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post Nov 11 2011, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 11 2011, 03:09 PM)
Another reason I can think why Arreit is downtrend maybe because it has fixed interest rate? So, if people are expecting BNM to lower the interest rate, this would makes Arreit earnings flat, while others might go up a bit. Anyway, it also means time for me to leverage some money to fund next year REIT purchase soon biggrin.gif
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This is negligible as a 0.25% won't make the cost of borrowing differ too much.

The main concern on reit is always tenants issue.

Atrium price plunged to 0.7x, when one of tenants lease expired and not manage to fill in straight away resulted DPU plunge significantly during the period (which afterwards manage to get back the tenant).

Axreit plunged to Rm1.00 because of global financial crisis which people fear refinancing may become more difficult as well as tenants may move out, or facing difficulty in business due to global recession.
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 11 2011, 03:05 PM)
er.. bro RobinLim, boh leh my HLeB nominee a/c didnt charge me for crediting dividends or pumping my $ back to my savings or current account of even another bank (eg. SCB, PB, MBB - not Hong Leong Bank).

Which security firm U using?
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Bro wongmunkeong
I'm using MBB nominee
got charged leh
I even called them to confirm
but very minimal only, RM2.50 per transaction for crediting the dividend

As for the withdrawal to savings/current account
sorry it's my mistake, there's no charge at all
I checked again it's for another transaction
just happened that that transaction was done whenever I withdraw from the trading account tongue.gif

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post Nov 11 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(robinlim @ Nov 11 2011, 03:30 PM)
Bro wongmunkeong
I'm using MBB nominee
got charged leh
I even called them to confirm
but very minimal only, RM2.50 per transaction for crediting the dividend

As for the withdrawal to savings/current account
sorry it's my mistake, there's no charge at all
I checked again it's for another transaction
just happened that that transaction was done whenever I withdraw from the trading account tongue.gif
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ah.. so.. MBB.. i was on that during my virgin stock online days. Those days they dont even give interest on $ sitting around in the transaction a/c + it's a b**** to move $ to/fro savings/transaction a/c. Thus, i lari to HLeB heheh. Kiamsiap kui lar i
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:34 PM

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I also use Hong Leong ebroking nominee b4 but now i use direct CDS coz of the $2.50 charge to bankin my dividend to bank a/c.
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 11 2011, 03:33 PM)
ah.. so.. MBB.. i was on that during my virgin stock online days. Those days they dont even give interest on $ sitting around in the transaction a/c + it's a b**** to move $ to/fro savings/transaction a/c. Thus, i lari to HLeB heheh. Kiamsiap kui lar i
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can we keep the topics to REIT related discussion? questions on CDS accounts should be directed to stock related topics.


Added on November 11, 2011, 3:59 pm
QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 11 2011, 02:42 PM)
Arreits DY stands at 9% now.
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we might not get 9% in the near future since the loss of major tenant, CIMB, means lower income for dividends.


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post Nov 11 2011, 04:02 PM

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hi guys, a very noob question here. How do I check the dividend payout of each of the REIT counter? is there any platform to do so or any website that keeps track of it?

I am thinking of diversifying my investment into dividend counters. Read the introduction on REIT - interesting.

Thanks for guidance.
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Nov 11 2011, 04:02 PM)
hi guys, a very noob question here. How do I check the dividend payout of each of the REIT counter? is there any platform to do so or any website that keeps track of it?

I am thinking of diversifying my investment into dividend counters. Read the introduction on REIT - interesting.

Thanks for guidance.
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Almost every reit got its own website now.
KLSE website also got full details of its financial report.

You may try this website as well.
http://mreit.reitdata.com/
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Nov 11 2011, 03:34 PM)
I also use Hong Leong ebroking nominee b4 but now i use direct CDS coz of the $2.50 charge to bankin my dividend to bank a/c.
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they (HLeB) charge? eek - how come the paper dividends/copies of chqs they sent me looks the same as the amount credited... i better go dig out the last 3 and re-look. Danke danke notworthy.gif


Added on November 11, 2011, 4:14 pm
QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 11 2011, 03:57 PM)
can we keep the topics to REIT related discussion? questions on CDS accounts should be directed to stock related topics.

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oops - just saw this. Apologies.
Yes sir, very good sir.

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post Nov 11 2011, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 11 2011, 04:12 PM)
Almost every reit got its own website now.
KLSE website also got full details of its financial report.

You may try this website as well.
http://mreit.reitdata.com/
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ARREIT good dividend counter?

My risk apetite is low. At this rate 60% of my savings is in PNB funds (AS1m, etc) and some in government bonds (sukuk) . Average yield is about 5%. I am the type of person that would prefer to buy something to hold for medium term (lazy to keep checking prices everyday, no time).

The rest of my savings in FD but the pitiful 3% return is just unbearable. I am thinking of diversifying.

Any good REIT counter to recommend?

I see ARREIT / Qcapita getting most of the good review. I think I will start with 20K buying ARREIT ok or not?

How about DIGi/ Maxis counter - dividend yield ok? sorry if digress - but I see AMWAY, DIGI, MAXIS all giving decent 5-6% DY.

thanks all

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Nov 11 2011, 04:27 PM)
ARREIT good dividend counter?

My risk apetite is low. At this rate 60% of my savings is in PNB funds (AS1m, etc) and some in government bonds (sukuk) . Average yield is about 5%.

The rest of my savings in FD but the pitiful 3% return is just unbearable.  I am thinking of diversifying.

Any good REIT counter to recommend?

I see ARREIT / Qcapita getting most of the good review. I think I will start with 20K buying ARREIT  ok or not?

How about DIGi/ Maxis counter - dividend yield ok?

thanks all
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Personally I prefer Qcap due to its properties portfolio.

Just personal preference, not meant which is better.

There is no problem to find a stock that yield more than 3-4%, there are some good stocks out there, just risk exposure that one willing to take or not.
It is hard to compare directly as risk wise is different.
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post Nov 11 2011, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 11 2011, 04:30 PM)
Personally I prefer Qcap due to its properties portfolio.

Just personal preference, not meant which is better.

There is no problem to find a stock that yield more than 3-4%, there are some good stocks out there, just risk exposure that one willing to take or not.
It is hard to compare directly as risk wise is different.
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Thanks.

What do I need to monitor once I bought the REIT? I mean, read analyst report on REIT, read Star Business ? I intend to hold REIT for at least 3-5 years term ?

How to watch out for REIT counter bad news? will they ever be reported in newspaper ?
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post Nov 11 2011, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Nov 11 2011, 04:37 PM)
Thanks.

What do I need to monitor once I bought the REIT? I mean, read analyst report on REIT, read Star Business ? I intend to hold REIT for at least 3-5 years term ?

How to watch out for REIT counter bad news? will they ever be reported in newspaper ?
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May keep latest info from here, once again.
http://mreit.reitdata.com/

Good luck new REIT investor. thumbup.gif


Added on November 11, 2011, 5:45 pmPavilion Real Estate Investment Trust, a Malaysian retail property trust, is marketing its initial public offering to institutions at 88 sen to 90 sen per unit, according to a note sent to investors.

The company expects a distribution yield of as much as 6.73 percent based on its 2012 earnings estimates, the note said. -- Bloomberg

Read more: Pavilion Reit to market IPO at 90 sen/unit http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM.../#ixzz1dO6CDJ5q

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post Nov 11 2011, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 11 2011, 10:55 AM)
ARREIT has been in the down trend for the past few months. does it indicate the future lower earnings from its property portfolios?
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 11 2011, 01:45 PM)
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heard the company lost his CIMB as tenant...

so guess that it will be in discount price? it still has a strong support at 0.85  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Nov 11 2011, 02:03 PM)
Yeap, it lost CIMB as tenant, but as its nearing is year low at 0.845, I'm hoping to grab some at 0.855 or less.
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 11 2011, 03:09 PM)
Another reason I can think why Arreit is downtrend maybe because it has fixed interest rate? So, if people are expecting BNM to lower the interest rate, this would makes Arreit earnings flat, while others might go up a bit. Anyway, it also means time for me to leverage some money to fund next year REIT purchase soon biggrin.gif
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if it does test it's 52 weeks low, it's time for me to buy some ...... for long terms divvy whistling.gif
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post Nov 12 2011, 03:42 AM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Nov 11 2011, 05:54 PM)
if it does test it's 52 weeks low, it's time for me to buy some ...... for long terms divvy  whistling.gif
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I think 52 weeks low thing is not suitable to be applied on Reits.
I think Reits more concern on (future) yield. So for the Arreit case, we need to first find out how much rental it could be deducted from CIMB's bye bye. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 12 2011, 03:42 AM)
I think 52 weeks low thing is not suitable to be applied on Reits.
I think Reits more concern on (future) yield. So for the Arreit case, we need to first find out how much rental it could be deducted from CIMB's bye bye.  hmm.gif
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It's only to see the DY la, if entry is lower, possibility of DY higher ma.. And I do believe they can recover new tenants quite fast, but perhaps the next quarter might be impacted la..
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 12 2011, 03:42 AM)
I think 52 weeks low thing is not suitable to be applied on Reits.
I think Reits more concern on (future) yield. So for the Arreit case, we need to first find out how much rental it could be deducted from CIMB's bye bye.  hmm.gif
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Arreits apparently made some mistakes to purchase some very low yield properties just not too long ago, now intends to sell out.

Don'T u think it is rather a poor decision of their management ?

Or rather it is purely due to some unforeseen circumstances.



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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 12 2011, 11:12 AM)
Arreits apparently made some mistakes to purchase some very low yield properties just not too long ago, now intends to sell out.

Don'T u think it is rather a poor decision of their management ?

Or rather it is purely due to some unforeseen circumstances.
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Maybe poor decision. If they manage higher amount of assets, then they can get more income for themselves as well...
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Nov 12 2011, 03:42 AM)
I think 52 weeks low thing is not suitable to be applied on Reits.
I think Reits more concern on (future) yield. So for the Arreit case, we need to first find out how much rental it could be deducted from CIMB's bye bye.  hmm.gif
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Arreit, base on rental income from CIMB the loss of rental is about RM 3.7million. Profit, how much affected?
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post Nov 12 2011, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 12 2011, 11:12 AM)
Arreits apparently made some mistakes to purchase some very low yield properties just not too long ago, now intends to sell out.

Don'T u think it is rather a poor decision of their management ?

Or rather it is purely due to some unforeseen circumstances.
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I can't understand about this bro.. blush.gif

Mind to share more?

From my understanding, if low yield property will generate high yield income.. guess it should be the advantage for them to hike up... Since the dividend yield is still around 8%.. if the price goes down.. how much it could go?


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post Nov 12 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 12 2011, 12:13 PM)
I can't understand about this bro..  blush.gif

Mind to share more?

From my understanding, if low yield property will generate high yield income.. guess it should be the advantage for them to hike up... Since the dividend yield is still around 8%.. if the price goes down.. how much it could go?
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Low yield properties means lower rental yield return from tenants of that properties with high leverage
I think that's what SKY taikor meant

I'm more concerned on the degree of impact on the income due to the loss of CIMB tenancy
If it's substantial and can't get back the tenancy in time
Income distribution will be affected
Hence resulting lower DY

I just bought ARREIT @ 0.865 btw due to price drop sweat.gif

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