but actuali i quite prefer NA engine lo..easy maintain and enjoy the satisfacation feel once upgrade one performance part every time

for auto cars got different type of mod...

wat modify?

previous have discuss to convert CPS, some say is not value for money!! too exp!!

me manaul!!

me me...

not sure... im not an auto enthusiast

This stuff is normal. I think is the air intake sound or smth.

No need workout la. Cheong also workout ma

NA the best la. BOT u need to always rev high only can enjoy the satisfaction. The time u enjoy the satisfaction + thinking of FC then = no satisfaction

won't hurt much if you make it a weekend car...

but then need to buy another car for daily use ...

Itu manual lah.. ppl talking bout auto here..

If u were to turbocharged ur car, u can actually maintain ur FC around the same region but increase hp.. But when u install high cam in ur car.. Straightaway say bye bye to ur FC... There is no such thing as good FC and high powered NA engine.. In NA engines u either choose low end torque or high end power.. In turbo charged cars u can use staged boost setup.. So u can have low end boost with VGT or BBT and extra boost when u reach the high end part.

The tech talk was about piston compression.. NA must use high comp to get high power.. Turbocharged must use low comp, or not engine will knock or blow.. With NA engine and high cam MUST use RON97 or higher.. Turbocharged can still use RON95..

GSR terbalik can.. But nowadays GSR and Mivec engines all around 10-15years old ady.. No point getting those engines.. The tech is too old and not efficient anymore..

huh? facing which way? what u mean?

But u get an old engine, unknown mileage, and lots of hidden 'goodies'... I personally favour getting a good car with a good base engine and mod it off from there.. Furthermore nowadays GSR and Mivec CK engines are getting more and more expensive ady.. in 2002 u can get a GSR terbalik 1.8 for only RM3k. Now the same engine with higher mileage is going for around 8-10k at least.. not including installation..

Nope no chance of better FC.. when u install high cam ur low end speed will have very high FC.. around 1.5-2L/100km higher..

True also.. Campro engines are long stroke.. meant for turbocharging more than NA.. Efficient NA engines with high horsepower are not long stroke engines.. For example K20A and F20C engines.. they have bigger bore than stroke ratio.. and they have high horsepower per litre >100bhp:1000cc.. Long stroke engines are suited for turbo application more like RB26DETT, GSR 1.8T etc. U can see that these engines are very durable as the longer stroke helps to clear more vacuum in the combustion chamber for a longer period, allowing the air and fuel to mix more evenly b4 combustion.. and there are alot more other stuffs as well..

BOT got anti-lag system now mah.. Nowadays continental car boost kicks in at around 1.8k-2k RPM.. Full boost by 3k RPM and the full boost of around 1bar can hold on till the end of the rev.. In msia all those kucing kucing modders pakai GSR 1.8T, Mivec CK kind of engines where got good and effecient? those are considered the 2nd generation of turbocharged engines only.. Nowadays turbo engines are at their 5th evolution process ady..

A turbo car driver should always respect an n/a car driver, and vice versa. Yes, turbo much more powerful, and there's more space for mods to gain horses. However, if an n/a is really souped up such as the VTEC engines, they can take on a turbo anytime

Dunno this got posted before o not

Never knew proton got so detail check on the manufactured cars until today ...
Strict Quality control

change my view even more towards proton , 'they have change'
well done

This post has been edited by wilsonjack228: Aug 16 2011, 05:56 PM

then no need mod lor...
good FC...

Hmmm.. Seems some really good QC they are doing there..

But this is for new car and only for Exora and Saga, Persona still doing the pre-inspection at SC , some time SC cincai check end up cases like Denion.

dont compare NA to turbo lor, u should compare NA to NA.... same range...

V22 tonight?



This post has been edited by vccy: Aug 16 2011, 07:49 PM

depends how fast u can spam lor...

Terbalik as in upside down lah.. The Mitsubishi word terbalik facing the windscreen instead of facing the front of the car..

Aiya turbo no turbo.. Dun care d lah.. I also cannot mod the PE anymore..

Not no respect lo.. If u know his friend U'll also be sien.. Everytime pijak NA cars wan.. Like turbo is the best.. I last time also use turbo car lah.. And I know the pros n cons of both.. But then I never underestimate NA while I'm using turbo, or underestimate turbo when I'm using manual..

nice. turbo is good due to efficiency i think. xenon actually recommend auto to boost bcoz campro auto is really lag in low torque. i also think no point if a new car go and get an old engine transpant. if u say u get a total loss evo 10 engine(assuming engine not hurt during accident) to transplant then i can accept. bcoz is new engine. can last longer.

when u want to start ur Xenon project?