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TSxandras
post Aug 16 2011, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:04 PM)
doh.gif  brickfield is not for new comer it was the territory of ah gua,..... then end up your customer are mostly ah gua  laugh.gif
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U're a regular customer there ah? drool.gif Know the area so well geh? brows.gif Rupa-rupanya ngeo88 is an ah gua lover..


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:10 pm
QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 16 2011, 02:09 PM)
just spam!!
rclxub.gif he go satisfy ah gua??
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No wor. I simply pajak say brickfields sell backside nia. rclxub.gif He's the 1 started with all the ah gua stuffs.

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 16 2011, 02:10 PM
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 16 2011, 10:23 AM)
According to him.. Yes  drool.gif
Yup. 1.6L CPS with turbo  brows.gif
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our PE can engage proton to install turbo for it? hehe...


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:12 pm
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Aug 16 2011, 11:20 AM)
can..alot of campro engine BOT at xenonsport ady..quite reliable..can get around 170whp for stage 1 without change piston and block..stage 2 not suit for auto,bcoz too high horsepower..around can get 220-240whp for stage 2..
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when u want to get ur PE done with the project Xenon?

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post Aug 16 2011, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 16 2011, 01:55 PM)
go buy black pepper, mushroom, herb, tomyam, kaya, peanut butter sauce la...
pour on the sausage n squeeze on abalone!! sure yummi!!  whistling.gif


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This chick endup getting brest cancer cooking rubber in the hot pot of tea, rubber will release toxic that cause canser ... laugh.gif
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 01:45 PM)
Sell backside at Brickfields brows.gif
My experience with that shop no good lah. They simply plonk in the extractor, stuffs also cincai install wan. Price reasonable lah, but other than that.. I don't really recommend any PE users to go there.
Alloy-cast engine block lah.. The boost can crack the engine block wan leh.. Scary hor? brows.gif

I still wonder when Proton gonna come out with a diesel engine.. The only diesel there was last time was the Wira diesel.. If Exora come out diesel I'm sure many ppl will buy.. cos the torque is important for MPVs/SUVs..
Yea.. Can memang can.. But u must understand the manufacturer's point of view. They want their engines to last, so when they wanna turbocharge a car they rather rebuild the engine using different, more sturdy materials to withstand the pressure.. For modders like xenonsport etc etc, they can make ur engine reliable also if u want to, but by replacing the pistons etc etc, the cost will go up. Then demand will decrease. Then they cannot make profit.

I think turbo still dont suit stock auto gearbox no matter what stage it is. There is a limit amount of torque that our stock gearbox can take, and by pushing closer to the limit u're actually decreasing ur gearbox's lifespan.

Unless of course, u're rich and money isn't an issue, u could've settled for a better stock turbo-ed car (like the Peugeot 308 Turbo, Golf TSI, Polo) but u rather splurge the money on BoT-ing a PE because u wanna prove to the world that a turbo PE can tapau McLaren MP4-12C. There are actually many ppl like that. I just don't see the point why they do that (drop a 1.8 GSR engine into a Wira when they could've afford an Evo).
No idea, but since u're already at Subang Jaya, why don't just go straight to CoSE to claim?
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i agreed with u. actually modding NA can get around 150hp for our pe too...
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:13 PM)
This chick endup getting brest cancer cooking rubber in the hot pot of tea, rubber will release toxic that cause canser ... laugh.gif
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shakehead.gif Wanna go pangsai... then workout!! flex.gif Tonite cheonging~! brows.gif


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:17 pm
QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:14 PM)
i agreed with u. actually modding NA can get around 150hp for our pe too...
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Some people don't see it that way mah. They wonder why must they spend the same amount of money on NA when they can get more by going turbo. Personal preference lah, some ppl know how to appreciate NA, some turbo. Me played both, NA still the best. M3 also NA ma whistling.gif

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post Aug 16 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:09 PM)
U're a regular customer there ah? drool.gif Know the area so well geh? brows.gif Rupa-rupanya ngeo88 is an ah gua lover..


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:10 pm
No wor. I simply pajak say brickfields sell backside nia. rclxub.gif He's the 1 started with all the ah gua stuffs.
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You know the place to sell backside ma not me lah,backside is the only thing can ah gua sell lah, ....


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:23 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:15 PM)
shakehead.gif Wanna go pangsai... then workout!! flex.gif Tonite cheonging~! brows.gif

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blink.gif ....what pangsai (shitting)? shitting and cheoging related kah ?

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post Aug 16 2011, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:19 PM)
You know the place to sell backside ma not me lah,backside is the only thing can ah gua sell lah, ....


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:23 pm
blink.gif  ....what pangsai (shitting)? shitting and cheoging related kah  ?
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Ya meh? I didn't know wor. Girls cannot sell backside? Gays cannot sell backside? brows.gif

No nid to clear bowels wan ka u? Later cheonging halfway kap si then how? blink.gif 2 girls 1 cup? brows.gif
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:25 PM)
Ya meh? I didn't know wor. Girls cannot sell backside? Gays cannot sell backside? brows.gif

No nid to clear bowels wan ka u? Later cheonging halfway kap si then how? blink.gif 2 girls 1 cup? brows.gif
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Girls can sell back side sure can also sell front lah ......commontly it call prostitue liao, i never heard there are gays selling backside lor...
normally when we exercise we won' t feel wanna pangsai wan, unless stomach got problem.
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 16 2011, 07:59 AM)
abalon lar...  drool.gif


Added on August 16, 2011, 8:00 am

castrol got 5-30?
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Got.. the FS Magnatec A5.. But very difficult to get in Malaysia.

QUOTE(rain55 @ Aug 16 2011, 08:58 AM)
all bro..my pe wil make sounds like ffeeeee....when i am above 80kmh..like electric/airplane sounds..the more i accelerate the more louder,  but it was not that much noise because i only found out when i driving on less car highway with all a/c , fan, and radio off then can hear the noise more easy. What the problem? Gearbox? the sounds is weak but still u can hear
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I used to have the sound.. But now disappear ady.. Dunno y.. But no harm done to ur car.. So nothing to worry about..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 16 2011, 09:23 AM)
I think you're getting confuse that 0W and 5W cold viscosity means both will start cold at their respective sub-zero temperature. What the number indicates is 0W can go over -35C while 5W can go up to 30C pour point. Both will remain fluid for easier engine start at subzero temperature.

However our temperature practically never go below 20C, so 0W to 20W have practically same cold start performance at the temperature.

What you have to watch out is extending the mileage. The bigger the difference in hot and cold viscosity, the more addictives and viscosity improver (VI) are used. Ie 0W40 had way more addictives and VI vs 15W40. Addictives and VI breaks down way faster than the oil itself. So when addictives wears out, the oil will not remain in grade meaning, if the base stock is actually a 30 weighted oil and VI is used to increase / decrease viscosity, losing addictives will mean the oil are unable to lower it viscosity to needed cold start or thicken them to 40 weight. It will start to stay at weight 30 only and thats not good for the engine.

True FS base VI without addictives is very high already. So even when losing some addictives, it will still remain in grade near its natural wide VI range rather than the artificial VI addictives. FS natural VI does not break down fast vs addictive VI that breaks down very easily. Our group 3+ VS has higher natural VI than mineral and semi thus its VII breaks down slower than mineral and semi. Thats why some try to extend the mileage. Unfortunately its still not true FS thus the addictives and VI will still breaks down as same rate as mineral/semi. Just that these FS will lessen damage to engine vs mineral/semi at same mileage. Still damage will be done if extend too long thus recommended change at 5K before any chances of VI truly wearing off.
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LOL.. Since u posted a long post.. haha..

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Aug 16 2011, 09:52 AM)
is it...then avoid this lu.... tongue.gif
coz i saw a lot ppl go there so just see any member here done their mod at his shop.
Oil Man rclxub.gif  may me think about Oil Man in JAV
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This kweng is actually more like a middleman.. He arranges the specs and exhaust components.. Then u go install at his panel workshops like that..

QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 16 2011, 10:24 AM)
Try CC5  smile.gif


Added on August 16, 2011, 10:26 am

I asked this to the technician as well..
He said our car not suit to install turbo because something in engine using alloy..
Alloy can't stand the pressure..
While new engine are using metal..
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Which part of our engine using alloy ah??
Then i think the new engine need to use Magnacrap ady..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:14 PM)
i agreed with u. actually modding NA can get around 150hp for our pe too...
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But u want to get 150hp on our NA Campro u need around 15-20k.. Turbocharge it only cost 5-8k..
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:36 PM

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totally off-topic liao this tered...
from brickfields to ah gua to sell backside to rubber to flavour to pang sai doh.gif
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:34 PM)
Girls can sell back side sure can also sell front lah ......commontly it call prostitue liao, i never heard there are gays selling backside lor...
normally when we exercise we won' t feel wanna pangsai wan, unless stomach got problem.
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better do it before nature calls u at the wrong time mah..brows.gif

QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 16 2011, 02:35 PM)
Got.. the FS Magnatec A5.. But very difficult to get in Malaysia.
I used to have the sound.. But now disappear ady.. Dunno y.. But no harm done to ur car.. So nothing to worry about..
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LOL.. Since u posted a long post.. haha..
This kweng is actually more like a middleman.. He arranges the specs and exhaust components.. Then u go install at his panel workshops like that..
Which part of our engine using alloy ah??
Then i think the new engine need to use Magnacrap ady..
But u want to get 150hp on our NA Campro u need around 15-20k.. Turbocharge it only cost 5-8k..
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Exaggerating la u 150 hp NA need 15-20k.. sweat.gif

Wan me to calculate for u? sweat.gif

This post has been edited by xandras: Aug 16 2011, 02:37 PM
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(pupumaru @ Aug 16 2011, 02:36 PM)
totally off-topic liao this tered...
from brickfields to ah gua to sell backside to rubber to flavour to pang sai doh.gif
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Want to quickly start a new tered mah..

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:36 PM)
Exaggerating la u 150 hp NA need 15-20k.. sweat.gif

Wan me to calculate for u? sweat.gif
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need lah.. U calculate and show me first..
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post Aug 16 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 16 2011, 02:37 PM)
Want to quickly start a new tered mah..
need lah.. U calculate and show me first..
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Works 1 PAIR (2x camshaft) + ACP - RM 2.7k.
Standalone ECU (no need so expensive lah, take the mid range wan can d (Haltech) ) - ~RM 3k.
P&P - ~RM 1k.
Works Air filter - RM 150.
Spark plugs - RM 150.
LCP - RM 650.

What else? Exhaust system mau kira? If kira then for BoT have to kira also cos BoT requires a different exhaust setup.


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:49 pmthrottle body, high compression pistons all takmau kira la.. Cos the RM7-8k that xenon offered for BoT doesn't include all these also..

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:46 PM)
Works 1 PAIR (2x camshaft) + ACP - RM 2.7k.
Standalone ECU (no need so expensive lah, take the mid range wan can d (Haltech) ) - ~RM 3k.
P&P - ~RM 1k.
Works Air filter - RM 150.
Spark plugs - RM 150.
LCP - RM 650.

What else? Exhaust system mau kira? If kira then for BoT have to kira also cos BoT requires a different exhaust setup.
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For NA, extras u need,
bigger injectors RM450
fuel rail RM500-1k
individual throttle body 4x RM380
hi-comp pistons RM3500 (ROSS pistons)
ECU u need HKS F-Con V pro.. If not the low end torque and hp u cant maximise it.. which is the main advantage of NA.
New manifolds...

for 150whp lah.. if with the high cam like that can get around 135bhp only. .
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QUOTE(pupumaru @ Aug 16 2011, 02:36 PM)
totally off-topic liao this tered...
from brickfields to ah gua to sell backside to rubber to flavour to pang sai doh.gif
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wanna spam and start new thred liao


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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:46 PM)
Works 1 PAIR (2x camshaft) + ACP - RM 2.7k.
Standalone ECU (no need so expensive lah, take the mid range wan can d (Haltech) ) - ~RM 3k.
P&P - ~RM 1k.
Works Air filter - RM 150.
Spark plugs - RM 150.
LCP - RM 650.

What else? Exhaust system mau kira? If kira then for BoT have to kira also cos BoT requires a different exhaust setup.


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:49 pmthrottle body, high compression pistons all takmau kira la.. Cos the RM7-8k that xenon offered for BoT doesn't include all these also..
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 16 2011, 02:54 PM)
For NA, extras u need,
bigger injectors RM450
fuel rail RM500-1k
individual throttle body 4x RM380
hi-comp pistons RM3500 (ROSS pistons)
ECU u need HKS F-Con V pro.. If not the low end torque and hp u cant maximise it.. which is the main advantage of NA.
New manifolds...

for 150whp lah.. if with the high cam like that can get around 135bhp only.
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So Xan was the cost for BOT and Zeng was cost for NA right? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 16 2011, 02:54 PM)
For NA, extras u need,
bigger injectors RM450
fuel rail RM500-1k
individual throttle body 4x RM380
hi-comp pistons RM3500 (ROSS pistons)
ECU u need HKS F-Con V pro.. If not the low end torque and hp u cant maximise it.. which is the main advantage of NA.
New manifolds...

for 150whp lah.. if with the high cam like that can get around 135bhp only. .
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If like that then the BoT kit also have to kira the forged pistons n all also lah.. Manifolds no nid new lah.. Hotbits boleh lah.. brows.gif


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QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Aug 16 2011, 02:55 PM)
wanna spam and start new thred liao


Added on August 16, 2011, 3:00 pm
So Xan was the cost for BOT and Zeng was cost for NA right? hmm.gif
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The BOT kit AFAIK doesn't include many parts that would make the engine last. They use back many stock parts, and I suppose the most worthy of the kit is the turbine & the ECU. For turbo u wanna go 170 WHP, can, no problem, but how high u wanna boost? Till ur engine block crack?

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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 03:01 PM)
If like that then the BoT kit also have to kira the forged pistons n all also lah.. Manifolds no nid new lah.. Hotbits boleh lah.. brows.gif


Added on August 16, 2011, 3:08 pm
The BOT kit AFAIK doesn't include many parts that would make the engine last. They use back many stock parts, and I suppose the most worthy of the kit is the turbine & the ECU. For turbo u wanna go 170 WHP, can, no problem, but how high u wanna boost? Till ur engine block crack?
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BUt the BOT kit can get 150whp without changing pistons lah.. NA cannot.. Stock compression only 10.0:1, considered semi low ady..
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 16 2011, 03:12 PM)
BUt the BOT kit can get 150whp without changing pistons lah.. NA cannot.. Stock compression only 10.0:1, considered semi low ady..
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Bulehhh...Manual Persona with hi cam, ACP, LCP, full exhaust & carbon airbox already making 138 WHP.. why cannot? brows.gif
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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 02:46 PM)
Works 1 PAIR (2x camshaft) + ACP - RM 2.7k.
Standalone ECU (no need so expensive lah, take the mid range wan can d (Haltech) ) - ~RM 3k.
P&P - ~RM 1k.
Works Air filter - RM 150.
Spark plugs - RM 150.
LCP - RM 650.

What else? Exhaust system mau kira? If kira then for BoT have to kira also cos BoT requires a different exhaust setup.


Added on August 16, 2011, 2:49 pmthrottle body, high compression pistons all takmau kira la.. Cos the RM7-8k that xenon offered for BoT doesn't include all these also..
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like ur mod is around 7-8k without exhaust wow....but FC sure damn makan!!


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QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 03:01 PM)
If like that then the BoT kit also have to kira the forged pistons n all also lah.. Manifolds no nid new lah.. Hotbits boleh lah.. brows.gif


Added on August 16, 2011, 3:08 pm
The BOT kit AFAIK doesn't include many parts that would make the engine last. They use back many stock parts, and I suppose the most worthy of the kit is the turbine & the ECU. For turbo u wanna go 170 WHP, can, no problem, but how high u wanna boost? Till ur engine block crack?
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Aug 16 2011, 03:12 PM)
BUt the BOT kit can get 150whp without changing pistons lah.. NA cannot.. Stock compression only 10.0:1, considered semi low ady..
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too technical talk la.... rclxub.gif cannot understand!!

QUOTE(xandras @ Aug 16 2011, 03:16 PM)
Bulehhh...Manual Persona with hi cam, ACP, LCP, full exhaust & carbon airbox already making 138 WHP.. why cannot? brows.gif
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hmm.gif how much?

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post Aug 16 2011, 03:23 PM

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guys..since your discussing about BOT and mod..what kind of engine can be fitted into a persona? mivec or gsr can?

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