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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink, I&P new super link July 2011

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TSAng Ang
post Oct 24 2011, 03:22 PM

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M2K2land, do u have Pentas 1 Nilai?
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post Oct 24 2011, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Oct 24 2011, 03:22 PM)
M2K2land, do u have Pentas 1 Nilai?
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Cad Pembangunan Perumahan Teres 2T Berjumlah 90U Dlm Fasa A2-03a & Sebuah Pencawang Elektrik Di Jalan Tun Mamat 35/92 Serta Empat Buah Wakaf Di Kawasan Rekreasi, Dua Unit Gelanggang Pelbagai Guna Serta Tiga Set Peralatan Permainan Kanak-kanak, Alam Impian, Seksyen 35, Shah Alam

Tarikh Anugerah
07-06-2011

Nilai (RM)
RM 38,610,000.00

http://www.cidb.gov.my/directory/local_con...p?cont_id=48315

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post Oct 24 2011, 04:00 PM

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Pentas 1 build cost slightly cost more may be due to TNB substation and playgnd. Pentas 2 corner lot bigger build up as well ... perhaps diff contractor and design charge slightly difference.
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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Oct 24 2011, 04:00 PM)
Pentas 1 build cost slightly cost more may be due to TNB substation and playgnd. Pentas 2 corner lot bigger build up as well ... perhaps diff contractor and design charge slightly difference.
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Yeah Ang2,

1) 90U Dlm Fasa A2-03a
2) Sebuah Pencawang Elektrik
3) Empat Buah Wakaf Di Kawasan Rekreasi
4) Dua Unit Gelanggang Pelbagai Guna
5) Tiga Set Peralatan Permainan Kanak-kanak

It disburse to all related build smile.gif Dont worry everything will be good notworthy.gif

I was visiting last Saturday and Pentas 1 already putting up piling.
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post Oct 24 2011, 04:05 PM

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u guys think in 1-2 yrs time the price for these units will go up?
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QUOTE(asciii @ Oct 24 2011, 04:05 PM)
u guys think in 1-2 yrs time the price for these units will go up?
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This question need to ask jet kor, UFO or LionKing or others sifu to answer you whistling.gif but from previous development like Canting, Canting2, Ukiran etc, there are more than 80% appreciate value.
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post Oct 24 2011, 04:13 PM

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I did went thru the build cost for Makassar in the link provided. Noticed that previous 22x80 canting phase cost much lesser than pentas now. Believe the build cost had increase in recent years. All properties expected ocntinue to increase.
It will be good to hear from other sifu comment. Btw thx M2K2 bro for providing the info requested.
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Oct 24 2011, 04:10 PM)
This question need to ask jet kor, UFO or LionKing or others sifu to answer you  whistling.gif but from previous development like Canting, Canting2, Ukiran etc, there are more than 80% appreciate value.
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noted..sifu's..can further comment??
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post Oct 24 2011, 07:09 PM

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400k to build 25x85 double storey house. Is it cheap or expensive? Or they charge more coz they need to pay undertable to get the project.

As for the fencing, i think we can gather all the owner to sign petition to get inp built it for free, chances will be higher, just that the effort to gather all the signature will be difficult.


Added on October 24, 2011, 7:15 pm
QUOTE(asciii @ Oct 24 2011, 04:05 PM)
u guys think in 1-2 yrs time the price for these units will go up?
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You can see all the buyer look so bullish here about this property. So if you ask this q here, all taiko will tell you sure untung one, i am also thinking this is one of the best buy project at the moment.

If you ask this in Setia Alam thread, i am sure you will get different answer. At least one guy will ask to get a place call home in SA, but smaller unit and expensive. AI very hulu got nothing like buying a house in kampung.

This post has been edited by nkhong: Oct 24 2011, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 24 2011, 07:09 PM)
400k to build 25x85 double storey house. Is it cheap or expensive? Or they charge more coz they need to pay undertable to get the project.

As for the fencing, i think we can gather all the owner to sign petition to get inp built it for free, chances will be higher, just that the effort to gather all the signature will be difficult.


Added on October 24, 2011, 7:15 pm

You can see all the buyer look so bullish here about this property. So if you ask this q here, all taiko will tell you sure untung one, i am also thinking this is one of the best buy project at the moment.

If you ask this in Setia Alam thread, i am sure you will get different answer. At least one guy will ask to get a place call home in SA, but smaller unit and expensive. AI very hulu got nothing like buying a house in kampung.
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Need a active taiko to gather all the signature... Pentas 1 (90U) + Pentas 2 (101U)

Interm of psf... Pentas 2 (A2 Type) RM761,888/3088sf = 246.7 psf

Lets say If the psf like Ukiran from Iproperty already RM300-RM330psf
<<Ukiran>>

Average if psf RM280 (I am sure it wont be so low, for next 5 years)
if RM280 x 3088sf = RM864640
if RM300 x 3088sf = RM926400

Depend on how you think, ulu or not ulu... smile.gif who know right in 3-5 years time?

This post has been edited by M2K2Land: Oct 24 2011, 07:55 PM
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post Oct 24 2011, 08:08 PM

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Look like I need to put into a simple and direct facts:

1. Yes, the construction cost is RM400,000/unit or RM129/sqft (calculate based on built up of 3,100sqft). We categorised construction cost of RM129/sqft is upper-standard for terrace house. (anyhow, the best indication if we got the total built up)

2. One step ahead, which mostly people won't see this figures.
i) Consultant cost = 40 mil x 10% = 4Mil or RM40,000/unit
ii) Common infra cost, ie: park, hardscape, softscape, main water reticulation, sewerage, TNB, telekon, say: RM30,000/unit
iii) Land premium, say RM20/sqft = 3,100 x 20 = RM62,000.00
iv) Staff cost, promotion, SMS, marketing, etc, = say, RM2,000.00
TOTAL : RM534,000.00 /unit

3. To tender I&P job, you need to be competative. Procedure of tender for I&P:
i) Tenderers to submit the intial and only tender submisson
ii) There is no revision of tender
iii) Tender clarification/negotiation of tender price
iv) award of tender
As such, there is no way to pay under table to take the job.

4. The commodities, ie: steel, brickwork, wood, copper, OPC, etc main construction materials will increase from time to time. Especially wood as big amount is required in Japan. ie: copper can increase price of 100% last year.

5. Workers. Last time, a skilled bricklayer is RM80/day, now is RM100/day. Due to inflation + shortage of workers, the cost will getting higher and higher.

6. In my opinion, I will foresee an appreciation of min 20% two years from now.

This post has been edited by Lionking1900: Oct 24 2011, 08:24 PM
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post Oct 24 2011, 10:13 PM

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Hi Lionking,

Are you in construction line? U mcm expert le. notworthy.gif
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post Oct 24 2011, 10:29 PM

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1. IMO, the alternative cost will be around 650k if i were to buy a land and build on my own. Land cost for 2150sf (25'x85') @80psf would easily cost > 180k.

2. In my humble view, the most effective way to build the perimeter fencing is before VP and not leave it to the residents association after the handover. The fencing cost is relatively small(vs the selling price) to InP in achieving higher brand value for AI when there is still huge GDV to be realized/developed in longer term. To make this happen, the best is each Pentas owner to write in the request individually to InP. Appreciate anyone could provide the right email address of InP.

3. future cap value upon handover in 2yrs' time, my personal take is 300psf-350psf. Why? this pricing range is prevalent in TODAY's many new landed or highrise props in Shah Alam
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post Oct 24 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Oct 24 2011, 08:08 PM)
Look like I need to put into a simple and direct facts:

1. Yes, the construction cost is RM400,000/unit or RM129/sqft (calculate based on built up of 3,100sqft). We categorised construction cost of RM129/sqft is upper-standard for terrace house. (anyhow, the best indication if we got the total built up)

2. One step ahead, which mostly people won't see this figures.
    i) Consultant cost = 40 mil x 10% = 4Mil or RM40,000/unit
    ii) Common infra cost, ie: park, hardscape, softscape, main water reticulation, sewerage, TNB, telekon, say: RM30,000/unit
    iii) Land premium, say RM20/sqft = 3,100 x 20 = RM62,000.00
    iv) Staff cost, promotion, SMS, marketing, etc, = say, RM2,000.00
TOTAL : RM534,000.00 /unit

3. To tender I&P job, you need to be competative. Procedure of tender for I&P:
    i) Tenderers to submit the intial and only tender submisson
    ii) There is no revision of tender
    iii) Tender clarification/negotiation of tender price
    iv) award of tender
As such, there is no way to pay under table to take the job.

4. The commodities, ie: steel, brickwork, wood, copper, OPC, etc main construction materials will increase from time to time. Especially wood as big amount is required in Japan. ie: copper can increase price of 100% last year.

5. Workers. Last time, a skilled bricklayer is RM80/day, now is RM100/day. Due to inflation + shortage of workers, the cost will getting higher and higher.

6. In my opinion, I will foresee an appreciation of min 20% two years from now.
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post Oct 24 2011, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Oct 24 2011, 10:29 PM)
1. IMO, the alternative cost will be around 650k if i were to buy a land and build on my own. Land cost for 2150sf (25'x85') @80psf would easily cost > 180k.

2. In my humble view, the most effective way to build the perimeter fencing is before VP and not leave it to the residents association after the handover. The fencing cost is relatively small(vs the selling price) to InP in achieving higher brand value for AI when there is still huge GDV to be realized/developed in longer term. To make this happen, the best is each Pentas owner to write in the request individually to InP. Appreciate anyone could provide the right email address of InP.

3. future cap value upon handover in 2yrs' time, my personal take is 300psf-350psf. Why? this pricing range is prevalent in TODAY's many new landed or highrise props in Shah Alam
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If can ... I don't want chain link. Look very cheap.

I still prefer galvanised fencing, look more classy. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif


Added on October 24, 2011, 10:51 pm
QUOTE(nkhong @ Oct 24 2011, 10:13 PM)
Hi Lionking,

Are you in construction line? U mcm expert le.  notworthy.gif
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I'm in construction line, but still a freshie.....
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post Oct 24 2011, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Oct 24 2011, 10:50 PM)
If can ... I don't want chain link. Look very cheap.

I still prefer galvanised fencing, look more classy.  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
galvanised fencing only possible if InP were to build it. They have to weigh the cost vs benefits. In my view, the benefits of proper fencing far exceeds the cost as it will enhance the AI brand.

If this leave it to RA to contribute and build after VP, i am sceptical of the doability.....i hope i am wrong.
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http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale

Wow! Ukiran now asking for RM 330 / sqft and it's still under construction!!!!

Based on this quote, just imagine now our Pentas is currently value at RM 1 Mil!!!!


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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Oct 25 2011, 01:46 PM)
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...k_House_ForSale

Wow! Ukiran now asking for RM 330 / sqft and it's still under construction!!!!

Based on this quote, just imagine now our Pentas is currently value at RM 1 Mil!!!!
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Alrite....

my unit is 3,088 sqft, facing the lake, say RM340/sqft

3,088 x 340 = RM1,049,920 ???!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Alright ~!!!! Siapa mahu beli??? Gua mau jual~~~
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your asking price is not far from dream ... will get to there ..
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Oct 25 2011, 03:53 PM)
Alrite....

my unit is 3,088 sqft, facing the lake, say RM340/sqft

3,088 x 340 = RM1,049,920 ???!!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Alright ~!!!! Siapa mahu beli??? Gua mau jual~~~
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Then how much Pentas 1 worth?

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