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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink, I&P new super link July 2011

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post Mar 4 2012, 11:09 AM

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Taikor ufo,

I think the infor about length of house is definately wrong, 16660 and 18110 mm is shorter than pentas 1 18285 mm. Pentas 2 is 17900 but they can get bigger bu than pentas 1, maybe due to pentas 1 got void area at first floor family area. But length 16660mm can get Bu 3273 and 18110 can get 3499? I think cannot, either inp printed the length wrongly or they calculated the bu wrongly.
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post Mar 4 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Mar 4 2012, 11:09 AM)
Taikor ufo,

I think the infor about length of house is definately wrong, 16660 and 18110 mm is shorter than pentas 1 18285 mm. Pentas 2 is 17900 but they can get bigger bu than pentas 1, maybe due to pentas 1 got void area at first floor family area. But length 16660mm can get Bu 3273 and 18110 can get 3499? I think cannot, either inp printed the length wrongly or they calculated the bu wrongly.
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The measurement is correct, I am 99.99% sure the calculation of the built up is wrong.
Why? The both show models hv 5 feet reserved work area at the back
TSAng Ang
post Mar 4 2012, 07:56 PM

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I agree the b/u is 100% wrong for 25x85. With 3499sqft for 2 storey, each floor is 1750sqft or 70ft length. This left 15 ft for front and back which is not possible. The only possible is I&P this time include all carporch and back yard area into it Gross b/u calculation. If based on previous Pentas calculation, it need to deduct ~200swft min for each type of Pentas 3 declare b/u by I&P.
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post Mar 7 2012, 10:21 AM

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Just received the first notification from I&P to my bank, asking for 10% for Pentas 2....
TSAng Ang
post Mar 7 2012, 03:01 PM

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Pentas 1 2nd progressive 15% received. Building structure should be finished by now.
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Mar 7 2012, 10:21 AM)
Just received the first notification from I&P to my bank, asking for 10% for Pentas 2....
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Same here just received the letter... but never mention the amount just 10%


QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 7 2012, 03:01 PM)
Pentas 1 2nd progressive 15% received. Building structure should be finished by now.
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ooo... then very fast can VP liao, so the DIBS start from the 1st day of disbursement or S&P date?

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TSAng Ang
post Mar 7 2012, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Mar 7 2012, 03:57 PM)
Same here just received the letter... but never mention the amount just 10%
ooo... then very fast can VP liao, so the DIBS start from the 1st day of disbursement or S&P date?
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1st day of dispursement. I think most Pentas 1 will have to paid for 2012 interest. Starting from 2013 I&P absorbed the interest charge.
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post Mar 7 2012, 10:12 PM

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as at Monday, Pentas2 still got 27 unsold units due to loan rejections for the late buyers that were affected by the new ruling. Pentas3, at higher price, will be susah sikit to move in the coming Apr launch.

viewing the slowing sales, heard Pentas2 showhouse will be built soon and I&P mgt may build the perimeter fencing for Pentas. Suggest we continue to put pressure on I&P on the fencing.
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post Mar 7 2012, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(jet2020 @ Mar 7 2012, 10:12 PM)
as at Monday, Pentas2 still got 27 unsold units due to loan rejections for the late buyers that were affected by the new ruling. Pentas3, at higher price, will be susah sikit to move in the coming Apr launch.

viewing the slowing sales, heard Pentas2 showhouse will be built soon and I&P mgt may build the perimeter fencing for Pentas. Suggest we continue to put pressure on I&P on the fencing.
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101 - 27 = 74 units left unsold

Look like not moving at all since last year.

I agree with jet2020 the pentas 3 will have problem to move.
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post Mar 7 2012, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Mar 7 2012, 10:25 PM)
101 - 27 = 74 units left unsold

Look like not moving at all since last year.

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Lion kor, it's 27units left unsold and not 74.
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iewing the slowing sales, heard Pentas2 showhouse will be built soon and I&P mgt may build the perimeter fencing for Pentas. Suggest we continue to put pressure on I&P on the fencing.
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Most developers now all have fencing with this pricing. Hope the I&P can use this for selling point to boost up their sale.


Added on March 7, 2012, 10:33 pm
QUOTE(jet2020 @ Mar 7 2012, 10:31 PM)
Lion kor, it's 27units left unsold and not 74.
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Heard Zircone almost sold off now in less than a month launching.

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 7 2012, 10:32 PM)
Most developers now all have fencing with this pricing. Hope the I&P can use this for selling point to boost up their sale.
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hope the recent slow sales is a wake up call to the bosses who are sleeping on their jobs.....heard they are listening and considering now


Added on March 7, 2012, 10:37 pm
QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 7 2012, 10:32 PM)
Heard Zircone almost sold off now in less than a month launching.
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don;t underestimate the recent BNM ruling on loan application.....those who booked Zircone may drop off later if they unable to secure loans.

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post Mar 7 2012, 10:44 PM

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don;t underestimate the recent BNM ruling on loan application.....those who booked Zircone may drop off later if they unable to secure loans.
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You are correct, heard lot of loan being rejected this year. I am also surprise with a surau seated in the compound, the booking figure is still very +ve. Must be the fencing and properly guarded.
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So Parameter fencing + Show house will attract more buyer? Ermmm... Then I support this... anything need my contribution do let me know smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 09:51 AM

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for the past 1.5 years, it is very obvious that AI TTDI sales is moving faster than AI I&P despite the fact that AI I&P has better accessibility, location (within AI), bigger lake, more establishments, bigger house, slightly better built quality, slightly better overall quality (e.g. the car porch material and the common walkway).... in fact the price also slightly favorable towards I&P.

Design wise, it is very subjective.......Landscape is also rather subjective to make a big difference at this point of time.

So, it is left with one single biggest thing (apart from the marketing which is also very pathethic, a 13 yo boy can do a better web page design e.g, also even i registred a couple of time, there is no emial or call or sms to me for new launch.) :Security (G&G ) ...


This is a typical failure in understanding what is required or what is on top of the mine of buyer.


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post Mar 8 2012, 10:03 AM

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actually, for I&P why not just try 1-2 phase, put perimeter fencing as selling point, see the units can move or not?

thing is they dun even wana try man, reflect the mentality of the management

1. refuse to change, facade also lazy to do diff one
2. complacent
3. ignorant
4. lazy
5. tak apa atttitude, u mau u beli, u tak mau, belah....

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post Mar 8 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(yoki @ Mar 8 2012, 10:03 AM)
actually, for I&P why not just try 1-2 phase, put perimeter fencing as selling point, see the units can move or not?

thing is they dun even wana try man, reflect the mentality of the management

1. refuse to change, facade also lazy to do diff one
2. complacent
3. ignorant
4. lazy
5. tak ape, u mau u beli, u tak mau, belah....
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I must raise a concern here before all the above is materialised.

1. Alam Impian is under jurisdiction of MBSA (Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam). Some of the council, ie: MPKJ (Majlis Perbandaraan Kajang) DO NOT allow gated concept. Likewise, I have not visited MBSA for years and not sure what is their latest guideline for this.

2. Let say MBSA do not allow the developer to have gated and guarded. But you see some others development has such G&G, my personal view :-
a) The developer is prepare NOT to handover the Road and Drainage, Or
b) The developer obtain a special approval (which I don't think have any chance), Or
c) The developer obtain more than 70% to have G&G and appeal to MBSA

In most time, developer will pick option A to go ahead with GG if the local council is not in favour of G&G concept.
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Mar 8 2012, 10:10 AM)
I must raise a concern here before all the above is materialised.

1. Alam Impian is under jurisdiction of MBSA (Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam). Some of the council, ie: MPKJ (Majlis Perbandaraan Kajang) DO NOT allow gated concept. Likewise, I have not visited MBSA for years and not sure what is their latest guideline for this. 

2. Let say MBSA do not allow the developer to have gated and guarded. But you see some others development has such G&G, my personal view :-
    a) The developer is prepare NOT to handover the Road and Drainage, Or
    b) The developer obtain a special approval (which I don't think have any chance), Or
    c) The developer obtain more than 70% to have G&G and appeal to MBSA

In most time, developer will pick option A to go ahead with GG if the local council is not in favour of G&G concept.
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I do actually ask I&P it sound same reason they give about the road and drainage problem, but wonder why TTDI AI can do it... shakehead.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:19 AM

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the way i see it....simple .....

to I&P perimeter fencing is a problem to the developer, troublesome, what for need to land to stickly situation, cannot be done one

on the other hand

to other developers perimeter fencing is not problem, proven can be done, a sure $$$ when it is implemented

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QUOTE(yoki @ Mar 8 2012, 10:19 AM)
the way i see it....simple .....

to I&P perimeter fencing is a problem to the developer, troublesome, what for need to land to stickly situation, cannot be done one

on the other hand

to other developers perimeter fencing is not problem, proven can be done, a sure $$$ when it is implemented
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I dont think is so much on $$$$ it might due to some procedure or approval? I dont know but will clarify again this issue soon with MBSA or I&P again~

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