Yea, but actually our topic is about Nikon mirrorless camera; In this context, it should at least have a good sensor with good ISO capability against it's rival; Plus, it's one of the well known DSLR brand manufacturer, and another plus, it's known for providing good ISO capability.

Besides, for the S90/S95 competitor, there's already a specific model for it, and for compact size, there is already many models for it. Now we're talking about mirrorless; If it's true that it's a small sensor, I guess the competitor is the Pentax Q? There's no match at all for any other mirrorless out there, which are already so much advance.

Then again, it's still just rumors.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jul 26 2011, 11:21 PM

well, nikon's rival? canon?
we still dont know how canon's mirrorless is going to look like, or if they are even planning one.
if nikon does release what that rumored mirrorless is, and at a right price, it'll definitely give the s90, s95 etc a good run.

if the nikon mirrorless had an APS-C sensor, it'll probably interfere with the entry level DSLR market.
panasonic doesnt have any entry level DSLRs to worry about their m4/3 system hurting sales, likewise for olympus.
while for sony i dont know many ppl with a NEX, seen alot of alphas tho

while looking at canon's range.
the cameras that overlap in price with their entry level DSLRs are the the S95 and G series.
so perhaps canon doesnt see a need for a APS-C mirrorless or are still contemplating how best to go about their marketing strategy.
and guess that is what nikon are also thinking about on what sensor to use.

hmm if the nikon EVIL cameara sensor is really small...hmmm

do you think they will make shoot it and direct upload to facebook?
because file size small mah...

There's already a competing model for S90/S95 from Nikon.... Besides, mirrorless was meant for more slightly professional/advance user, especially for DSLR users, who doesn't want to carry their DSLR anywhere they go, yet they want to have a camera which has performance close to DSLR.

Anyway, I'm not sure where you are going, it seems you're supporting the smaller sensor or not happy that I mentioned the ISO capability of the S90/S95? Well, I'm just saying based on the mirrorless market.
There's already recent news about Canon mirrorless (not sure rumor or real); Whether it's real or not, imagine this, Nikon come up with small sensor mirrorless, then after that, Canon come up with say APS-C size sensor? Does it have to wait until someone come up with something good only need to wake up?

Well, whatever it is, the fact is, many users out there were disappointed to hear about the small sensor size for mirrorless, especially if it's a Nikon, as I have mentioned. Anyone is free to like or dislike it, whatever decision they make, it's impossible to satisfy everyone, there will be people who think they prefer smaller size, it doesn't matter; but I think as a mirrorless camera and based on the market standard, many people will prefer a bigger size sensor and a good competitor to current mirrorless camera.

1. Imagine Nikonians who wanted a mirrorless, disappointed with Nikon's and have to get other brands.
2. Imagine Nikon come up with true professional mirrorless, with bigger sensor and is giving the others in the same market a good run. Nikonians would be happy to get it; Imagine if they provide the adapter in the package, to mount current DSLR lens.

Based on above, I think point 2 sounds way better and there is more potential on selling the unit, plus, many Nikon DSLR owners might get one? If Canon doesn't offer the same, who knows, there might also be people jumping ship for this reason, especially those normal consumer.

Well, just my cheap 2 shutter clicks. It doesn't change any fact or what decision they already/will make anyway; I just hope/wish for a good mirrorless from Nikon that can give the current mirrorless rivals a good competition.

^ya , i hope the performance will be better or on par with canon compact/ EVIL camera product...

because canon seems dominating in that market...

Don't need EVIL camera for that, they can do it in their compact cameras; which more "consumer" will buy, those who don't bother about changing lens, want a small pocketable camera like Canon S95, Nikon P300, etc.

Those mirrorless, need to mount lens, need to clean sensor? when want zoom lens, it become bulky. If use prime lens (pancake), normal consumer will complain as they will want to zoom, etc. Even the latest GF3, it maybe small, but once mount a zoom lens, it's not really small anymore. No matter what, it won't fit into those small pocketable compact size camera like the likes of S95, P300, which is so small and compact.

None of you all used 24mm f2.8d before?

Im thinking whether wanna get 24-70mm or 24mm f2.8d or m4/3 with 17mm @@.

I searched all the infos d , still cannot make a decision.

My choice is D7000+35mm+50mm , m43 with 17mm.

or D7000+35mm+50mm+24mm f2.8d.

I dont need 17-55mm f2.8.

d7000 24mm+50mm+85mm.

great...i concur

Have you tried 24mm f2.8d before?

nope, i'm just choosing based on focal lengths rather than lens itself.

lol why you so concerned with this lens? can always go BTS to try what

Hi all:

Would like your opinion before making my first DSLR purchase. Considering Nikon's vs Canon's entry level models. I was doing the math, and couldn't decide which is a better option.

The Nikon models does not have an in-body AF motor, which means that you gotta buy the AFS lenses, which seems more expensive compared to the AF lenses. So, if you add up the cost of the body and the lenses that you will probably buy over the next few years, you will find that the the cost of ownership of Nikon can be much more expensive compared to the Canon.

I am making the assumption that the AFS lenses are similar in image quality and are more expensive primarily because of the SWM motor in the lens. Is this assumption correct? Or, are the AFS lenses indeed superior in quality (hence they are more expensive)?

Would appreciate your thoughts on this.

This post has been edited by gragon: Aug 26 2011, 10:27 AM

As far for 50mm f/1.8, the G is better than the D. In terms of wide open sharpness, bokeh and also AF accuracy.

However, I would personally pick the D7000 combination because D7000 has a twin dial which I like better than the single dial of the D5100.

Plus the advantages of having a motor in body

The only lens require motor I have is the 50mm f/1.8D . Most new lens are in AF-S anyways, not really a big issue now unlike previously.

Some old AF-D lens still pretty good what

Example...? There's the new ones to replace them!