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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V11, The Darth Vader troops !

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celciuz
post Aug 19 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 19 2011, 03:43 PM)
I guess it's more related to below issue;
https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/ans...etail/a_id/4585

The camera is unable to obtain focus due to not enough contrast? I'm not sure how it lock to the background IF the focus point does not go out of the subject. If the subject is far away and thus small, and the focus point is bigger than the subject, I know there's tendency of the focusing on the background. But for my case, if I remember correctly, the subject is still bigger than the AF point... UNLESS, the AF Point "actual" size is not that small.....
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You will only encounter this when you use area mode. So, start using single point. Take full control of your camera la...
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post Aug 19 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 19 2011, 04:27 PM)
I use "Single" Point, never use Area mode....

See the article again, it also can happen for single point:
"If the focus area contains objects at different distances from the camera, such as  Subject is inside a cage. The two different distances read by the same sensor will confuse the AF system."

"If the main subject in the focus brackets is relatively small, such as a person standing in front of a distant background.  This may result in the background being in focus, while the subject is out of focus.  This is more likely to occur when a wide angle lens is used."

My case, if I remember correctly, the subject appears bigger than the focus point (which I'm using the center here), but only slightly bigger if I'm not wrong. So, it's possible that the Focus Point actual size is bigger than what we see in the camera? Else, I'm not sure what's wrong, unless I remember wrongly.

Anyway, next time need to be more careful for such situation, perhaps can try focus on the body/clothes which have better contrast to ensure the focus lock correctly.
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So far, no such problem on my D90/D700 yet. Not even on the 1635 or even my kit lens 18105.
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post Aug 20 2011, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 20 2011, 12:18 PM)
G or D better?
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G of course. It is sharp at wide open compared to D. Renders nicer smoother bokeh too.
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post Aug 20 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 20 2011, 01:19 PM)
About RM650?
And battery grip about how much?
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What grip?

QUOTE(piscesguy @ Aug 20 2011, 02:01 PM)
May i know how much is Nikon 50mm f/1.8 G?
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They cost about RM650~RM700 depending on your negotiation skills.
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post Aug 20 2011, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Aug 20 2011, 02:28 PM)
Thanks...hope its a good investment.. sweat.gif  smile.gif
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Oh well, its a good 50mm. Sharp smile.gif Cheaper than the f/1.4G, its only 2/3 stop faster anyways. Not really a big concern. And it is sharp at f/1.8 too.
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post Aug 20 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(jingyong @ Aug 20 2011, 03:03 PM)
Anyone know any good & reliable camera shop in JB?
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I remember back then the Foto Berlian at Plaza Angsana was giving good pricing.
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post Aug 20 2011, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 20 2011, 04:28 PM)
Battery grip for D7000 lor
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Ops, sorry can't help. Haven't been following on prices of bodies or grips.

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Aug 20 2011, 04:41 PM)
the hell..it happen to my filter sad.gif

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accidently drop my d7k  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif
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Imagine without the filter, your lens would have taken the impact and who knows what will happen tongue.gif
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post Aug 21 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Aug 21 2011, 06:10 AM)
guys..when la D800 wan come out? sweat.gif
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Did you see the latest on nikonrumors.com? Seems like this month is probably the EVIL systems only based on NR.com's prediction.

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/08/18/5050-nr-...r-coaster.aspx/


Added on August 21, 2011, 12:24 pmDeng, just noticed my D700's GGS got scratches. I guess bumped into my belt perhaps ._.

Anyone with the 3rd gen? Any issue of dust getting inside?

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post Aug 23 2011, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(shah_ho_nam2 @ Aug 22 2011, 09:10 PM)
sorry i am a bit late on joining this group.

My newly bought d5100 is from dubai. said that it carried along international warranty. haven't fill anything on that form yet.

if it's international, can i join nikon.com.my?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 22 2011, 09:59 PM)
afaik, bodies do not carry international warranty.
and anyone can join nikon.com.my.
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Nope, you need serial number of Nikon product by Nikon Malaysia. It can be anything, Coolpix to high end DSLR gears.

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Aug 22 2011, 10:32 PM)
Hey guys I was thinking of getting a 70-200mm lens and was interested in the Sigma so i tested it out in a shop.. what do you guys thing about the image quality and sharpness?

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This was taken at 200mm, f2.8, 1/30secs, ISO 180

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Trying potrait of my gf and sister

70mm, f2.8, 1/30secs, ISO250
It seems sharp even without VR, What do you guys think? Or should I just save up and get the Nikon version with VR II.

I totally forgotten to take photos at f8-11 at the lens sharpest point.. Im still new at this... What else do I need to look for?

Thanks guys!
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Handshake, 1/30 at 200mm without VR isn't easy. Especially if you don't have support such as monopod or leaning against wall.

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Ting-ting by CY Pixels, on Flickr
Camera Nikon D90
Exposure 0.025 sec (1/40)
Aperture f/2.8
Focal Length 125 mm
ISO Speed 400

Took this sometime ago... don't have any slow shutter with my 70200 recently ._.

QUOTE(razuryza @ Aug 23 2011, 01:38 AM)
try looking at this photo.. if u have powderful eyes, u shall see the prob
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So its not due to DOF? I mean, can it be due to the left side is closer than the right sides? Just guessing.
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post Aug 23 2011, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Aug 23 2011, 04:24 PM)
nope.. its purely softer on the left side for most of the photos. even taking all lineup on straight line group photo also, can see on the left side not so sharp...


Added on August 23, 2011, 4:26 pmnope.. i shot at f8 also can see the softness


Added on August 23, 2011, 4:28 pm
then, when u show the pic to the people, get bamboo.. " why my face not sharp haa?"  laugh.gif
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I took a look at your other photo, didn't see the lens behaving the same way? Or they are not the same lens.
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post Aug 23 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Aug 23 2011, 06:51 PM)
if u pixel peeping, surely can see... if see at medium size, or 4R photos, not so visible... try this one... the man left is about the same distace from the camera with the woman at the right. but the man is soft
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Added on August 23, 2011, 6:54 pmthis one too.. the dishes on the left side is softer than the dishes on the right side
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Hmm, alright it looks bad.

Was surfing around to learn more of this kinda issue I found this. Seems similar to what you are experiencing tho.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=318047
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post Aug 23 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Aug 23 2011, 11:15 PM)
i've checked the lens with other D700 and another 16-35 with my cam... at BTS... so.. the conclusion, my lens oni got this prob...so i can assure that not my cam or my skill prob  laugh.gif
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Yes, the link I sent you was discussing about decentered lens. Meaning one of the elements isn't in the middle which explain why certain portion of your photo is consistently out of focus. (Also depends on your aperture, the bigger the more obvious).

Oh I actually got worried with my lens and started trying each of them LOL. Focusing on my LCD monitor which is full of text so I can see if any part of the image is not 'as focused compared to the middle'.
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post Aug 24 2011, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 24 2011, 12:50 AM)
From the samples I see, yes indeed it could most probably be that the elements in the lens are not aligned properly. I've read that this happens when you accidently bump the lens hard and the shock sometimes dislodges the elements.
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Yeah, another point to note when buying new / used lens.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Aug 24 2011, 01:47 AM)
@lwliam

Thanks dude for the photography crash course meetup just now biggrin.gif

It's funny to finds that I understand some the terms reversely sweat.gif

Regarding the PRE WB setting, the D7000 does has the capture and save WB thingy. It can be done by...

1. Setting WB to PRE.
2. Next, release the WB button then press and hold the WB button again.
3. There will be a bigger PRE label flashes in the top LCD menu and ready to shoot a grey or white object.
4. After shoot, the PRE WB for d-0 slot will then be set and can be used immediately by switching to it.

There will be no image stored in MC and can be replicated to other slot to keep the setting.

Just tested this method and the WB rocks. Just exactly like the scene tongue.gif

Thanks again dude for your time for the crash course !
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Next time you need to read the manual first... tongue.gif

QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 24 2011, 02:34 AM)
You're most welcome, but my A700 still beats the crap out of Canon and Nikon in terms of setting Custom WB... tongue.gif oops, wrong thread... just kidding guys brows.gif but still true wink.gif
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So, what feature that A700 has which Nikon/Canon DSLR don't have in terms on Custom WB? Being curious here tongue.gif.
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post Aug 24 2011, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 24 2011, 07:57 AM)
The steps needed to set custom WB. It's hard to explain, but it is a whole lot simpler. No menu digging and all.
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Custom WB? Do you mean using K values?

It can be done through the menus, no menu required. Just press WB, then change using the front dial to custom K and back dial to adjust the K values.
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 24 2011, 10:00 AM)
Nope, not the Kelvin values. The custom WB where you take a shot of a neutral grey or White subject and use that as a base for your WB. If you can get our hands on an A700/850/900, give it a try.

p/s: this is just an open discussion ok, not here to create any butthurt or anything. Please don't get offended. As I personally despise fanboy-ism.


Added on August 24, 2011, 10:02 amIf you all have not gotten a confirmation by tonight, when I'm back at home I'll make a video to show you guys alright? No problems at all.
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No worries, just a discussion here. I am curious when you mentioned that Alpha is more user friendly than Nikon/Canon and would like to know about it.

So, I take it you are referring to PRE right? You just need to press WB to select to PRE, then using one of the dials (I think its the front dial) to select which you want to save it to, d-0, d-1 or something. I don't remember exactly. Then take a shot, and it will save the WB settings for that specific timing. No menu required isn't it?

This is for D90 and above. D7000 is included too.
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post Aug 24 2011, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 24 2011, 10:45 AM)
Well I could be wrong as both vearn and I couldn't get it to work after half an hour of fiddling. Not that intuitive.
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Just let me confirm what you were trying to do,

Take a photo of a 'white' or 'grey' object, and then body calculates the WB based on that photo. Correct?

If that is what you needed, you can simply use the steps I mentioned earlier. No need to go into menu as what you described wink.gif

Unless you are talking about another type where you can choose from a huge pallet for the white balance, a more advance tweaking method then yes you need to go into menu. But if just taking a photo of a white subject and using the WB settings from there then definitely no need. All can be done via the buttons.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 24 2011, 10:50 AM)
actually in the D7000 there is a My Menu option where u can place your most frequently used settings, so its easily accessible from the first menu page.
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Even D90 has them tongue.gif, but from his description I think what he wants to do does not require using the menu at all.
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post Aug 24 2011, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 24 2011, 12:47 PM)
Jchue, I'm not going to start a 'my dad is better than your dad' thing here, hence there is no need for AMG, AC SCHNITZER thing here. All I wanted to point out was the convenience of it and how intuitive the UI is to someone new who picks up a particular cam. Fiddling for half an hour and still not able to figure out how it's done, that isn't called intuitive. My canon and nikon friends have no issue at all to figure out where things are the very 1st time they pick up my cam. That is called an intuitive UI.


Added on August 24, 2011, 12:48 pmLike I mentioned earlier, I will get the video done tonight at home. Then maybe we could discuss further and maybe u guys and prove me wrong. I have no issues with constructive information at all.
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Its the other way with my friends. Most of us got lost when using another friend's A850. Things got even worse with the A300 ._. She just bought a new A300 that time, then asked us to teach her to use it.. and it took few of us to actually find the features ._. not that long but still... not immediately like with a Nikon or Canon which most of my friends are using.

What I'm trying to say it, it might appear tough for you but not for others. And your friends being able to learn the Sony system quick doesn't mean everyone else does.

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 24 2011, 03:28 PM)
2. The A700 does not have the ability to use WB from other photos as base WB.
I think he is referring to the PRE feature where you take a shoot at a white item, then body will automatically determine the WB based on that.
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post Aug 24 2011, 08:40 PM

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Oh well, guess its nothing big. I was a little shocked when he mentioned about Nikon systems need to go in menu just to do that :-P. Most of the stuffs can be done without even looking at the LCD monitor at least for a D7000.

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