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post Jul 18 2011, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(hazwan_aviator @ Jul 17 2011, 10:05 PM)
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2nd pic, did u used support equipment...?(monopod/tripod)
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nope, just making use of VR.
300mm, f/5.6, 1/125s, iso1600.

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post Jul 18 2011, 01:32 AM

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so ani actual current market price...?
as jz wana make sure onli...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 01:13 AM)
nope, just making use of VR.
300mm, f/5.6, 1/125s, iso1600.
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what body did u used?
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post Jul 18 2011, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(faareast @ Jul 18 2011, 02:28 AM)
what body did u used?
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umm, D7000, so technically it should be at 450mm tongue.gif
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no wonder good ISO control.. at first i thought u use d700~
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QUOTE(faareast @ Jul 18 2011, 02:52 AM)
no wonder good ISO control.. at first i thought u use d700~
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Hehe the user also good mah.. If not good then pic won't be that good..
Iso1600 on a brightly lit stadium is okay mah..
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[quote=yanhui95,Jul 17 2011, 10:47 PM]
[quote=dark lenanza,Jul 17 2011, 10:14 PM]
hoya 1d..
never regret

thanks for the reply, how much would that cost me?
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i bought around RM230
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post Jul 18 2011, 10:51 AM

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Guys, any recommended shop to get Aipo drybox at good bargain-able price? unsure.gif

My location is PJ/KL.

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post Jul 18 2011, 11:00 AM

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And so I sold off my One.Point.Four. What to get now ? sleep.gif
Already 4 months didn't really snap a photo sweat.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jul 18 2011, 11:00 AM)
And so I sold off my One.Point.Four. What to get now ? sleep.gif
Already 4 months didn't really snap a photo sweat.gif
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Alamak, why sell that lens? No good ar? laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 17 2011, 08:20 AM)
Since u mentioned u have never held AFS 85g before, how would you even know the focus ability is the same? I am speaking base on my experience of using both lenses, I know how to use 1.4 lens  laugh.gif Hard to believe that u can say the focus hit rate of 1.4D = 1.4G from a user who have never even use the 1.4G version before. It's just like those 80-200 user saying their lens is as sharp as my 70-200 VR2  doh.gif
No idea who said that 80-200 is as sharp as the VR2. I have always said that the VR2 is sharpest followed closely by AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, VR1 and lastly the two touch on FF. I also don't doubt that the newer 85mm f/1.4G is sharper than the 1.4D. Should be since newer tech and optics. But on achieving correct focus, both 85mm lenses are about the same. Speed of achieving correct focus would be AF-S hands down.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 17 2011, 10:28 AM)
LOL, totally agree. Well, experience is the best smile.gif. Like wise, I always thought 80200 was pretty good and easy to handle.. but the other time trying out Bliz's 80200 got a shock haha!
What was shocking?

Like everything else, lenses are tools of the trade. They only help us to take photographs. So if one person cannot achieve better results with it, don't go blaming the tools.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 17 2011, 10:28 AM)
Initially I always thought 85D and 85G differences is just the nanocoat, but was dead wrong when I compared both units side by side.
The difference is not worlds apart. Difference is much closer than 80-200 and 70-200 comparison and even then, you pixel peep on the LCD screen.

QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 17 2011, 11:18 AM)
Lol never try never know, don't just say the focus hit rate of D version is the same as the G version when you didn't even test the G version before laugh.gif ... 80-200 is really front heavy and feels much more heavier than the 70-200 eventhough the latest version of 70-200vr2 is the heaviest among all  doh.gif
Again, your statement on weight is incorrect. The AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 is the heaviest.

Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing. hmm.gif

My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion?

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:37 AM)
umm, D7000, so technically it should be at 450mm tongue.gif
Did you have to crop?

QUOTE(KTCY @ Jul 18 2011, 11:00 AM)
And so I sold off my One.Point.Four. What to get now ? sleep.gif
Already 4 months didn't really snap a photo sweat.gif
A 85mm f/1.4? Or a 200mm f/2.0?
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post Jul 18 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM)
No idea who said that 80-200 is as sharp as the VR2. I have always said that the VR2 is sharpest followed closely by AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, VR1 and lastly the two touch on FF. I also don't doubt that the newer 85mm f/1.4G is sharper than the 1.4D. Should be since newer tech and optics. But on achieving correct focus, both 85mm lenses are about the same. Speed of achieving correct focus would be AF-S hands down.
What was shocking?

Like everything else, lenses are tools of the trade. They only help us to take photographs. So if one person cannot achieve better results with it, don't go blaming the tools.
The difference is not worlds apart. Difference is much closer than 80-200 and 70-200 comparison and even then, you pixel peep on the LCD screen.
Again, your statement on weight is incorrect. The AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 is the heaviest.

Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing.  hmm.gif

My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion?
Did you have to crop?
A 85mm f/1.4? Or a 200mm f/2.0?
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To be frank, I was as stubborn as you back then when deciding between f/1.4D and f/1.4G. But ended up with the f/1.4G because it render nicer color, at that point of time I didn't know the focus accuracy differences between both lens until I swapped my lens with friend's 85mm f/1.4D mainly because he wants to try out then I found out the differences in terms of focusing accuracy.

Everyone knows lens are just tools. doh.gif

The weight is correct according to Nikonusa.com,
AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED
(Approx.)45.9 oz. (1300g)

AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II
(Approx.)54.3 oz. (1540g)
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM)
No idea who said that 80-200 is as sharp as the VR2. I have always said that the VR2 is sharpest followed closely by AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, VR1 and lastly the two touch on FF. I also don't doubt that the newer 85mm f/1.4G is sharper than the 1.4D. Should be since newer tech and optics. But on achieving correct focus, both 85mm lenses are about the same. Speed of achieving correct focus would be AF-S hands down.
What was shocking?

Like everything else, lenses are tools of the trade. They only help us to take photographs. So if one person cannot achieve better results with it, don't go blaming the tools.
The difference is not worlds apart. Difference is much closer than 80-200 and 70-200 comparison and even then, you pixel peep on the LCD screen.
Again, your statement on weight is incorrect. The AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 is the heaviest.

Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing.  hmm.gif

My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion?
Did you have to crop?
A 85mm f/1.4? Or a 200mm f/2.0?
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yea, 80-200 for me is slightly sharper than 70-200 VR1.
and yes, had to crop la, but i still had enough workable megapixels.
else i would need at least a 400mm lens / 600mm field of view to get that.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:34 PM)
To be frank, I was as stubborn as you back then when deciding between f/1.4D and f/1.4G. But ended up with the f/1.4G because it render nicer color, at that point of time I didn't know the focus accuracy differences between both lens until I swapped my lens with friend's 85mm f/1.4D mainly because he wants to try out then I found out the differences in terms of focusing accuracy.

Everyone knows lens are just tools.  doh.gif

The weight is correct according to Nikonusa.com,
AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED
(Approx.)45.9 oz. (1300g)

AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II
(Approx.)54.3 oz. (1540g)
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that is the weight of 80-200 AF-D.
AF-S is 1550gm.

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:11 PM)
Alamak, why sell that lens? No good ar?  laugh.gif
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Too good ! Just that been 4 months I never shoot anything.
Let it go to some other that appreciate it more. But will grab back once I'm back in photography wink.gif
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM)
Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing.  hmm.gif
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sweat.gif
Ok, I'm one of them sweat.gif but I do state I test it at BTS and so the opinion should be taken as is; Besides, the most important is still the person itself to try it out and decide; never buy solely because of word of mouth or reading around, it should be taken as reference, which can be useful when one do the actual test.

Anyway, everyone have their own experience and opinion to share, the person reading doesn't have to believe everything immediately, it should be served as referenced, and if disagreed, it's ok. We're all here to share and learn, but try to be nice to each other loh tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jul 18 2011, 02:07 PM)
Too good ! Just that been 4 months I never shoot anything.
Let it go to some other that appreciate it more. But will grab back once I'm back in photography wink.gif
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rclxms.gif 4months only, drybox can handle maaa~
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:05 PM)
yea, 80-200 for me is slightly sharper than 70-200 VR1.
and yes, had to crop la, but i still had enough workable megapixels.
else i would need at least a 400mm lens / 600mm field of view to get that.
that is the weight of 80-200 AF-D.
AF-S is 1550gm.
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Oh, Blizz's 80200 is the AF-D. That's the one he had experience using smile.gif. I also used his before, it appears heavier when holding it, but on spec its lighter than the VR2.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:34 PM)
To be frank, I was as stubborn as you back then when deciding between f/1.4D and f/1.4G. But ended up with the f/1.4G because it render nicer color, at that point of time I didn't know the focus accuracy differences between both lens until I swapped my lens with friend's 85mm f/1.4D mainly because he wants to try out then I found out the differences in terms of focusing accuracy.
To be frank, I don't shoot enough to warrant a change of my current 1.4D to have the latest and greatest. I did not just buy my 1.4D yesterday. I bought mine in 2007.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:34 PM)
The weight is correct according to Nikonusa.com,
AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED
(Approx.)45.9 oz. (1300g)

AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II
(Approx.)54.3 oz. (1540g)
True enough, you forgot this one existed...

AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 IF-ED
1580g

Nikon stashed it deep to keep it hidden !

http://www.nikon.com.my/productitem.php?pid=792-74eba6f338

Seems like I replied before to this question too;

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry42552942

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:05 PM)
yea, 80-200 for me is slightly sharper than 70-200 VR1.
and yes, had to crop la, but i still had enough workable megapixels.
else i would need at least a 400mm lens / 600mm field of view to get that.
laugh.gif Yes, that's the beauty of DX bodies in general and the D7000 specifically. Loads of MP to crop.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:05 PM)
that is the weight of 80-200 AF-D.
AF-S is 1550gm.
Well, it's actually 1580g. I believe you got the 1550g figure from KR which he does not include the humungous HB-17 hood.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 18 2011, 02:10 PM)
sweat.gif
Ok, I'm one of them  sweat.gif  but I do state I test it at BTS and so the opinion should be taken as is; Besides, the most important is still the person itself to try it out and decide; never buy solely because of word of mouth or reading around, it should be taken as reference, which can be useful when one do the actual test.
No worries. I was not referring to you because besides you personally testing the lens at BTS and giving your opinions, you always mention that at the end of the day, the person needs to try it out for himself.

Anyway, I'm not saying that one cannot go to BTS to try and test lenses before buying but then please be reminded that in that short time, you can just make first impressions of the item you're "testing".

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 02:29 PM)
Oh, Blizz's 80200 is the AF-D. That's the one he had experience using smile.gif. I also used his before, it appears heavier when holding it, but on spec its lighter than the VR2.
Indeed the two touch "feels" heavier because the VR2 (and VR1) is slimmer and easier to handle.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jul 18 2011, 10:51 AM)
Guys, any recommended shop to get Aipo drybox at good bargain-able price? unsure.gif

My location is PJ/KL.
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i think most prices in KL are about the same...i got mine from gstrapinuse.


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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 02:35 PM)
Well, it's actually 1580g. I believe you got the 1550g figure from KR which he does not include the humungous HB-17 hood.
i like rubber hood tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 03:07 PM)
i think most prices in KL are about the same...i got mine from gstrapinuse.
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So far, I checked gstrapinuse offers the cheapest price among I asked. I'm still considering should I take the AP-48EX or straight away get the AP-68EX to be safe hmm.gif

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