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2nd pic, did u used support equipment...?(monopod/tripod)
300mm, f/5.6, 1/125s, iso1600.
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so ani actual current market price...?
as jz wana make sure onli... |
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no wonder good ISO control.. at first i thought u use d700~
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Guys, any recommended shop to get Aipo drybox at good bargain-able price?
My location is PJ/KL. This post has been edited by vearn27: Jul 18 2011, 10:52 AM |
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Jul 18 2011, 11:00 AM
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And so I sold off my One.Point.Four. What to get now ?
Already 4 months didn't really snap a photo |
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QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 17 2011, 08:20 AM) Since u mentioned u have never held AFS 85g before, how would you even know the focus ability is the same? I am speaking base on my experience of using both lenses, I know how to use 1.4 lens No idea who said that 80-200 is as sharp as the VR2. I have always said that the VR2 is sharpest followed closely by AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, VR1 and lastly the two touch on FF. I also don't doubt that the newer 85mm f/1.4G is sharper than the 1.4D. Should be since newer tech and optics. But on achieving correct focus, both 85mm lenses are about the same. Speed of achieving correct focus would be AF-S hands down.QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 17 2011, 10:28 AM) LOL, totally agree. Well, experience is the best What was shocking?Like everything else, lenses are tools of the trade. They only help us to take photographs. So if one person cannot achieve better results with it, don't go blaming the tools. QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 17 2011, 10:28 AM) Initially I always thought 85D and 85G differences is just the nanocoat, but was dead wrong when I compared both units side by side. The difference is not worlds apart. Difference is much closer than 80-200 and 70-200 comparison and even then, you pixel peep on the LCD screen.QUOTE(Bliz @ Jul 17 2011, 11:18 AM) Lol never try never know, don't just say the focus hit rate of D version is the same as the G version when you didn't even test the G version before Again, your statement on weight is incorrect. The AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 is the heaviest.Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing. My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion? QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:37 AM) umm, D7000, so technically it should be at 450mm Did you have to crop?QUOTE(KTCY @ Jul 18 2011, 11:00 AM) And so I sold off my One.Point.Four. What to get now ? A 85mm f/1.4? Or a 200mm f/2.0?Already 4 months didn't really snap a photo |
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM) No idea who said that 80-200 is as sharp as the VR2. I have always said that the VR2 is sharpest followed closely by AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, VR1 and lastly the two touch on FF. I also don't doubt that the newer 85mm f/1.4G is sharper than the 1.4D. Should be since newer tech and optics. But on achieving correct focus, both 85mm lenses are about the same. Speed of achieving correct focus would be AF-S hands down. To be frank, I was as stubborn as you back then when deciding between f/1.4D and f/1.4G. But ended up with the f/1.4G because it render nicer color, at that point of time I didn't know the focus accuracy differences between both lens until I swapped my lens with friend's 85mm f/1.4D mainly because he wants to try out then I found out the differences in terms of focusing accuracy.What was shocking? Like everything else, lenses are tools of the trade. They only help us to take photographs. So if one person cannot achieve better results with it, don't go blaming the tools. The difference is not worlds apart. Difference is much closer than 80-200 and 70-200 comparison and even then, you pixel peep on the LCD screen. Again, your statement on weight is incorrect. The AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 is the heaviest. Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing. My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion? Did you have to crop? A 85mm f/1.4? Or a 200mm f/2.0? Everyone knows lens are just tools. The weight is correct according to Nikonusa.com, AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED (Approx.)45.9 oz. (1300g) AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II (Approx.)54.3 oz. (1540g) |
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Jul 18 2011, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM) No idea who said that 80-200 is as sharp as the VR2. I have always said that the VR2 is sharpest followed closely by AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8, VR1 and lastly the two touch on FF. I also don't doubt that the newer 85mm f/1.4G is sharper than the 1.4D. Should be since newer tech and optics. But on achieving correct focus, both 85mm lenses are about the same. Speed of achieving correct focus would be AF-S hands down. yea, 80-200 for me is slightly sharper than 70-200 VR1.What was shocking? Like everything else, lenses are tools of the trade. They only help us to take photographs. So if one person cannot achieve better results with it, don't go blaming the tools. The difference is not worlds apart. Difference is much closer than 80-200 and 70-200 comparison and even then, you pixel peep on the LCD screen. Again, your statement on weight is incorrect. The AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 is the heaviest. Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing. My opinions are based on my understanding and after owning several AF-S as well as AF lenses along the way. You sound like you own a lot of lenses but have you own enough to form an opinion? Did you have to crop? A 85mm f/1.4? Or a 200mm f/2.0? and yes, had to crop la, but i still had enough workable megapixels. else i would need at least a 400mm lens / 600mm field of view to get that. QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:34 PM) To be frank, I was as stubborn as you back then when deciding between f/1.4D and f/1.4G. But ended up with the f/1.4G because it render nicer color, at that point of time I didn't know the focus accuracy differences between both lens until I swapped my lens with friend's 85mm f/1.4D mainly because he wants to try out then I found out the differences in terms of focusing accuracy. that is the weight of 80-200 AF-D.Everyone knows lens are just tools. The weight is correct according to Nikonusa.com, AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED (Approx.)45.9 oz. (1300g) AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II (Approx.)54.3 oz. (1540g) AF-S is 1550gm. |
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:20 PM) Anyway, if I have not personally tested and own a particular lens, I will be honest upfront and say that I have not unlike some here who claims that touching and fondling it at the shop or fired few test shots in BTS is considered testing. Ok, I'm one of them Anyway, everyone have their own experience and opinion to share, the person reading doesn't have to believe everything immediately, it should be served as referenced, and if disagreed, it's ok. We're all here to share and learn, but try to be nice to each other loh |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:05 PM) yea, 80-200 for me is slightly sharper than 70-200 VR1. Oh, Blizz's 80200 is the AF-D. That's the one he had experience using and yes, had to crop la, but i still had enough workable megapixels. else i would need at least a 400mm lens / 600mm field of view to get that. that is the weight of 80-200 AF-D. AF-S is 1550gm. |
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:34 PM) To be frank, I was as stubborn as you back then when deciding between f/1.4D and f/1.4G. But ended up with the f/1.4G because it render nicer color, at that point of time I didn't know the focus accuracy differences between both lens until I swapped my lens with friend's 85mm f/1.4D mainly because he wants to try out then I found out the differences in terms of focusing accuracy. To be frank, I don't shoot enough to warrant a change of my current 1.4D to have the latest and greatest. I did not just buy my 1.4D yesterday. I bought mine in 2007.QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 12:34 PM) The weight is correct according to Nikonusa.com, True enough, you forgot this one existed...AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED (Approx.)45.9 oz. (1300g) AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II (Approx.)54.3 oz. (1540g) AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 IF-ED 1580g Nikon stashed it deep to keep it hidden ! http://www.nikon.com.my/productitem.php?pid=792-74eba6f338 Seems like I replied before to this question too; http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry42552942 QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:05 PM) yea, 80-200 for me is slightly sharper than 70-200 VR1. and yes, had to crop la, but i still had enough workable megapixels. else i would need at least a 400mm lens / 600mm field of view to get that. QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 18 2011, 02:05 PM) that is the weight of 80-200 AF-D. Well, it's actually 1580g. I believe you got the 1550g figure from KR which he does not include the humungous HB-17 hood.AF-S is 1550gm. QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 18 2011, 02:10 PM) Ok, I'm one of them Anyway, I'm not saying that one cannot go to BTS to try and test lenses before buying but then please be reminded that in that short time, you can just make first impressions of the item you're "testing". QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 18 2011, 02:29 PM) Oh, Blizz's 80200 is the AF-D. That's the one he had experience using Indeed the two touch "feels" heavier because the VR2 (and VR1) is slimmer and easier to handle. |
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jul 18 2011, 10:51 AM) i think most prices in KL are about the same...i got mine from gstrapinuse.Added on July 18, 2011, 3:08 pm QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jul 18 2011, 02:35 PM) Well, it's actually 1580g. I believe you got the 1550g figure from KR which he does not include the humungous HB-17 hood. i like rubber hood This post has been edited by Everdying: Jul 18 2011, 03:08 PM |
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