if sharpness is concerned, get the cheapo 50mm f/1.8D also will do.

its a sharp lens

Okay let's get to basic first.

1. If I understood your reply, you assumed I or my friend uses 'Area mode' AF tracking when comparing the 85 f/1.4D versus the 85mm f/1.4G?

2. 50% that my shots are OOF? Meaning not focused to where I intend to? I get it focused where I want it to be. I shoot only in single AF point mode. If it is the eyes, then it is the eyes.

3. Based on my experience with the 85 f/1.4D, it acquire focus faster than the 85mm f/1.4G. But hit rate aren't as good as the f/1.4G despite being faster.

4. Depending on condition, sometimes the 85 f/1.4D can't even get a lock under low light, hunting compared to 85mm f/1.4G. To be frank, have you tried the 85mm f/1.4G and comparing it side by side with the f/1.4D before? If you did, you would understand what I experience.

This I would agree 100%, have used my friend's 85 f/1.4D many times already before getting my own 1.4g

1. Focus accuracy @ 1.4 is way better than the 1.4D under low light
2. Focus speed i think is almost the same anyway ( Way slower than 70-200 but not unbearably so )
3. Focus accuracy improves once stop down ( I guess it's the same for any prime lens? )
4. Sharpness for 1.4G wideopen is generally a bit better than 1.4D, but not shockingly better as the 1.4D is quite usable wideopen

My conclusion is same with CY, under low light condition the D version hunts and miss focus much more frequently compared to the 1.4G version, there's just no comparison at all 

f/1.8D kinda fail compared to f/1.8G . Want cheap and sharp lens can go to f/1.8G instead.

u get what u paid mah.Rm3xx vs Rm6xx,

rm300++ difference there

Welcome. What is orange country? 

Which Nikon model did you get?

I think if you have sufficient photography experience from another brand, it should be fine on the Nikon. Just need to get used to the buttons. That's all. Just like driving a new car with unfamiliar controls. But that does not mean you need to take L driving license again, right? 

Okay let's get to basic first.

1. If I understood your reply, you assumed I or my friend uses 'Area mode' AF tracking when comparing the 85 f/1.4D versus the 85mm f/1.4G?

2. 50% that my shots are OOF? Meaning not focused to where I intend to? I get it focused where I want it to be. I shoot only in single AF point mode. If it is the eyes, then it is the eyes.

3. Based on my experience with the 85 f/1.4D, it acquire focus faster than the 85mm f/1.4G. But hit rate aren't as good as the f/1.4G despite being faster.

4. Depending on condition, sometimes the 85 f/1.4D can't even get a lock under low light, hunting compared to 85mm f/1.4G. To be frank, have you tried the 85mm f/1.4G and comparing it side by side with the f/1.4D before? If you did, you would understand what I experience.

This I would agree 100%, have used my friend's 85 f/1.4D many times already before getting my own 1.4g

1. Focus accuracy @ 1.4 is way better than the 1.4D under low light
2. Focus speed i think is almost the same anyway ( Way slower than 70-200 but not unbearably so )
3. Focus accuracy improves once stop down ( I guess it's the same for any prime lens? )
4. Sharpness for 1.4G wideopen is generally a bit better than 1.4D, but not shockingly better as the 1.4D is quite usable wideopen

My conclusion is same with CY, under low light condition the D version hunts and miss focus much more frequently compared to the 1.4G version, there's just no comparison at all 

if G is worst then D what is the point of nikon make these new lens 

from sony a200 to D7000
too much button...pheww...
much setting and menu
and the most i love is AF point...

Oit next time turun for paintball big games bawak la...wanna test drive

No.
Excellent ! 
I guess I need to get myself a 1.4G and shoot more.
Never held the AF-S 85mm f/1.4G before. If under extreme low light, I only rely and use the 15 cross type sensor to focus.
Agree on all accounts except for #1. I would they are about equal and would depend on how you handle it.
That's why I mentioned  that I will not refuse if you give me the new AF-S 85mm f/1.4G to replace my AF 85mm f/1.4D. 

The one thing I like (and miss) about AF-S lenses is the ability to override the attained final focus manually if required by twisting the focus barrel.

Since u mentioned u have never held AFS 85g before, how would you even know the focus ability is the same? I am speaking base on my experience of using both lenses, I know how to use 1.4 lens  Hard to believe that u can say the focus hit rate of 1.4D = 1.4G from a user who have never even use the 1.4G version before. It's just like those 80-200 user saying their lens is as sharp as my 70-200 VR2 

LOL, totally agree. Well, experience is the best . Like wise, I always thought 80200 was pretty good and easy to handle.. but the other time trying out Bliz's 80200 got a shock haha!

Initially I always thought 85D and 85G differences is just the nanocoat, but was dead wrong when I compared both units side by side.

wat's the current market price for 85G & 16-35...?
got drop or increase...?

Lol never try never know, don't just say the focus hit rate of D version is the same as the G version when you didn't even test the G version before ... 80-200 is really front heavy and feels much more heavier than the 70-200 eventhough the latest version of 70-200vr2 is the heaviest among all 

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Added on July 17, 2011, 11:19 am
Normally price of lenses won't change much, that's why always buy more lenses first 

hi guys, a small question here,
Can anyone recommend a filter for the 18-105 lens that comes with the kit?
And the price too, thanks so much

Oit next time turun for paintball big games bawak la...wanna test drive