HTC Desire S Official Thread Version 2



Reviews:
1. GSMArena: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-review-590.php
2. Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/10/htc-desire-s-review/
3. Slashgear: http://www.slashgear.com/htc-desire-s-review-28142921/
4. Techradar: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mo...s-930920/review
5. Phonearena: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-Desire-S-Review_id2702


Pictures:



Specifications:


HTC Desire S Guide for Newcomers to Android:
This guide will guide you throughout your Desire S phone. What's the best app to use it on your phone, some tweaks and more!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097538


How To: Check if your phone is S-OFF or S-ON and your HBOOT version
1. Disable Fast Boot. (Setting > Power > uncheck Fast Boot)
2. Turn off your phone.
3. Turn on your phone by pressing the power button and volume down button together.
4. You will see a white screen with "S-OFF" or "S-ON" and your hboot version on top of the screen.
NOTE: If your phone is S-ON, you won't be able to root or flash custom ROMs to your phone. To make it S-OFF, follow the guide below.


How To: S-Off your device with Revolutionary: S-OFF & Recovery Tool
Unrevoked and Alpharev present: Revolutionary Tool
Please also read the documentation page for this tool: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
Does Revolutionary give me root?No. You will need to flash this zipfile from recovery.
NOTE: For HBOOT 0.98.0002, please use this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194488. Thanks to slvrbllt
S-OFF your phone using Ubuntu:
1. Download Ubuntu 11.04 from the Ubuntu site.
2. Burn image onto DVD/CD or create a USB Stick (I suggest creating USB stick since it loads faster, for me). (Follow instructions provided at the website to create a bootable CD or a USB Stick).
3. Reboot computer. Allow Bootup popup menu (usually F8?).
4. Select DVD/CD-drive or USB Stick to boot Ubuntu.
5. Wait a bit for things to load. Choose "Try Ubuntu".
6. Now, Ubuntu should load up successfully. (see screenshot)
7. Connect phone to your computer and make sure that Debugging Mode is enabled on your phone. Download the tool from http://revolutionary.io/ for Linux (Firefox included with Ubuntu). Keep that browser window open.
8. Extract the downloaded file and put it into the root directory (in Ubuntu, that's Ubuntu/Ubuntu, if I recall correctly).
9. Search for the Terminal (Windows key pops up the search, I think; otherwise, it's the icon on the top left corner of your screen), run Terminal.
10. Type in "sudo ./revolutionary" at Terminal.
11. It'll provide a key. Go back to the browser window where you downloaded Revolutionary tool - there's a form to fill out. Type in the key. It'll generate a second key. Type that key into the Terminal.
12. Make sure it says that everything is successful. It'll ask if you want to flash Clockwork. Type in "Y".
13. Once it shows success, reboot phone.

S-OFF your phone using Windows:
1. Download Revolutionary tool for Windows from http://revolutionary.io/ (Keep the browser open)
2. Extract the zip file to a new folder.
3. Connect phone to your computer and make sure that Debugging Mode is enabled on your phone.
4. Open the new folder and right click on "revolutionary.exe" and select run as administrator.
5. Follow steps from Step 11 above.
WARNING: S-OFF your device will void your phone's warranty. You will need to turn it back to S-ON for warranty. (I don't have a guide to make it back to S-ON right now, so do it as you wish).
S-OFF Video Below:



How to: Root your device
1. You can achieve root by using Gingerbreak. Follow this link and guide below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
2. Or, you can flash this zipfile from recovery (Source: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary).
(You can skip this if you're about to flash a custom ROM since custom ROM are pre-rooted. Unless you want to keep your original ROM, use this to root your device.)


Custom ROMS:
Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid
SAGA LBC MOD (Sense 2.1+3.0/OC/UV/FAST/STABLE
CoreDroid Desire S GB 2.3.3 |SENSE|STABLE & FAST|MDJ Kernel|ONLINE
CyanogenMOD 7.1 from Inc-S
MIUI ROM
BeatMod FlyerSense
(Most of these ROMs are pre-rooted which means you don't need to root your phone. It's already rooted once you flash these ROMs.)


How To: Flash Custom ROMs using Recovery (Method 1)
(You can use your default recovery from Alpharevx but I recommend using 4EXTRecovery)
1. Copy your custom ROM "zip" file to your SD card (Root directory).
2. Turn off your phone.
3. Turn on your phone by holding the power button and the volume down button together.
4. Once you see the white screen, choose "Recovery"
5. Make a full wipe/format and clear all cache.
6. Choose "install from sdcard/zip file" and then choose your Custom ROM zip file from your SD card to flash your Custom ROM.


How To: Flash Custom ROMs using ROM Manager (Method 2)
(This method might be easier for flashing ROM updates or add-ons)
1. Go to ROM Manager (You can install this software from the Android Market.)
2. If you want to use 4EXTRecovery, please follow steps below, and if you're not using 4EXTRecovery, please skip to step 6)
3. Press your phone's option's button and choose Manual Flash Override.
4. Press OK and choose your phone model.
5. Choose ClockworkMod 3.x (After these steps, your ROM Manager won't ask you to flash new recovery again when flashing new a ROM)
6. Reboot into Recovery and make a full wipe/format and clear all cache then reboot.
7. Now, from your ROM Manager, choose Install ROM from SD Card.
Note: Flashing ROMs can be vary, some custom ROMs may require you to flash some of their own file first. Eg, The LBC Mod ROM requires you to flash "WIPE zip file" before flashing the ROM. Read their instructions to know better.

NOTE: I am not responsible for any faulty or bricked devices after S-OFF or flashing new ROMs. Do it at your own risk.
Video Flashing Custom ROM below:




How to: Flash Radios
1. Download your Radio zip package.
2. Copy your Radio zip package to your SDcard root directory and rename it to PG88IMG.zip.
3. Turn off your phone and turn it back on by pressing volume down and power button together (You need to turn off fastboot under phone settings > power options).
4. Once you're in hboot, the bootloader will ask you if you want to install radio.img.
5. Press confirm and reboot your device.
Note: You must delete your Radio zip package or rename it to something else when booting your phone after flashing new radio image since the bootloader will always try to flash if a PG88IMG.zip file is on your SDcard.


Where to buy?
From Maxis: http://www.maxis.com.my/personal/android/A..._WhereToBuy.asp
Market Price for AP set should be around RM1300 or less and RM1600+ for original if you don't want to get it from Maxis. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) Based on current price date at 10, July 2011.


FAQs:
1. What's S-OFF and S-ON?
- If your phone is S-ON, you won't be able to root or flash custom ROMs to your phone. S-OFF let's you to have full control of your phone.
(NOTE: S-OFF is not ROOT, S-OFF your device does not mean that your device is Rooted. They are totally two different things.)

2. How can I backup all my apps and apps' data files before flashing a new ROM and wiping all my datas?
- You will need to root your device first using Gingerbreak(see above). And then, install Titanium Backup and use that to backup all your apps and your apps' data files.

3. I have WiFi death grip/Wifi signal drops when I hold my phone in certain ways.
- There are no 100% right fixes yet for this issue but give it a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175646

4. Is it possible to install 4EXTRecovery/Flashing ROMs/ROOT on Desire S with S-ON?
- No, it is not possible. You must/need "S-OFF" to customize your device.

5. I've just received this system update OTA - 1.47.61.1 or later. If I install it, will I loose my S-OFF and root?
- Yes, you will lose both S-OFF and root once you update because it will update the hboot to 0.98.0002. However, you can try following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.p...608&postcount=5 to update the OTA but not the hboot. Check this one out also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1190992 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194488 to S-OFF and root if you have updated the OTA.


Final Notes:
Can't find the right guide? Request it here. Any Problems or Questions? Ask around this thread. But please read the FAQ first before asking, it usually helps.
I also want to say thanks to those people who contributed to this thread. Enjoy your phone! Guide ported from XDA, it may contain errors on this thread, check out my official thread on XDA for more.

WARNING: Please follow those steps carefully, it usually works if you do it properly. However, I am not responsible for any faulty or bricked devices. Do it at your own risk.

This post has been edited by nodeffect: Sep 27 2011, 03:32 PM

Hi,

Regarding the S-OFF or S-ON, i turned on my phone by pressing the power button and volume down button together, and letting go the same time, but i didnt see anything on or off... what happened?

^pull battery and try again. HTC's quick boot feature getting in the way I suspect.

Thanks that worked for me. But S-OFF is not a must is it? (Just making sure..) Its unless i want to Rom right?

unless u need a custom ROM or you want your phone to be rooted.

any1 using papago ??? how was it ??

hye. .
what is actually "S-OFF or S-ON"??i'm a really new about android and all of this.huhu

Hi, want to ask, can this phone make normal video call?

S-ON means that it is locked by HTC and you can't root your phone or install custom ROM into your phone, basically you're stuck with their stock ROM and not able to root it at all.

You can only make video calls through using apps...

Thanks for the answer

Post copied from V1, hehe ...

I live near BB, so might get my DS from Lowyat, but not sure either an Ori or an AP.
For Ori, does it sound proper for me to get the IMEI number from dealer and call BrightStar on spot (during weekend) to check the warranty card before paying?
For AP, what does it mean by "AP warranty card"? The warranty card issued on the name of the dealer? Sounds as if the card will be void if the shop suddenly closes down.



Currently in a trade-off between data usage and network coverage.
I'm a Hotlink prepaid user with call and SMS controlled below RM20/month. In future, my data usage will be up to 1GB/month.

Here comes the divergence:
Maxis plan with phone (RM30 + RM78) and with risk of extra charge w/o notification. Phone at RM1309 (assuming 1-yr contract). LESS BUDGET-FRIENDLY.
Digi plan w/o phone (RM68 + RM20), with unlimited network access. Phone at RM1700 (or AP around RM1350). MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE 24/7.

Between the risk of horrifying additional charge (proven by some Maxis users) and the risk of poor coverage (claimed by some Digi users), which option should I go for? Is Digi service really that poor?



It means the battery needs time for 'orientation'?



I wonder that also. Any solution to make the switcher totally manual?

DIGI service is moderate, you can notice that 3G is disable on most places even at MidValley, it's not using 3G for data. But for some places it is working well. Depends on your preferences.

Regarding the battery, it can last me for 2 days for normal usage. When I first bought it, I full charged it and use it all until the phone shut down itself and then fully charged it again. Repeated it for 2-3 days.

The mobile data does not turn back on on me after restarts. I don't know whats the problem but you can try flashing a custom ROM.

Hope this helps.

You can try "Tango" or "skype" which is available for both iPhone and android, download from the Market.

This post has been edited by nodeffect: Jul 11 2011, 01:04 PM

WTF... been away for a couple of days suddenly now can S-Off?? Will try at home later.

Also it seems that HTC is almost done with their official bootloader unlocking for Evo 3D and Sensation. Desire S will get it much later based on this sentence on facebook.

"We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments."

This current S-Off method can S-On back..? If i not mistaken it is not and TS should put some kind of warning...

Correct me if i'm wrong...

Thanks for your advices... added warning message.

if i failed during the rooting progress will it brick?? and if it bricked can i redo the progress to un brick the phone?? .

if the rooting same like flashing cfw into nokia phone then i dont have to worry cause i can keep flash until it work

as far as I know, rooting won't brick your device, if rooting fails you can always try to root your phone again.

ok thanks im searching the undo tutorial once i get it i will root my phone

Well that was easy LOL. Now to root!

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Added on July 11, 2011, 7:41 pmAnd done rooting with Gingerbreak!

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Added on July 11, 2011, 8:04 pmSorry if i'm too excited but can't help it since it's just too easy even if i was a virgin to Android rooting!


This post has been edited by Joseph Hahn: Jul 11 2011, 08:04 PM

Congratz!!! Have you flashed a custom ROM yet ? or you just s-off your phone and root it ?

Nah i just want root for now. Maybe later i'll try some custom ROM. Been interested with Virtuous Unity for a while now.

i think 1st thing i going to do after root my phone is overclock my phone how much can this phone go?

Any recommended custom ROM? What can i get from the custom ROM?
I'm new to this android rooting thingy.
I hope to get some opinion/advice from those who are really expert in rooting.
Thx~ =)

This post has been edited by likhow: Jul 12 2011, 01:10 AM

im no expert in rooting but what i know on custom rom is many useless thing get removed like htc hub ,htc like, htc report agent and etc .

Custom ROM tweaks the original ROM and add in more functions like, making the wifi better, able to overclock the CPU(you can do this by rooting also), and much more... read their features on their forum, you can find the links at first page. I recommend using Virtuous Unity 1.27.0 Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid... which is a quite stable ROM... read their forum to know more...

jenwww, this ROM can go to 1.7 GHZ but not very stable..... you can read more on their official forum.

This post has been edited by nodeffect: Jul 12 2011, 09:36 AM

how bout 1.5GHz . if that is so stable then awesome !

Thx for ur info buddy! =D

I've got some questions.
Basically I've flashed the virtuous unity rom on my DS.
But I also like the lock screen animation on the LBC rom. How can I put that on my DS?

Another thing, there's this widget I really like from the stock - notepad by HTC
Can't seem to download that here. Anyway I can install this too?

Lastly, how do I get this on the virtuous unity rom?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088877

Hmm, Im not sure man, for that you will need to ask the creator.... btw, I thought the lock screen animation is the same for both ROMs ?

i'm sorry,i cant see anything either S-off or S-on after i turned off and turned back on my phone.anyone?

Disable Fast Boot in Power settings first then try again.

I'm currently trying out Virtuous Unity 1.27.0.

Some minor glitches because it's resized from qHD to WVGA.

Don't really fancy the carousel actually and now the wallpaper is just 800x480 instead 800x960.

Some new options & widgets and updated apps.

Overall very nice if a bit heavy.

Virtuous Unity is really nice.

Flash this in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=108

Lovely.
What's CRT by the way?

Has anyone suggested that the calculator is really out of size? Lol.

Those old TVs and Monitor. Will try that pack later.

Remember to "Disable fast boot first".... then when u turn back on, press the power and the volume down button together.... until there's a white screen.

In the end i'm using Saga LBC Mod. I guess i still prefer 2.1 home screen. Some tweaks already built in like the CRT effects and circular battery indicator with percentage.

does flash back original RUU ROM get my phone s-on back?? i really confuse . and google about htc desire s i always get result of desire

owh.thank you.I'll try it

Android was the best FOREVER!!

Flashing RUU will not return back the S-On...

hey man, are you using LBC v0.5.3? In terms of performance, which u prefer? Virtous or LBC? and how's the wifi fix man, does the wifi getting better on LBC? Give us some reviews on both ROMs man, thanks

I haven't apply the wifi fix. Or is it built in into the ROM?

I prefer LBC since i still like 2.1 homescreen. But i read that LBC will have 3.0 homescreen later. I just hope that it's optional. Still not ready for other launchers.

I think LBC is snappier since it's based on DS ROM instead of Virtuous which is based on Sensation ROM.

IMO it feels quite slow even though Quadrant reports around 2K with 1.2GHz default kernel OC. With LBC i get around 1800 in Quadrant which makes sense because it's not OCed.

Stock ROM can only get around 1300.

Maybe need to give them some time to optimize it and resize everything properly. Some things still looks weird to me. The built in screenshot function is useful though.

Added some screenies.


This post has been edited by Joseph Hahn: Jul 16 2011, 12:20 PM

nice screenshots man, looks cool...and thanks for your info, I might try the LBC then..

what app on ur top left side or ur screen? or it come with the custom rom?

System Panel. I really like it. The interface is nice to view system info. Not free though.

ok but i did check alot on google . many people suggest flash original RUU can revert back to S-on i havent found anything for desire s but i found this for incredible s

http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/in.../t-1152281.html

Well you could try... Last time i do with my DHD flashing RUU only will change ENG S-Off to PVT S-Off... Need to do another temp root for full S-On... Don't know about Alpharev X S-Off since never try it...

WOW...congrats!! V2 !!!

i still dun have the guts to root my desire S, scared the warranty void.

same here . unless i found a way to change back s-off to s-on . some forum says s-off can warranty too they will . i not sure that .

hey man, what version of LBC are you using? I tried downloading the latest version but the connection is really god damn slow....

0.5.3. Don't use download accelerator else it will keep resetting the download.

got anyone using original desire s from maxis??? can share your software infomation??

my AP phone comes with europe software



today i check for update manually i found 1.47.401.4 . i try to google it and i cant find any more info all result is in russian . wanna know what ruu rom does maxis device using . maybe using this europe rom i cant get gps lock on . help me pls .

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 21 2011, 04:15 PM

here you go jenn:



i'm using the one from maxis

My Maxis ROM gone already as i didn't back it up lol.

LOL you should remenber the version and download the backup before using custom rom

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Added on July 21, 2011, 7:08 pmthanks . gonna try it out see it will fix my gps problem or not . my EU software cant get gps sattelite even i stand under the hot sun for 1 hour !

edit: oh no . just now i check for my software version it all write russian and i have no idea what they write . now this version that came with maxis i google it all chinese i have no idea too

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 21 2011, 07:14 PM

This LBC ROM is based on Telstra ROM which is Australian but the guy making the ROM is German so i find it to be a bit weird.

But almost everything runs perfectly, even GPS. Kinda don't make sense that Euro ROM can't detect satellite in our area.

i really have no idea maybe is the gps chip problem . have to find out . if using mobile network or wifi it detect instantly .

also 1 have another reason wan to flash to asia rom because i dont like the united kingdom english . and i cant change to us english . when i choose english again it will go to english(italy)

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 21 2011, 07:21 PM

It seem stock rom got 2 FOTA update... The first 1 is system apps update while the 2nd one is firmware update...

got new method to root

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820

ENG Hboot

btw i dunno how it works

oh ya can someone help me ?? i use RUU to upgrade to asia software and radio it keep showing me customer id error .

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 22 2011, 12:44 AM

New cloth for my phone.

This post has been edited by kk6513: Jul 23 2011, 04:00 AM

Where you got it?

Just updated software ver to 1.48.707.1.
You guys noticed any difference? i dont.

gift from my brother.

new hboot version

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Added on July 23, 2011, 7:10 pmi got this case but i stick with my moovworks case little longer

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 23 2011, 07:10 PM

i just updated mine too. is there anywhere to read up on the update?

@kk6513, is that a nillkin case?

can anyone tell what the price for ori and ap now?
if compare to Desire HD and Incredible S, which one is better?

if compare to dhd you getting froyo 2.2

if compare to IS depends you wan bigger screen or not . everything is same just bigger screen and better camera

price for both dhd and IS is 1699 on pc expo

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 24 2011, 11:19 AM

HTC Desire S got new update,download now and don't know what it improve yet.

Version update was 1.48.707.1.


Menu kinda a bit different after update, so with the colour of ringer & media volume bar change to green

Others still checking. Phone like more smooth than before.

This post has been edited by muslayer: Jul 24 2011, 08:47 PM

share share your cool apps with me . here are my cool apps that i cant live without

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Added on July 24, 2011, 9:01 pmcheck your setting there is a Dock there . and check ur app drawer there should be something called Dock .

if dont have maybe just for my EU software

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 24 2011, 09:03 PM

Yup , have Dock there, (Mine is Maxis Set)

Still need to see what is new first,

new hboot . speed is improve 20% . i do nothing some optimized on the ram . then nothing else i saw

hey anyone knows where to get dust stoppers for the micro usb and headphone port?

hye, if buy standard, desire s come with android 2.2 or 2.3? sense 2 or 3?

Standard come with 2.3 android. Sense is 2.1

The LBC custom ROM is awesome!, you guys should try that.. loving the sense 3.0 lockscreen...

p.s Updated new ROM, more info will be added soon... more on first page.

This post has been edited by nodeffect: Jul 26 2011, 11:07 AM

how to update to sense 3.0???

you will need to flash custom ROM... if you want fully sense 3.0 u can try virtous utility... if u want half 3.0 and half 2.1, try LBC mod... I personally recommend LBC mod.. cuz it's stable and fast.

hi. if factory reset my ds, will my updated hboot version 0.98.0002 change back to its original hboot version 0.98.0000?

nope, it won't.. factory reset just removes all your files and programs.

p.s. Updated new guide for flashing ROMs and new custom ROMs added to first page.

then how to downgrade the hboot version to 0.98.0000 fro 0.98.0002? i found something about it on xda forum but could't understand. help please.

is kinda complicated . what gold card la what what adb la same here so confused .

Hi guys, my sis just got herself a HTC Desire S, just realize it cannot set Chinese as the main language, where all the menu and function name change into Chinese, any sifu know how? gotta upgrade the rom or? download the plug-in?

can change, go to setting and look for language and keyboard, there should be chinese
i tried just now, all my menu change to chinese

the only option there is English, without bracket while about to make the selection

but after choose, and it goes back to the menu
it actually show English (India)

its an AP set btw ...
hmmm, India set?

but all the English word is reading correctly.

Ooh...mine is Maxis set and i upgrade to the lastest software.

if im not mistaken this is goldcard and for adb see this tutorial.

p/s - i dont know if its working or not for downgrade the hboot as i'm not trying it yet

maybe my EU set cant set it either . when i change english again it from english uK to english italy LOL

maybe AP set rom is different from original set rom.

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Added on July 27, 2011, 1:43 pmFound out have some glitch after install 1.48.707.1 software, the video 3gp recorded cannot play back. Even restart the phone also cannot. When play got sound but the picture not moving. Do u all have this issue on ur Desire S?



Need to set the resolution to HD 720p and record and set back 800x 400, now can play back. Dunno is it because of the upgrade

This post has been edited by muslayer: Jul 27 2011, 01:43 PM

@nodeffect can you help me ask 1 question on xda devolopers?? i dont have permission to ask at that thread .

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231

i saw you wrote something there . i so wanna know .

ok my question is .


hope you can help me i really wan chinese language and test out asian software can fix my gps problem

This post has been edited by jenwww: Jul 27 2011, 06:30 PM

hey jen

Actually, u can create new post on the general section. You only can't create new post on the development section.

You so rajin create thread there hehe.