at RM185-190K, may be should also consider a VW Passat at RM175K or Peugeot 508 at RM171K.

If 185k I rather buy a Passat or a Mondeo.
If I want Asian cars I rather settle with Sonata.

no need to launch - continue with current model better.

if they sell that price for 2.5 spec then there are in for a really serious and competitive conti D segment challenge.
If so might as well take out 2.5 camry and place in the Toyota Avensis for that is a really good D segment conti spec toyota.

might as well Mark X like u say before...

Mark X should be around 160k range mah.... but then u cant buy it here for that price best is recond only.

lets keep dreaming ok

Toyota won't bring Mark X officially.. IS250 is here..

yah i know that why we should dream loh..... haha


sometimes i think the reason for Toyota dont bring in the models they sell in Japan into Malaysia is becoz there need a place for them to sell their 2nd hand japan only model.

Hence we get so many Wish, Estima, Alphard, and Mark X in Malaysia.

Oh and the Lexus IS250..... i think it should be a C segment car right? Becoz it is same range as C class and 3 series.

This post has been edited by 300078: Mar 27 2012, 04:52 PM

Of course not la, our market is so small, i think the reason is they cannot reach an economies of scale for the assembly plant, and a full CBU from japan would make it too expensive here.

The issue here is not our market is big or too small market.... too troublesome to bring in multiple models...

You need AP, Import and excise duties, puspakom etc... Just bring in a few models will do.

Anyway Camry is still a good car (remembered a fellow Lebanese student drove one in 1982 in Canada:) ) However, the engine technology maybe losing to the German. For more than 175K, I would go for Passat.

This post has been edited by karyeowl: Mar 27 2012, 05:08 PM

I think the new 2.5 is more than 175k already.

1 thing.. Camry vs Passat.. which car do u guys think will stand out in term of reliability?

Err... my dad was informed that the new Camry is following Japan spec, not sure true or not, later am gonna check out online whats the look and spec.

Yup, totally agree. Still ugly, but a decent car. Or US spec Camry, also fine. Even Japan spec should be fine. But I don't think so, I'd be really ö

Mh... reliability. I know a brand new VW (CBU) where one of the speakers fell down, and several other QC problems. They do all they can to fix it though. I hope that is an exception, the service seems very good though, friendly, professional and no long waits. Not used to not waiting from Renault/Nissan. A Camry is outdated tech, so it _should_ be more reliable. IMHO Toyota don't really deserve their reputation anymore though, maybe they are still a bit more reliable, but the price you pay for that bit of reliability is (IMHO) too high.

Actually car engines get rather old. But usually they are updated. BMW introduced an engine in 1961, it was used until 1987. Started with 75 hp, ended up delivering 1350 hp.

I think in other countries they go after brands too, to a certain degree. The mobbing hell a school kid in Europe may have to go through just because he or she doesn't wear branded clothes can be extreme.

IMHO iconic doesn't really matter when tech, only with design. That's probably what he meant. The Toyota FJ Cruiser, which nods to the original Land Cruiser? That's cool. Or one that does to the iconic AE86 (the GT 86 does, but looks totally different). A Rolls Royce has to look like a Rolls Royce. And it's not like Toyota is rubbish, it's just that in Malaysia, well, they don't treat us the way we deserve, especially being as loyal as Malaysians are. But I see that backfire slowly, once the Uncles can't drive anymore.

(Mercedes doesn't really pay a lot of tribute to older models, IMHO, sometimes to the SL300 perhaps, other than that though...?).

In terms of tech a Merc is usually rather modern.

@landlily98: The US spec Camry is an entirely different beast. Lets have a look, shall we? Base spec Camry. 2.5 with 6 speed auto. Not flashy at all, no spoilers, no fog lights. 16" Steel rims. Basic aircon, rather basic radio, has cruise control, has VSC, TC, ABS, BA, whiplash injury lessening seats, 10 airbags (!?!), tire pressure monitors, daytime running lights. Anything that makes the car safer is there. And a relatively decent gearbox. Here you get all sorts of useless rubbish (bodykit, nice big rims, ...), but what may save your life... nope. I mean... I can always add a spoiler and bodykit myself, change to nicer rims, ... I will not be able to upgrade the 2 airbags to 10 though. I really don't think the Malaysian spec Camry would sell at all in the US.

0300078 is just showing that he is considering the Camry if it offers good value for money. When I buy I'm open to (almost?) every brand. If Toyota has a car that is good, affordable, safe, then sure I'll consider it. If I find it to be better than the competition at this price point (and it doesn't make sense to spend a bit more, I wouldn't get a much better car) I'll buy it. Hell, I kind of like the GT 86!

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Mar 27 2012, 09:10 PM

Insider news is, the all new camry will still stick to the existing camry price due to CKD, no more from Thai.

mean the price for the new camry will remain at 175k???

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Added on March 27, 2012, 9:16 pmanyone can provide the japan specs of 2.5V?

This post has been edited by michspc: Mar 27 2012, 09:16 PM

which got higher chance to go in SC for 1week within few years of ownership?

U know better than anybody else here I think...


P/s: which 1 giving away a rolex of ownership every year...

i dunno wor, i'm not the one enjoying the courtesy car..

camry is never fastest, best speed, best safety, best tech,best interior, best outlook.

but....its reliable. otherwise, VW wont fight so hard with him for number 1

imagine u need twincharger dsg to fight the sales with uncle car