CKD Camry better than Tomyam land, I think we have to pray hard.
New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!
New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!
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Mar 22 2012, 12:01 PM
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CKD Camry better than Tomyam land, I think we have to pray hard.
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Mar 22 2012, 12:08 PM
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for the coming new camry... no 1 knows... but compare to the acv 30 and 40.. ppl who own it will know very well
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Mar 22 2012, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(landlily98 @ Mar 22 2012, 11:26 AM) Please pardon my ignorance and naivety...... A brand new Mark X selling at similar pricing with a brand new Camry in a few countries?? Wow, it's a great news! Cause i always thought Mark X is higher league than Camry in terms of vehicle status...? Would you kindly enlighten me which countries are they? I'm very keen to know, sincerely. As far as I know with my limited knowledge, in Malaysia, under the current tax structure, a brand new Mark X will never be sold at the similar price like a brand new Camry, simply because, one will be CBU, and one is CKD, (without even considering the vehicle status), so comparing them as rivals in Malaysia is as good as hopping a Porsche selling at Toyota's price. QUOTE(landlily98 @ Mar 22 2012, 11:40 AM) Yes bro, and this will effectively make Mark X become another outdated garbage as well? no???? it's exactly what is happening now, they are comparing higher spec-ed rivals to lower spec-ed Camry... of course the rivals need to be sold at lower price, they don't have the brand image. Who will buy if they are selling their cars at the same price point or higher price point??? Probably my IQ is too low to understand..... http://www.ftms.com.cn/vehicles/reiz/price.phpthe above link have the official price of Mark X frm lowest spec to highest spec. http://www.autohome.com.cn/110/ In china there are the same. High Spec Camry is selling also roughly the same price as those 2.5cc Mark X. And another u should get things clear off. I said Camry 2.0 is dated becoz the thing is the technology in it is really dated (10 year old tech). U do not need to compare it to any other brand or car, it already is a old engine and gearbox in a new cassing only. |
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Mar 22 2012, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Mar 22 2012, 12:31 PM) http://www.ftms.com.cn/vehicles/reiz/price.php ya sure, China is one good example, no doubt about it, using the lowest spec Marx rival the high specs Camry, good example indeed! And China is such a unique country where local brands can sell cars look so much like Japs/conti with only half the price..... well, I have to agree that you use China as an example is simply astonishing! Bravo! the above link have the official price of Mark X frm lowest spec to highest spec. http://www.autohome.com.cn/110/ In china there are the same. High Spec Camry is selling also roughly the same price as those 2.5cc Mark X. And another u should get things clear off. I said Camry 2.0 is dated becoz the thing is the technology in it is really dated (10 year old tech). U do not need to compare it to any other brand or car, it already is a old engine and gearbox in a new cassing only. Any other countries? coz you mentioned there are 'some' countries. IMHO, to find examples better use those countries with similar Malaysia setting. eg like Thailand, Indon, Taiwan, where only CKD Camry, CBU Mark X, or Singapore, Brunei, both CBU, if Mark X selling at the same price like Camry, and most people still buy Camry, I would have to agree that those people mentally may not be too sound. With your logic and reasoning, this will also make BMW cars using N52 engines considered relatively 'dated garbage', N52 debuted in 2004, continue using until 2011, in Malaysia even up to now....then slowly will be replaced by N20 from this year onwards.... a BMW 'premium' car use this good-8-year old tech??? or shall I say 'premium dated garbage???? Look at Lotus, how long Elise is out there with the same old design? garbage, garbage..... shall I continue to Merc, Porsche 911 line up, Rolls Royce, Maybach.... how long these car brands had used their proven design for an extended period of time throughout their production history? Anyway, to cut short the story, those who wants to buy Mondeo, pls do so. Make Sime Darby and Ford happy! Those who doesn't lile Camry, please don't buy but kindly respect other's choice. This post has been edited by landlily98: Mar 22 2012, 01:55 PM |
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Mar 22 2012, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Mar 21 2012, 11:47 PM) ... OMG .. ur beloved VW also follow UMW path,by under-spec Passat here,even if CBU ?! I checked what is possible on the regular Passat, however those features may not be available here, so I admit it is a bit unfair. In other countries the Camry is a better car, too. ... So UMW is not alone after all ??! |
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Mar 22 2012, 05:18 PM
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orang cakap current Camry big discount oh.. betul keh tu?
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Mar 22 2012, 05:19 PM
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Mar 22 2012, 05:22 PM
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Mar 22 2012, 05:40 PM
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Any idea when the new Camry's launching date is? Now March already almost gone.
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Mar 22 2012, 06:35 PM
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Mar 22 2012, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(eng98 @ Mar 22 2012, 12:08 PM) for the coming new camry... no 1 knows... but compare to the acv 30 and 40.. ppl who own it will know very well Are you sure about it ?? What I know, current ACV 4X camry from thai punya quality/finishing much better than acv3X which was CKD here This post has been edited by jason1818: Mar 22 2012, 08:07 PM |
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Mar 22 2012, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(Area51SE @ Mar 22 2012, 06:35 PM) Yea big discount, My friend's father just bought the camry with 10k discounted price. The best discount currently is RM11K which is being offered in the Klang Valley. But seems like all remaining stock has finished. |
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Mar 23 2012, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE(landlily98 @ Mar 22 2012, 01:41 PM) ya sure, China is one good example, no doubt about it, using the lowest spec Marx rival the high specs Camry, good example indeed! And China is such a unique country where local brands can sell cars look so much like Japs/conti with only half the price..... well, I have to agree that you use China as an example is simply astonishing! Bravo! U also know lah ppl used up to 8 year tech then replace mah. Camry one already 10 year now still used it back in the newer version so they gonna used it for another 5 year with this new look.Any other countries? coz you mentioned there are 'some' countries. IMHO, to find examples better use those countries with similar Malaysia setting. eg like Thailand, Indon, Taiwan, where only CKD Camry, CBU Mark X, or Singapore, Brunei, both CBU, if Mark X selling at the same price like Camry, and most people still buy Camry, I would have to agree that those people mentally may not be too sound. With your logic and reasoning, this will also make BMW cars using N52 engines considered relatively 'dated garbage', N52 debuted in 2004, continue using until 2011, in Malaysia even up to now....then slowly will be replaced by N20 from this year onwards.... a BMW 'premium' car use this good-8-year old tech??? or shall I say 'premium dated garbage???? Look at Lotus, how long Elise is out there with the same old design? garbage, garbage..... shall I continue to Merc, Porsche 911 line up, Rolls Royce, Maybach.... how long these car brands had used their proven design for an extended period of time throughout their production history? Anyway, to cut short the story, those who wants to buy Mondeo, pls do so. Make Sime Darby and Ford happy! Those who doesn't lile Camry, please don't buy but kindly respect other's choice. |
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Mar 23 2012, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(jason1818 @ Mar 22 2012, 08:06 PM) Are you sure about it ?? really? i comparing 1 pre facelift n facelifted acv40 with the facelifted acv30... fitting and material wise... acv30 is much better... the sound proofing is much better too in acv30..What I know, current ACV 4X camry from thai punya quality/finishing much better than acv3X which was CKD here |
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Mar 23 2012, 10:31 AM
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eng98
These are 2 different generations of Camry you are referring. Some never models maybe under going cost-cutting, newer environmental friendly materials etc which made the older model "behaved" better. I believe the Tomyam land Camry are supplied to MY, SG and Down-under. The other two countries have better requirement and more stringent regulations than MY. I strongly believe Tomyam land assembly is more reliable than our Bolehland, maybe due to workers' attitude. Ask some of friends who drive Honda that are assembled in MY about the Honda quality..... |
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Mar 23 2012, 12:44 PM
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i thought they will launch in march 2012?
now gotta wait till june. some SA pushing me to make downpayment. telling me the booking is piling up. but after hearing all this, i think it is better to see the physical car prior to making any decisions,. |
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Mar 23 2012, 01:50 PM
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http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...mw-toyota-motor
from the link about it says that the new camry will be launced by this march lol....but now its nearly last week of march lol |
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Mar 23 2012, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(jaymansion @ Mar 21 2012, 07:54 PM) err...dual link suspension = multilink suspension bro.... Dude, Honda Accord, Nissan Teana, Sonata... all are using independent Multi-link suspension, and the Toyota Dual-link suspension is totally different from the Torsion beam lar. the Toyota Dual-link is almost identical to those multi-link suspension, just it is much simple with only double link on the suspension (easier to design and much lower cost than multi-link), and dual-link is able to adjust the wheel alignment while the torsion beam is fixed, you can't do any wheel alignment on it.guess you're talking about torsion beam suspension? symbol of toyota ma....durability....what's the main advantages of torsion beam suspension? 1.higher durability 2.easier for manufacturer to tune 3.require less room space->contributing more interior space disadvantages = handling how to improve?use better quality bars....lol.... multilink suspension advantage = better handling disadvantages = hard to tune by manufacturer and eating up room space... if it's so easy to tune Lotus won't be famous for their handling.... however most non performance cars using multilink suspension the are on solid axle...not the independent multilink system...marketing gimmicks.... |
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Mar 23 2012, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Mar 23 2012, 07:04 AM) U also know lah ppl used up to 8 year tech then replace mah. Camry one already 10 year now still used it back in the newer version so they gonna used it for another 5 year with this new look. Yes, you are absolutely right, I can't agree with you more, Toyota is bad for you and your wallet, not good....not good...., please do yourself a big favor, stay away from this up-coming 10 year-old-low-tech-garbage, buy Mondeo, would be better for you and your wallet. Make Sime Darby proud ya?This post has been edited by landlily98: Mar 23 2012, 07:21 PM |
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Mar 24 2012, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(Gary @ Mar 23 2012, 12:44 PM) i thought they will launch in march 2012? If you are big fans of Toyota Camry and planning to buy 1, please pay down payment right now. My friend is working in the Toyota showroom and he told me that all the Toyota showrooms are piling up with the new camry booking regardless of any specs provided by UMW. The waiting time for new camry could take up weeks or months after launching. One of the reason is because they do not have any existing camry stock left after recent clear stock offer. New camry launching should be within weeks time.now gotta wait till june. some SA pushing me to make downpayment. telling me the booking is piling up. but after hearing all this, i think it is better to see the physical car prior to making any decisions,. |
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