So do you think it is worth for adding another 5k upgrading from 2.4V 5 speed transmission(vvti)to 2.5Q 6 speed transmission(dual vvti)???

No.
Camry should be cheaper since they are now assembled here rather than imported from Thailand.
If it's priced at 180k and above I'll suggest Passat at only RM 170K and comes with 5 years warranty.

[quote=Icehart,Mar 19 2012, 02:12 PM]
No.
Camry should be cheaper since they are now assembled here rather than imported from Thailand.
If it's priced at 180k and above I'll suggest Passat at only RM 170K and comes with 5 years warranty.




But passat only 2.0 right? Seems underpower lol. Who knows the launching price will drop around 175k?

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But passat only 2.0 right? Seems underpower lol. Who knows the launching price will drop around 175k?
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Are u still with that old fashioned thinking that engine capacity = power? Power is determined by the amount of horsepower and torque against weight of the car.

The Passat TSI is a 1.8L engine with 158Hp and 250Nm torque while the current Camry 2.4L has 165HP and 224Nm torque. The new Camry 2.5L would have 178Hp and 230Nm torque. So if ure looking at efficiency, the Passat would still rank higher and it would still be more powerful due to the 7 speed DSG and higher torque.

Passat is 1.8 turbo....

under power?

remap to stage 3 then...

i am also just waiting for the camry to have a look and a test drive but as expected, the specs are not to0 good

so it all goes by the pricing.....

else... passat is the choice

but passat is not well known in Sarawak here , hardly can see any brand of that car here lol

RM185K better get the VW Passat, cheaper and road tax also cheaper Moreover, 5 years warranty..

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Added on March 19, 2012, 5:09 pmI think the Passat is more fun to drive as it has good torque at low rpm.

Passat Camry2012
Price RM170,888 RM??
Engine 1798 2494

Body type 4-door sedan 4-door sedan
Length 4769 4825
width 1820 1825
height 1470 1470
Wheelbase, mm 2712 2775
Track front, mm 1552 1575
Track rear, mm 1551 1560
Wheel size 7.5J x 17 16"
Tyre size 235/45 R17
Turning circle, m 11.4 5.5

Max. output, kW (PS) at rpm 118 (160)/5000-6200 133(181)/6,000
Max. torque, Nm at rpm 250/1500-4200 231/4,100



This post has been edited by karyeowl: Mar 19 2012, 05:09 PM

U'll still choose the Passat 1.8TSI despite its boring interior & exterior looks and lesser specs compared to say the Optima K5 at RM27K cheaper?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Mar 19 2012, 05:14 PM

Bro, other people's opinions are just a guide, at the end of the day, you are paying the money and using the car, buy a car that you think will serve you well, reliable, good after sales and service at your area, and good resale value in the event when you are changing car in future.

You will hear many asking you to venture into certain car brands (maybe conti, maybe sushi, maybe kimchi......), and many will say how good those cars are.... but how many of them really own those cars or will actually buy those cars.... pure saying is always easier than actually doing, especially when they are not the one who pay for the car. So a forum is a place for you to read about others' opinion, gather info, and finally make your own decision.

Just my 2 cents.

engine will be diffrent from the current model

after all it is brand awareness. People go for passat because it is from VW. that's it.. regardless how awesome the K5 is, people will still assume it is a korean car.

Similar comparison can apply to many other sectors, if you observe it well.

i have never considered a korean car.

but i did drop by the showroom the other day and saw the k5....since the showroom was in the same row of Vw showroom...asked for test drive but the salesman said did not have any. what got with looks when we cant feel n experience the ride...?

Bro, no need to assume, it is a Korean car......no doubt about it.

[quote=michspc,Mar 19 2012, 02:49 PM]
[quote=Icehart,Mar 19 2012, 02:12 PM]

But passat only 2.0 right? Seems underpower lol. Who knows the launching price will drop around 175k?

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bro,go and have a test drive then you will know how powerful is the TSI engine+DSG gearbox.
Can smoke most of the Japanese d segment car easily leh

The Kangoo and Xsara aren't particularly safe cars. They are for what we paid for them, and the Xsara should protect me better when someone crashes into the side of the car (someone did once, no injuries. Had to replace the door though, totally wasted), other than that I'd expect the Malaysian Camry to be safer. BUT you can get a lot safer cars for the Camry price... at least from what we expect so far. I mean... I take it you like the Camry? Would you still think it's a good car and there is nothing wrong with buying it were it priced at 500k? Or would you rather buy a Lexus, BMW or Mercedes?

No VSC? So how can it have all you'd expect from a Passat? Besides the Passat can have adaptive suspension... press a button, it's comfy, press a button it's stiff and sporty. And the Passat has the next gen VSC. It has a radar guided cruise control, so it will drive as fast as the car in front of it. That car brakes, you brake, that car drives faster, you drive faster. The Passat parks itself, parallel parking and reverse too. It warns you when you leave the lane without indicating. It notices when you get tired and warns you. And many more. Toyota has all these features, but will they offer them?

@0300078: Hm? What not true?

I do hope the Camry will be every bit as good as the US one... it should be, considering the price.

If the highest spec Camry has the sort of specs you'd get from a Mondeo or Passat, then it's worth considering. After all you get some benefits from driving a Toyota. I'm curious, but I don't see Toyota offering good value for money here.

Those turbos (at least the ones from Ford and VW that I have driven) do have some lag... so under 2000 there is not much going on, then it shoots forward. Can be dangerous, but it's a big laugh to feel the turbo kick in. DSG is also very nice, however remember that it will still roll back when in D. I think it should have a hill start assist thing where you have to press the brakes hard, then the car applies the brakes until you touch the accelerator. It's different from a normal auto though.

I trust VW more than Kia, for now, especially because of their SC. I'd also scratch that boring and replace it with elegant and not flashy. VWs are nice cars to sit in, and the design ages nicely, while flash can wear off fast and be outdated. The Kia cee'd I once drove also wasn't on par with the Golf which is in the same class, although it was not a bad car, not at all (only had it for a couple of days though). It was cheaper than the Golf, so it's worth considering, especially when on a budget. I simply expect the K5 to be like that. Not as good, but cheaper. Worth considering.

My not true is Camry is a total piece of dated garbage.....


Anyway among all the other D segment.... i personally prefer Ford Mondeo and Passat.

BMW 5 series is D segment also

those are seriously premium price D segment car....

But if Toyota Mark X was make available in Malaysia (brand new non recond) and with the price range of camry then it will really be a good choice.

You can test the car. But they arent gonna offer it to just anybody. U gotta be a serious buyer. Ive already tested the Optima about 5 or 6 times in KL and Ipoh. So if u want a test then look serious and push them for a test drive.