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 2011 Kia Optima, when will launch in Malaysia?

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Shengz
post Jan 20 2012, 05:00 PM

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LYN got no Kia SA?
Any chance we could get T-GDI 2.0 next few years or facelifted version? drool.gif



I'm drooling. drool.gif

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post Jan 20 2012, 06:29 PM

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As long as we dun get better quality fuel, gdi engines is goin to be another wish list juz like our diesel.

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post Jan 20 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(Shengz @ Jan 19 2012, 11:06 PM)

Bet you don't know there are shops to seek for korean car parts. Btw, they got website too. laugh.gif
Erm, today with internet, I bet no problem with seeking for parts, I'm thinking to start a business to source "what people can't find" stuffs/parts as I could charge premium but a little less than the dealer. Its a plan, I'm still thinking. drool.gif
why wouldnt i know wor? just go korean car mates to service lor.. if want cheaper. many of the low cost korean owners already dun care waranty and service at such places as tired to wait for some spares covered under waranty.
but you buy those over 100k korean car dun say throw away waranty meh? after 6speed gearbox mati then have to fork over 20k how?
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post Jan 20 2012, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 20 2012, 08:47 PM)
after 6speed gearbox mati then have to fork over 20k how?
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post Jan 21 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 20 2012, 02:07 AM)
After you get your car, pls come in and start a new "Sila JELES" thread kekeke...

I agree with you, and you are totally right, after 5-6 yrs the resale value will kinda even out. Already proven it with a simple calculation between a 2003 Camry and 2003 Sonata. At present value, both cars lost the same amount of money lol.... Only people who don't know how to count or are persistently ignorant will tell you about resale this and that BS.

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Mind sharing with me your calculations for both the models?
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post Jan 21 2012, 12:27 PM

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I just went to the Kia Red Cube along Federal HIghway tis morning hoping to get my 5th look at the car. I arrived at 9.45am and the showroom was supposedly opened at 8.30am. Everything open but no salesman anywhere. The cleaner came up and passed me a brochure. I waited about 30mins and he didnt show up. I checked everywhere but he was nowhere to be found.

This is the crap service that Naza provides. Really tarnishes the name of Kia. How does Naza expect to change the perception of Malaysians towards the Korean brand when they have such poorly trained sales ppl with no professionalism?? Really pisses me off. Its not just 1 showroom. Its kinda widespread! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 21 2012, 12:22 PM)
Mind sharing with me your calculations for both the models?
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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 8 2012, 05:49 AM)
Bro, you can't take two different segments to validate your statement. A young man starting out is highly unlikely to consider an old D-segment for various reasons, including high FC, high maintenance costs, higher road tax and an uncle image, among other things. A cheaper to maintain C or B segment car is more suited to them. As such, D segment cars tend to depreciate more than a B or C segment car. And, once you see the rough calculations I did below, it will change a lot of perceptions. I must admit I too was shocked at the results. Do indulge me:

Let's compare the following D segment cars:

2003 Camry 2.0 (the big backside model) New price = RM140k
2003 Sonata 2.0 New price = RM110K

2003 Camry 2.0 now = RM55k
2003 Sonata 2.0 now = RM25k

Camry's residual value = (55/140) x 100 = 39.28%, depreciation = 60.72% or RM85k
Sonata's residual value = (25/110) x 100 = 22.73%, depreciation = 77.27% or RM85k


So at the end of the day, what does it tell you? If you take away the percentages and other figures and look at the bottomline, both cars lost RM85k over a span of 9 yrs, or a flatline depreciation of RM9,444 per annum.
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His calculation is here.
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post Jan 21 2012, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Jan 20 2012, 10:51 PM)
my boss always said... "dun block ur mind, u'll go nowhere, think out of the box"...  rolleyes.gif
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how many new D segment cars you own the past 5years? did listening to you boss help with the results?
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post Jan 21 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 21 2012, 01:00 PM)
how many new D segment cars you own the past 5years? did listening to you boss help with the results?
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no, this is his boss's way of tell him,' ur idea saks and go back and redo. '
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post Jan 21 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Jan 20 2012, 10:51 PM)
my boss always said... "dun block ur mind, u'll go nowhere, think out of the box"...  rolleyes.gif
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and i wud reply... problem with everyone trying to think outside the box is no one ever thinks inside the box anymore....

that's why the fundamentals are always "attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axis".

make sense? tongue.gif
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post Jan 21 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Jan 21 2012, 03:33 PM)
and i wud reply... problem with everyone trying to think outside the box is no one ever thinks inside the box anymore....

that's why the fundamentals are always "attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axis".

make sense? tongue.gif
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post Jan 21 2012, 04:21 PM

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Depreciation of almost 80% vs depreciation of 60% call it same value... Fantastic argument... thumbup.gif
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post Jan 21 2012, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 21 2012, 04:21 PM)
Depreciation of almost 80% vs depreciation of 60% call it same value...  Fantastic argument...  thumbup.gif
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not to mention drive big bekside camry until now is still way better than the 25k jaguanata.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 21 2012, 12:27 PM)
I just went to the Kia Red Cube along Federal HIghway tis morning hoping to get my 5th look at the car. I arrived at 9.45am and the showroom was supposedly opened at 8.30am. Everything open but no salesman anywhere. The cleaner came up and passed me a brochure. I waited about 30mins and he didnt show up. I checked everywhere but he was nowhere to be found.

This is the crap service that Naza provides. Really tarnishes the name of Kia. How does Naza expect to change the perception of Malaysians towards the Korean brand when they have such poorly trained sales ppl with no professionalism?? Really pisses me off. Its not just 1 showroom. Its kinda widespread!  vmad.gif
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5 times? whats holding u back bro?

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post Jan 21 2012, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 21 2012, 12:27 PM)
I just went to the Kia Red Cube along Federal HIghway tis morning hoping to get my 5th look at the car. I arrived at 9.45am and the showroom was supposedly opened at 8.30am. Everything open but no salesman anywhere. The cleaner came up and passed me a brochure. I waited about 30mins and he didnt show up. I checked everywhere but he was nowhere to be found.

This is the crap service that Naza provides. Really tarnishes the name of Kia. How does Naza expect to change the perception of Malaysians towards the Korean brand when they have such poorly trained sales ppl with no professionalism?? Really pisses me off. Its not just 1 showroom. Its kinda widespread!  vmad.gif
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I suggest tt you head over to a reputable dealer. At least most of them take you seriously. I wouldnt waste my time wif naza branches. Some of the SA dun even attempt to understand their own product. Simple question oso cant answer. Sigh...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 21 2012, 04:48 PM)
not to mention drive big bekside camry until now is still way better than the 25k jaguanata.. brows.gif
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Base on value, the sonata will never depreciate More than a Benz E class or a 5 series... Same segment.... Good resale value yo... icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif

A Santa fe will also never depreciate more than a Toyota harrier too...

U all donna how to calculate 1... Those buy kancil is the best, max depreciation 30k... No matter how many years.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 21 2012, 08:20 PM

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Drive kancil the best, the second hand kancil lagi value lagi best.
It can brings you from point A to B, so it can get its job done, why choose bigger & pricier car?
Those who everyday talks about value, should choose either a wira or kancil.
Until today I still don't understand why they went to visit the showroom since they worry about depreciation. laugh.gif

Drive your cheap and antique car forever and don't change it if you are worry about depreciation, I'm a bit rude but I can't stand these bloody mindset.
I would like to say, "Padan muka, your whole life are fated to drive a cheap car! Yea, don't even thinking to own a ferrari, oops.. Too far, not even a Merc/BMW." whistling.gif

Calculate like a scientist, that's all you can do. People owns it, you jealous. Please jealous and keep drooling, oh and keep calculate how much does people lose every year. rclxms.gif

So, stop talking about value please. We are rich and don't mind the second hand value, we are not going to drive a T.V. or H.C. or any 80k cars whole life. rolleyes.gif
Let's talk about the driving experiences, shall we?

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post Jan 21 2012, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Shengz @ Jan 21 2012, 08:20 PM)
Drive kancil the best, the second hand kancil lagi value lagi best.
It can brings you from point A to B, so it can get its job done, why choose bigger & pricier car?
Those who everyday talks about value, should choose either a wira or kancil.
Until today I still don't understand why they went to visit the showroom since they worry about depreciation. laugh.gif

Drive your cheap and antique car forever and don't change it if you are worry about depreciation, I'm a bit rude but I can't stand these bloody mindset.
I would like to say, "Padan muka, your whole life are fated to drive a cheap car! Yea, don't even thinking to own a ferrari, oops.. Too far, not even a Merc/BMW." whistling.gif

Calculate like a scientist, that's all you can do. People owns it, you jealous. Please jealous and keep drooling, oh and keep calculate how much does people lose every year. rclxms.gif

So, stop talking about value please. We are rich and don't mind the second hand value, we are not going to drive a T.V. or H.C. or any 80k cars whole life. rolleyes.gif
Let's talk about the driving experiences, shall we?
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well said...
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post Jan 21 2012, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jan 21 2012, 12:27 PM)
I just went to the Kia Red Cube along Federal HIghway tis morning hoping to get my 5th look at the car. I arrived at 9.45am and the showroom was supposedly opened at 8.30am. Everything open but no salesman anywhere. The cleaner came up and passed me a brochure. I waited about 30mins and he didnt show up. I checked everywhere but he was nowhere to be found.

This is the crap service that Naza provides. Really tarnishes the name of Kia. How does Naza expect to change the perception of Malaysians towards the Korean brand when they have such poorly trained sales ppl with no professionalism?? Really pisses me off. Its not just 1 showroom. Its kinda widespread!  vmad.gif
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Bro , before 12 it's best for you to molest the car without ppl disturbing you. After 12pm SA will show up and bring u test drive smile.gif

Thats how Kia and Peugeot work on saturday
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post Jan 21 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 21 2012, 09:08 PM)
Bro , before 12 it's best for you to molest the car without ppl disturbing you. After 12pm SA will show up and bring u test drive smile.gif

Thats how Kia and Peugeot work on saturday
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but he went 5 times liao.. i think molest until sien already right by now?

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