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 2011 Kia Optima, when will launch in Malaysia?

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post Dec 28 2011, 11:12 AM

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Well i think ppl comparing with the basic camry/honda model with this one, lets take a mid range camry or honda with their loaded accessories and compare the prices, i think kia still about 7 - 10k cheaper

Btw, the mid spec accord VTI-L with leather seats and electronic control seats is at RM149,800. its about 6k more with alot lesser stuff.

We shouldnt take a basic spec jap make and compare with this, IMHO if optima had a basic range i guess it would be around RM130++

This post has been edited by JC999: Dec 28 2011, 11:15 AM
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post Dec 28 2011, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 28 2011, 10:20 AM)
Yes i must say the Infinity sound system is no big deal. I dont see what the hype is all about. Sounds basically the same. Is Infinity supposed to be better than JBL? Can somebody provide a ranking list of Top 10 sound systems in the world? This is 1 area im far lacking.

The rear subwoofer on the Optima is located off centre at the back. Any reason for this? Makes the rear arrangement a bit cacat if u ask me. Very noticeable.
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If you want a really good sound system it's best to pay one of the local sound tuners a visit smile.gif

I suspect one of the reasons for having the sub on one side is to free up some space for tall objects. At least this way, there is some headroom. Putting it right smack in the middle might not be as practical. Just a thought.


Added on December 28, 2011, 11:15 am
QUOTE(kevin23 @ Dec 28 2011, 10:47 AM)
Naza hv shot themselves in the foot this time around. 143k for a kia? Come on lah, u koreans are not on par with the japs yet but still price them more exp than a jap? All those specs count for nothing cause any jap maker can include them in their cars but that would mean a price hike.

No matter hw nice a car can look, it still boils down to hw strong ur brand name is, and at the moment, kia is only on par with china brands.
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Which hole did you crawl out from? Kia on par only with China brands? Maybe in your own mind on your own little island.

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post Dec 28 2011, 12:08 PM

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The previous generation Optima started from Rm99000 to Rm117000. Quite a different on the price compare to a new one.
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post Dec 28 2011, 12:38 PM

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Since the launch of the sportage, I think they have over priced the cars.

For a market like malaysia where Japanese cars are entrenched, they should have priced the car competitively. They should have brought in the low specs at a competitive price at launching to sell the car based on its looks and pricing.

Once people have accepted the car, then only bring in the higher specs as people are then willing to pay for it once it is proven.

I also suspect that the Hyundai Avante may suffer from a similar fate.

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post Dec 28 2011, 01:30 PM

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maybe MITI does not allow them to price cheap cheap car anymore.
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post Dec 28 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 28 2011, 03:17 AM)
Any response to my earlier question on the CBC and BAS for Safety? Its stated on the brochure but what does it mean? Cant be Cornering Brake Control?
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BAS i found is Brake Assist System, i guess it's part of the traction control where it applies brakes to the wheel that is slipping. CBC no idea


Added on December 28, 2011, 2:21 pm
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 28 2011, 03:20 AM)
Yes i must say the Infinity sound system is no big deal. I dont see what the hype is all about. Sounds basically the same. Is Infinity supposed to be better than JBL? Can somebody provide a ranking list of Top 10 sound systems in the world? This is 1 area im far lacking.

The rear subwoofer on the Optima is located off centre at the back. Any reason for this? Makes the rear arrangement a bit cacat if u ask me. Very noticeable.
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ACtually it is a big deal, go search some reviews on this particular system in this particular car, not just their prodcuts

I read some where hardcore haters of stock systems loved it, so much so their colleagues had to do another review just to believe what they were reading in his report.

Plus another i really like is the kick to the face to the Japs, if not for them the japs will continue giving us poor interiors lousy 1990 VVTi of a bygone era.

I have no doubt if the fuel quality if bumped up, the GDi 2.4 or even the Turbo 2.0 will see its way here

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post Dec 28 2011, 03:36 PM

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Ive just had a 2nd look at the Optima this time at PJ. Spent about 1.5 hrs there going thru every nook and corner.

As i said before, the design and specs are quite good. Now im told it has Cornering Brake Control (CBC) which is a premium feature in BMW, etc. Rear legroom is really good. Dashboard needs a bit of getting used to. Rear seats not really comfortable for taller passengers if you sit longer. Sound system doesnt sound balanced when ure in driver's seat despite adjustment. You only get the surround effect in the rear seats. Besides that not much excitement bout the Infinity sound system.

Also alot of water condensation from aircons on the floor. Never seen this much water on any other car before. Does give some doubts bout the compressor. Leather seats are not of the highest quality. The Peugeot 508 had much better leather seats for sure. But as always, i still think the price for the Optima is a tad high. If Naza had priced it at RM 139K, it would have nailed it. But alas!
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post Dec 28 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Dec 28 2011, 10:47 AM)
Naza hv shot themselves in the foot this time around. 143k for a kia? Come on lah, u koreans are not on par with the japs yet but still price them more exp than a jap? All those specs count for nothing cause any jap maker can include them in their cars but that would mean a price hike.

No matter hw nice a car can look, it still boils down to hw strong ur brand name is, and at the moment, kia is only on par with china brands.
Hey Kevin, so what car are you buying this time? Last time you were mentioning you bought a Merc CGI AMG.
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post Dec 28 2011, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 28 2011, 03:36 PM)
Ive just had a 2nd look at the Optima this time at PJ. Spent about 1.5 hrs there going thru every nook and corner.

As i said before, the design and specs are quite good. Now im told it has Cornering Brake Control (CBC) which is a premium feature in BMW, etc.
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CBC is in Kia forte 2.0 also.
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:01 PM

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just back from test drive.. not a bad car to buy.. good spec..
feel solid.. lots of electronic stuff 2 play with..
power wise.. abit underpower for 2.0 model.. the salesman told me they only will b 2.0.. zz
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Dec 28 2011, 04:01 PM)
just back from test drive.. not a bad car to buy.. good spec..
feel solid.. lots of electronic stuff 2 play with..
power wise.. abit underpower for 2.0 model.. the salesman told me they only will b 2.0.. zz
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put K&N filter then tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:20 PM

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haha. i just bought teana last yr lo.. else i will consider tis car 1..
abit butthurt..
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Dec 28 2011, 04:20 PM)
haha. i just bought teana last yr lo.. else i will consider tis car 1..
abit butthurt..
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trade in la...top up abit...change to k&n filter...then u can zoom zoom...and get good FC still biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:28 PM

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u wan buy?
tis optima gadget is almost same as merc e class.. quite fun..
the speaker quite good.. but the woofer (i think) sits on the thin board at the back.. when volumn loud abit it will vibrates gao gao.. can hear the sound lar..
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:32 PM

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who went for a test drive already?


Added on December 28, 2011, 4:33 pmhttp://paultan.org/2011/12/27/kia-optima-k5-2-0-launched-rm143888-on-the-road/

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post Dec 28 2011, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Dec 28 2011, 04:28 PM)
u wan buy?
tis optima gadget is almost same as merc e class.. quite fun..
the speaker quite good.. but the woofer (i think) sits on the thin board at the back.. when volumn loud abit it will vibrates gao gao.. can hear the sound lar..
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initially thought of buying coz predicted 140k below...now will think twice liao...stupid greedy naza...they thought they can rip off our money by juz offering gd design and car loaded with features...wat they duno is most ppl will consider whole package like maintenance, after sales service, reliability, bla bla bla...those ppl who onli look at the car alone is either they r dreaming to get the car or hv lots of money...ppl who are plan their financial properly n do alot of research will feel otherwise...
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:38 PM

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got 5 yrs unlimited warranty mar.. the salesman told me everything included except brakepad, wiper and tyre..
reliability.. really duno.. its still a kia..
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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Dec 28 2011, 04:01 PM)
just back from test drive.. not a bad car to buy.. good spec..
feel solid.. lots of electronic stuff 2 play with..
power wise.. abit underpower for 2.0 model.. the salesman told me they only will b 2.0.. zz
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bro, where did you went to test drive???
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post Dec 28 2011, 04:46 PM

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i m at muar, jhr.. its not kia official showroom..
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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Dec 28 2011, 04:38 PM)
got 5 yrs unlimited warranty mar.. the salesman told me everything included except brakepad, wiper and tyre..
reliability.. really duno.. its still a kia..
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ya reliability, after sales service, maintenance workmanship quality..all still a big question mark...i know got unlimited 5-yr warranty but i heard if u wan get ori parts need to wait quite long for cbu units...

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