But the interior lose to Sonata

I would put my money on this car solely for the Infinity sound system already

I think if they cut 3/4 off the spec list, or minimum match 1 to 1 to jap but price it 10k cheaper, it will be next best thing invented since sliced bread.

That's nothing for the standard features they are giving

definately, it's a bargain compared to anything in the same class for the same bracket.

It's a lot of car for the money.

just for the infinity audio is already much better than accord to wait out the traffic jams

No they are, we just don't get them

For this they have the GDi 2.4, and turbo 2.0

If japanese gave you the same specs at 20k premium would you say it's overkill or justified because it's japanese?

At the spec level the it's more than 7% cheaper than the 'class leader', for eg. the Inifinity sound system which if the japs offered would be a minimum 10k option, plus the high performance dampers for the suspension which are tremendously good.

They give a lot of aftermarket stuffs as standard plus being 7% cheaper.

accord same spec level as city, still worth it?

The mind create the luxury for Accord, actually is nothing special also.

This Kia has a real proper suspension system as reviewed.

Auto-leveling HID xenon headlamps

LED-daytime running lights

Leather interior, a supervision cluster and a multifunction four-spoke steering wheel with paddle shifters and controls for audio, ECO-driving, auto cruise-control. There’s also a six-CD changer audio system with an eight-speaker (not seven, as speculated) Infinity speaker system, replete with Aux, iPod and USB connectivity.

dual-zone auto air-conditioning, full-width three-piece panoramic glass sunroof, push-button start/stop, illuminated door scuff plates and USB connectivity, as well as a tailgate-mounted reversing safety camera with interior mirror LCD display monitor.

The driver gets an 8-way electronically-controlled seat with an integrated memory seat function, which retains settings for two drivers based on their seating position. In terms of safety, the car comes equipped with six airbags (dual front, front side and full length-curtain) and an electronic stability programme incorporating ABS, EBD, TCS, brake assist and hill-start assist control.

It also wears HPD (high performance dampers) as part of its suspension setup

Bloody amazing spec list, impossible the japs will match HALF the specs for 10k more money

This post has been edited by rcracer: Dec 27 2011, 11:34 PM

Japs are so full of shit with their interiors with hard plastics, they are dying in europe, NOBODY is buying jap cars.

KIA were the firsts to offer 5 years warranties on their cars, sealed for life gearboxes.

Toyota and Honda totally failed in producing a decent diesel engine, while the KIA and Hyundai came up with German beating R diesels.

They can give an Infinity audio system, panaromic glass roof.

I think it's damn clear, the japs are the ones giving peanuts for premium

You can already see the specs for the Camry, read Australian websites.

if they give the same spec, they will give a ridiculous engine like 2.5 or 3 litre V6 which nobody will buy anyways and the next inline will have half the specs and be 10k more

BAS i found is Brake Assist System, i guess it's part of the traction control where it applies brakes to the wheel that is slipping. CBC no idea

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Added on December 28, 2011, 2:21 pmACtually it is a big deal, go search some reviews on this particular system in this particular car, not just their prodcuts

I read some where hardcore haters of stock systems loved it, so much so their colleagues had to do another review just to believe what they were reading in his report.

Plus another i really like is the kick to the face to the Japs, if not for them the japs will continue giving us poor interiors lousy 1990 VVTi of a bygone era.

I have no doubt if the fuel quality if bumped up, the GDi 2.4 or even the Turbo 2.0 will see its way here

This post has been edited by rcracer: Dec 28 2011, 02:27 PM

Condensation means the system is working excellently, the cooling coil is getting really cold to have so much water condense on to it

You guys still living in dark ages comparing parts, look all parts nowadays come from china or taiwan, doesn't matter who is the buyer from Kia to Mercedes, all from the same factory.

Only difference is what your car maker specify, low med high quality. But the manafacturing will be the same machine same line different mould only.

So saying one will last longer than the other is moot

the optima is not 'new', there are already plenty of reviews of the car overseas and generally they are very good

Price how to compare with malaysia of course, what i mean is the technical aspects of the car, just the car itself just evaluate the car objectively

If the reviews are really good and they beat the japs and in malaysia is cheaper than the japs also it means it's a lot of car for your money.

This post has been edited by rcracer: Jan 6 2012, 09:32 PM

Koreans pre 2008 are the worst horrible rubbish ever produced second to the Chinese. They deserve the low price.

But since then they have improved so much even exceeding the Japan in quality and technology and styling. The vios at 74k in it's time was also pure cheap plastic push around type of car that isn't worth of that price.

On that level both were overpriced and both rubbish