If it's proven to give better reception then why not?
You want all metal phone that need spesial way holding in order to avoid dropping call?

Smartphone is still goddamn phone.It should have good phone function & good reception.
Else it's a fail phone even if it has quadcore processors.

But then people also think..

You are the one who should see a doctor. Buy phone to ____________.

1. Game
2. Online
3. Social
4. HACK

sgs,sgs2....

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Added on June 23, 2011, 11:57 pmhaha.finally u understand.if not u read again.http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1920582&st=100&p=43318701&#entry43318701

This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 23 2011, 11:57 PM

Agree, superior does not mean it's successful. That's what I also said in my previous post.

Superior or not, it depends on what a person is looking for. For me, or when smartphone started, I believe everyone was looking for a mobile computer, that works like a real computer, your laptop/notebook in the size of your palm; To date, none has come close; but the N900, it was something else; perhaps because it was actually a Tablet OS, adding in phone functionality. As with many Linux professionals/fans, they're into this device; I'm no Linux user or fan. I'm just an ordinary Windows users, but the potential and capability of the Maemo OS, is far different from other smartphone OS, especially during it's time; But it's very much incomplete, and it hardly progress or improve. Technology moves fast, now, it's already behind, too bad; but it's Desktop concept it's still something none can provide to date; probably never will as people seems to have "portrait" homescreen imprint to their mind; unless they make it flexible enough with options/choices.

Anyway, in short definition by many "pros", Maemo OS is a full-blown Linux on the mobile phone, while the rest are like scaled-down OS for mobile phones.
For me, I may look at it as a mobile running an actual Windows OS for Desktop, VS a mobile running Windows Mobile OS; which is a big difference, but may not matter to general public who just want a simple to use , low battery consumption, etc. "smartphone".
As another example: There can be "sports" version o "GTi" version or Sports car, but it's not a general choice for the general public, they want a simple to drive, low fuel consumption, comfortable car.
If someone looking for a comfortable car, fuel efficient, car, buys a sports version of the car because people say it's good; Will only end up with complains of high fuel consumption, not comfortable, etc.

Maemo6; They didn't even complete Maemo5; When it launch, it was more like "workable" version; USSD wasn't even implemented, no MMS, no contacts grouping, so many things that Nokia SHOULD'VE KNOWN and have experience with years of experience from Symbian and implemented well in Symbian. I'm surprised when I heard they were developing Maemo6 and later merging into MeeGo.
It's sad; If they can't do it, why not release it to someone who're keen to maintain in, there's so many potential people in tmo, and they done so much good job for the Maemo5.
And now MeeGo, which is so much different and many things removed, those softwares developed for Maemo5 can go down the drain as the so called Maemo6 doesn't have anymore support for it.

Well, it's just too bad; Hope Nokia will release Maemo source to those people who are keen to improve it; So many things can be done; Plus, if it can be install on a better hardware, things will again be different.

@andy for only 1 reason,M$ profit.

Windows Phone 7 just "leaked" by Stephen Elop.

Nokia's first WP7 device codenamed Sea Ray breaks loose

I bet it's because MeeGo was getting so much positive reaction, that Microsoft had to step in and "leak" some information about WP7 so people would still be interested in it.

nokia cover is matte and have no metalic or carbon fiber design.....its ok..btw the ui looks good ..didnt know that it has 1gb of ram... . . the graphic card should be enough .... . but couldnt support tegra 2 games..wait..is it the processor that make it support

Putting desktop into tiny 4" screen won't goes well with most people. If it did, it's M$ who will benefit, not Nokia.

For most people, they want a phone with simplified pc functionalities such as web surfing, copying files, viewing document whereas people who like N900 want a desktop that can make calls.

The problem with Nokia is that they are lazy. You want pc functionalities, they simply shrink the whole desktop for you. They do not think of the limitation presented with the availability of the present hardware, which is why they abandon it. Google and Apple fared better because they rip out things that currently don't work, coupled with latest in technology which work like charm. Slowly adding back the stuffs as hardware limitation become fewer and able to deliver a better user experience.

Some of the MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan functions demo - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL399857...feature=mh_lolz

no gyroscope....the more i figure out,im getting more n more disappoint..this is another yesteryear device like n8.

This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 24 2011, 01:08 AM

Launch date and price would severely affect the sales i believe



... Don't see where it would be positioned in with the price of RM2k.. SGS2 anytime for me.. tho I liked the entire concept they are aiming for.. The dying support from Nokia is worrying too..

This post has been edited by Sky.Live: Jun 24 2011, 01:13 AM

As I watched more and more video, I started to wonder.

Where is the bookmark manager for the browser? Don't tell me I have to put all my bookmarks as apps?

Although I do saw Mozilla Fennec icon in one of the videos...

If I'm not mistaken bookmark is supported.Also you can add website like speed dial in Opera.
But yes,we need more hands on video to know more about the browser.

True, actually MS can but there're many factors to consider, like processor, battery life, etc. For N900, it's Maemo5, it's not a new Tablet OS. But anyway, it's something not "refined" like you said.

I don't think Apple will add the feature as they could've done much more, it's more like they "want" to limit and restrict and control. It's easier to control and have less problems if you have control and restrictions.
For Google, the OS originally was not from Google anyway, and it didn't start out as a full-blown OS.
For MS, the Windows Mobile, since Pocket PC era, was never a real Windows OS, but a scaled-down OS; There's the Windows CE which is more powerful?

Anyway, as for Maemo, I think this team is not so much related to Nokia; Maybe it's part of Nokia, the phone functionality implemented, seems have no Nokia experience in it; If there's no Nokia branding, one might not know it's Nokia?
What I would say is, instead of ripping out things, they could TURN OFF the feature as default; It's up to the user to decide to unlock and use each feature.
When N900 first launch, the root was locked; To unlock this, users need to decide to take the "Red Pill" to enable Root Access.

So far, we have many SIMPLIFIED OS, they all look and does almost the same thing. Where're the sports/performance cars?
Maemo is gone. MeeGo gone simplified. The category is closed down. As I mention in N900 thread before, they're coming up with another OS that look like iOS and Android; Why should user choose it over the BIG and FAMOUS 2?

Even for Desktop OS, we have netbook OS of Windows 7 Starter; Those who knows the limitation, will want to upgrade. Unless the person really just need it for simple usage; But smartphone, netbook, laptop, will have many types of users; There will be users who demand more, or eventually will demand more as they advance themselves. Just like people who use a normal phone, then starts with smartphone, they slowly learn and use/utilize more, and then they will question how come it cannot do what my computer can do. (e.g. Why my phone cannot browse like my PC?... and slowly they will discover more and want more).
People will keep moving forward, technology too; Eventually one day, smartphones will become more and more powerful, BUT, is it cannot be made available now? It can, but it's not selling well since the general public hasn't reach that stage and the OS is not well implemented (e.g. made simple with advance features as options to be turn on).

As many VERY POWERFUL software, they made it EASY for beginner to pick up and use, at the same time, it is VERY POWERFUL for power users/profesionals. For smartphone OS, they need to apply the same concept; It doesn't have down-scale and make the OS a low end simple OS, but they can make it EASY and SIMPLE to use for any beginner, at the same time, at the hands of advance/power users or profesionals, they can utlize it. This way, it can fit an users, and beginner can slowly advance and move on.

good point,i would like to make conclusion for this statement.User frenly,mass market,profit.

Nerds rejoice! There are still terminal fun in N9.
Root is enabled by enabling developers mode.



@Andy214
Looking at this video Nokia did sort of implement what you said earlier.There are advanced functions in N9 but it's turned off by default.Advanced users can turn it on.
Now if only widgets supported....

Suddenly N9 looks extra attractive to me

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 02:22 AM

widget?widget thing is very subjective.like the touch wiz3.0-4.0 is unnecessary at all.the home screen n the menu,cant see any different.but htc sense is doing great job(its still depends on personal preferences,some hate it).

Lolz guys..virtual key button?? Look video 1st b4 asking!! Plenty of video bout N9..Don't just look at pics!! Just keep it simple..No need key can remove la..Sorry guys but some1 too lazy la..haha

Let's hope so; Hopefully the OS is very flexible and customizable, and maybe they can implement a proper homescreen or Desktop; It'll be nice if the Desktop can be preference of Portrait or Landscape, which can prevent people who are not "accustomed" to Landscape mode.
Anyway, as long as it's open and flexible/customizable, I'm sure there will be many amazing developers provide many useful softwares and customization for it, just like Maemo5.

As this OS, the good point: it seems more properly implemented and more complete, seems stable compared to Maemo5, and the social networks integration supposedly is well implemented now.
Overall, it looks positive; but will see how things turn out when it's actually launch especially when the Mango looks good too. WebOS looks great too, but the device design is a real turn off

Nokia pretty much covered all basics with MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan.Inclusion of WiFi hotspot is a real surprise.
N950 already started shipping to selected developers.
Now if only Myriad Alien Dalvik demo some Android games in N9 it'll be good.

Honestly speaking I think WP7 Mango will have more less same amount of feature as MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan but with worse UI.So far the developers reception on WP7 has been so-so.This won't change anytime soon.Time will tell whether the addition of Nokia as WP7 manufacturer encourage devs to support WP7.
Microsoft definitely gained a lot by having Nokia as WP7 manufacturer but will Nokia have any significant gain with this partnership?With less income from their regular value added services they have to expect sale of high volume of devices for high profit.Can they do it?
By looking @ Sea Ray it's not likely.Since there's little change from other WP7 devices made by other manufacturers,some users might just go for other WP7 familiar device.
But all is not lost.There is still few more months before Nokia World.If Elop just present the similar thing then I'm afraid that even a WP7 with physical keyboard won't save the day for Nokia.

Also Nokia better hope that Microsoft keep updating the OS fast enough.In the past with Symbian or Maemo if there are performance issue or lack of functions users can use custom rom or modify the OS slightly to suit their need.But by going for closed source there won't be any such privileges.Can the regular Nokia users who got used to be in control of their device get used to this?

I just dislike the WP7.Just consist of wall of boxes.Plus the childish fonts

I like webOS a lot even though it's closed source.Even Eiraku loves it.Very polished OS but as you say their device design is really bad.They have decent developers support too.Thank god for that else Maemo5 users would have been stuck with playing Angry Birds forever.Another issue with webOS is the availability of their device.It's hard find webOS device here.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jun 24 2011, 03:23 AM