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 Digital TV Station Malaysia, How do I tune to digital TV station?

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post Dec 19 2017, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Dec 19 2017, 11:20 AM)
Your nearer transmitter site is Bukit Sungai Besi. Try a cheap indoor antenna first to see the state of the signal. If that doesn't work try one of those amplified indoor antennas (Greentek brand recommended). Best to get outdoor antenna.
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okay, let me try with cheap antenna.. thanks
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post Dec 19 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Dec 19 2017, 11:07 AM)
For now I think it's safe to say condo/apartment central antennas don't support digital TV. Try plugging in a cheap RM2 indoor antenna first, and through manual scan see the state of the signal first (assuming you don't live far from the nearest transmitter). Where do you live?
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Cheap RM2 indoor antenna??? Where can I buy it?
LOL. Got so cheap one meh?
How does it look like?
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post Dec 19 2017, 04:28 PM

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TV3 HD is testing Dolby Digital Plus 3/2.1 again. Its audio quality is better than HE-AAC but still far from Astro HD channels if you have 5.1 setup.
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post Dec 19 2017, 05:07 PM

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Cheap RM2 indoor antenna??? Where can I buy it?
LOL. Got so cheap one meh?
How does it look like?
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Kedai Dua Ringgit lah. The usual two element telescopic antenna. Supermarkets sell them for far more expensive.
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post Dec 19 2017, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Dec 19 2017, 04:28 PM)
TV3 HD is testing Dolby Digital Plus 3/2.1 again. Its audio quality is better than HE-AAC but still far from Astro HD channels if you have 5.1 setup.
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That's nice. Too bad EPG for it and 2 other channels still missing.
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post Dec 19 2017, 06:06 PM

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Yup, its back! Thanks truelife for this tip.

EPG for TV3 HD can be easily copied from TV3 since it is a full time simulcast. Hope that Media Prima can stop SD simulcast for TV3 and broadcast HD version as default on 103 after test period ends. The current arrangement on 105 discourages HD viewing since certain viewers will just press "103" to view TV3.
Astro is more worse because viewer had to pay for HD and had to remember the position of HD channels although Astro does advertises HD LCN frequently during promos but IMHO they should have 1 LCN for all HD and SD simulcast channels since Astro has ultimate control on their set top boxes. For example, viewers should type 104 or 701 rather than 123 or 721for HD Ria HD AXN for HD viewers. SD/legacy box viewers will get 104 and 701 in SD.

FYI, the time/clock on MYTV system has been recently fixed.

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post Dec 19 2017, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Dec 19 2017, 11:07 AM)
For now I think it's safe to say condo/apartment central antennas don't support digital TV. Try plugging in a cheap RM2 indoor antenna first, and through manual scan see the state of the signal first (assuming you don't live far from the nearest transmitter). Where do you live?
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I can use my condo master antenna to receive digital TV channels. FYI, my condo is within 15km from KL Tower. Signal quality is only 60% so it is very unstable whenever there is human or object movement near the TV.

However, when I connect my TV with an external antenna (cheap antenna below RM10 bought from hypermarket), signal quality stabilizes at 95%-100%.
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post Dec 19 2017, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Dec 19 2017, 10:47 PM)
I can use my condo master antenna to receive digital TV channels. FYI, my condo is within 15km from KL Tower. Signal quality is only 60% so it is very unstable whenever there is human or object movement near the TV.

However, when I connect my TV with an external antenna (cheap antenna below RM10 bought from hypermarket), signal quality stabilizes at 95%-100%.
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Your condo, how many years old already? Newly built ones? As far as I know, most condo's master antennas system for receiving terrestrial TV are mainly on analogue TV signals instead. I'm not sure if there's any condos out there, where their centralised system has native support receiving digital TV signals.
If yours can receive digital TV signals, you should be able to get strong signals reading, but I do wonder why is it 60% hmm.gif
Perhaps did you try receiving analogue TV from your condo's master antenna? It could be just a coincidence that it can receive the signals, or maybe your condo's master antenna has some other technical issues.

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post Dec 19 2017, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 19 2017, 11:06 PM)
Your condo, how many years old already? Newly built ones? As far as I know, most condo's master antennas system for receiving terrestrial TV are mainly on analogue TV signals instead. I'm not sure if there's any condos out there, where their centralised system has native support receiving digital TV signals.
If yours can receive digital TV signals, you should be able to get strong signals reading, but I do wonder why is it 60% hmm.gif
Perhaps did you try receiving analogue TV from your condo's master antenna? It could be just a coincidence that it can receive the signals, or maybe your condo's master antenna has some other technical issues.
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FYI, my condo has been completed for 8 years. The master antenna on the roof top of my condo is for analogue channels. Anyway, I can receive both analogue and digital TV channels using the master antenna but the signal quality for digital TV channels is around 60%-65%. Sometimes I can even receive digital TV channels using the centralized Astro antenna in my condo, and the signal quality is weak, about 50%-60%. Only when I use an external antenna, the signal quality for digital channels boosts to 95%-100%.

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post Dec 19 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Dec 19 2017, 11:27 PM)
FYI, my condo has been completed for 8 years. The master antenna on the roof top of my condo is for analogue channels. Anyway, I can receive both analogue and digital TV channels using the master antenna but the signal quality for digital TV channels is around 60%-65%. Sometimes I can even receive digital TV channels using the centralized Astro antenna in my condo, and the signal quality is weak, about 50%-60%. Only when I use an external antenna, the signal quality for digital channels boosts to 95%-100%.
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Even the signal from Astro centralised dish also weak?
That could possibly means your condo's master antenna is "not really in good condition"... It could be faulty system, or they use too splitters which splits the cables connection to many units of your condo, causing signal to degrade.
Usually if this happens, use a signal amplifier could help.
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post Dec 20 2017, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 19 2017, 11:56 PM)
Even the signal from Astro centralised dish also weak?
That could possibly means your condo's master antenna is "not really in good condition"... It could be faulty system, or they use too splitters which splits the cables connection to many units of your condo, causing signal to degrade.
Usually if this happens, use a signal amplifier could help.
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I guess you misunderstood my statement.

I mentioned that I tried to use a coaxial cable to connect my TV to the Astro port (centralised Astro antenna) to receive MYTV channels, not Astro channels. By doing this, I can sometimes still receive digital TV channels, but the signal quality is rather weak and unstable.
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post Dec 20 2017, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Dec 20 2017, 12:14 AM)
I guess you misunderstood my statement.

I mentioned that I tried to use a coaxial cable to connect my TV to the Astro port (centralised Astro antenna) to receive MYTV channels, not Astro channels. By doing this, I can sometimes still receive digital TV channels, but the signal quality is rather weak and unstable.
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Oh my bad. Do you have a dedicated wall socket port meant for terrestrial TV? Did you try to connect and see how's the signal reception like?
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post Dec 20 2017, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Dec 19 2017, 10:47 PM)
I can use my condo master antenna to receive digital TV channels. FYI, my condo is within 15km from KL Tower. Signal quality is only 60% so it is very unstable whenever there is human or object movement near the TV.

However, when I connect my TV with an external antenna (cheap antenna below RM10 bought from hypermarket), signal quality stabilizes at 95%-100%.
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That I think is because the signal is strong enough such that the cable itself probably became an antenna. That would explain why the relative weak signal, and also the ability to receive DTT signal via connection meant for satellite. Remember the days where in some places analog TV signal was so strong people could use metal coathangers or even pan lids as antennas? 😁

Most condos / flats either have faulty (as in malfunctioning or not properly configured) central antenna system or simply have their boosters that "filter out" digital signals, hence the earlier generalisation.

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post Dec 20 2017, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Dec 20 2017, 06:32 AM)
That I think is because the signal is strong enough such that the cable itself probably became an antenna. That would explain why the relative weak signal, and also the ability to receive DTT signal via connection meant for satellite. Remember the days where in some places analog TV signal was so strong people could use metal coathangers or even pan lids as antennas? 😁

Most condos / flats either have faulty (as in malfunctioning or not properly configured) central antenna system  or simply have their boosters that "filter out" digital signals, hence the earlier generalisation.
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This let me remember that I had tried to use phone chargers/window hangers as a TV antenna. Being living close to Gunung Pulai transmitter, such antenna generates a viewable signal to watch TV. As my house MATV is down during daytime for unknown reasons (it does not filter any signals), I can still receive sharp TV3 and NTV7 because of strong signal. Other analog channels are either too weak or even have no signal. DTT is not even receivable due to weak signal. In some very strong areas, it is even possible to receive TV signal via TV antenna lead. I have tried that on my Aunt's house in KL in the past (around 8 years ago) and it was possible to give a viewable snowy colour picture for some local channels. (they only use Astro and do not even connect their TV to an antenna)
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post Dec 20 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 20 2017, 01:16 AM)
Oh my bad. Do you have a dedicated wall socket port meant for terrestrial TV? Did you try to connect and see how's the signal reception like?
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I have the standardized triplex FM/TV/Sat wall socket provided in condo. The TV antenna port in the wall triplex socket is to connect master antenna meant for analogue terrestrial TV signal.

QUOTE(9M-MAS @ Dec 20 2017, 06:32 AM)
That I think is because the signal is strong enough such that the cable itself probably became an antenna. That would explain why the relative weak signal, and also the ability to receive DTT signal via connection meant for satellite. Remember the days where in some places analog TV signal was so strong people could use metal coathangers or even pan lids as antennas? 😁

Most condos / flats either have faulty (as in malfunctioning or not properly configured) central antenna system  or simply have their boosters that "filter out" digital signals, hence the earlier generalisation.
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Your remark is spot on. As my condo is not too far from the nearest transmitter (< 15km) and I stay on a high floor, digital TV reception is strong enough even just a simple coaxial cable.

I have tried to connect my TV (with built-in DVB-T2) using a few methods:
1) Master TV antenna in the wall triplex socket
2) Centralized Astro antenna in the wall triplex socket
3) Cheap indoor rabbit ear antenna
4) A simple coaxial cable plugging into TV and another end placing towards windows

All methods above manage to receive digital TV signal, but of course with different degree of signal strength and signal quality. Method no. (3) is the best with both signal strength and signal quality boosted to above 90%.
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anyone stay in bdr puteri klang or nearest? my tv has built in DVB-T2 but cannot received channel using indoor antenna..isit due to more than 50km from the transmitter? is it worth to install fish bone antenna to get free digital tv in case my astrok down when raining?
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QUOTE(m4fias @ Dec 20 2017, 02:49 PM)
anyone stay in bdr puteri klang or nearest? my tv has built in DVB-T2 but cannot received channel using indoor antenna..isit due to more than 50km from the transmitter? is it worth to install fish bone antenna to get free digital tv in case my astrok down when raining?
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I think you should consider outdoor antenna, since the distance is pretty far away.
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post Dec 21 2017, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(joshhd @ Dec 20 2017, 05:46 PM)
I think you should consider outdoor antenna, since the distance is pretty far away.
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indeed..since the distance is far far away. or should i buy indoor receiver antenna with high dbi?

transmitter kl menara & sg besi is more than 50km from my home.
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QUOTE(m4fias @ Dec 21 2017, 09:03 AM)
indeed..since the distance is far far away. or should i buy indoor receiver antenna with high dbi?

transmitter kl menara & sg besi is more than 50km from my home.
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Just get the outdoor antenna. It's worth the money and hassle.
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QUOTE(m4fias @ Dec 21 2017, 09:03 AM)
indeed..since the distance is far far away. or should i buy indoor receiver antenna with high dbi?

transmitter kl menara & sg besi is more than 50km from my home.
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Hmm no... Still outdoor antenna is better.
Indoor antenna is suitable if your location is around 30km or less away from transmitter.

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