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 PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V13

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post Jul 23 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(naruto_kun @ Jul 23 2011, 12:52 PM)
I had driven the car before quite recently...to be frank, pick up is much better compare to 1.3 at. A better car overall in city + highway driving. It felt smoother, less rubber band effect, and tbh, not as slugish as i would have thought. smile.gif
Definitely waja is a better cruiser. Overall feel alo a different class. Firm and more stable ride. Better in cornering as well tongue.gif.  But i think you should try the FLX as well before decide if you are looking for a band new car.
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I'm not looking for a brand new car. I'm looking at two second hand cars, one is a 2006 Waja Enhance and another is a 2008 BLM. Both is auto. I have a very lazy left foot. I'm very attracted to the Waja, but I'm concerned about the age of the car. =\

Perhaps I'll go check the FLX out tomorrow.

QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 12:53 PM)
heavy steering maybe help in highway drive
no more shaking steering like old myvi
new myvi equipped with EPS, will better?
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depends on the EPS set up, some electric steering offers lesser feedback and featherweight steering compared to the conventional hydraulic set up.

QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 23 2011, 01:36 PM)

The only drawback is the loud engine drone at 4k RPM. I'm perfectly okay with the NVH. Even managed to have a good conversation with my friend along the way icon_idea.gif

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nah, its ok with the NVH. Honda cars aren't that quiet either. I'm already used to it.
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post Jul 23 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 03:16 PM)
I'm not looking for a brand new car. I'm looking at two second hand cars, one is a 2006 Waja Enhance and another is a 2008 BLM. Both is auto. I have a very lazy left foot. I'm very attracted to the Waja, but I'm concerned about the age of the car. =\
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waja enhance?...what engine is it using??
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post Jul 23 2011, 03:20 PM

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the model before Proton put in the S4PH in. Still using the Mitsu 4G18.
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post Jul 23 2011, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 03:20 PM)
the model before Proton put in the S4PH in. Still using the Mitsu 4G18.
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hmm...both also good
waja without lotus handling also feels good
it depends which one u wants
but for me i'd take the newer car because lesser problems
it also depends on the mileage

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jul 23 2011, 03:25 PM
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post Jul 23 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 23 2011, 03:24 PM)
hmm...both also good
waja without lotus handling also feels good
it depends which one u wants
but for me i'd take the newer car because lesser problems
it also depends on the mileage
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yea, thats why I am scratching my head like mad now.

The older car with 70k km is better equipped with airbags and ABS etc.

The saga only done 30k km and the only advantage it has over the waja is its age, so lesser things to worry about.
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post Jul 23 2011, 03:34 PM

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CVT/MT both have better fc compare to previous AT/MT
i think MT they changed gearbox also
maybe rpm will lover
since japan company dun let proton change gear ratio and now they changed AUS gearbox so can adjust GR as proton like.haha

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 03:29 PM)
yea, thats why I am scratching my head like mad now.

The older car with 70k km is better equipped with airbags and ABS etc.

The saga only done 30k km and the only advantage it has over the waja is its age, so lesser things to worry about.
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oh....if u say like that thn for sure i take saga
the waja is 70k KM...mean it's very near to super major service already

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 03:34 PM)
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CVT/MT both have better fc compare to previous AT/MT
i think MT they changed gearbox also
maybe rpm will lover
since japan company dun let proton change gear ratio and now they changed AUS gearbox so can adjust GR as proton like.haha
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the aichi kikai g/box is actually damn nice.

which AUS g/box you talking about?

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post Jul 23 2011, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 23 2011, 04:41 PM)
the aichi kikai g/box is actually damn nice.
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Really? I thought everyone says it has a bad, rubbery feel? sweat.gif (It's my first manual car so I'm okay with it)
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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 23 2011, 05:00 PM)
Really? I thought everyone says it has a bad, rubbery feel? sweat.gif (It's my first manual car so I'm okay with it)
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Feel is rubbery, ratio is brows.gif
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post Jul 23 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 03:20 PM)
the model before Proton put in the S4PH in. Still using the Mitsu 4G18.
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waja enhanced version? the one with 16" wheel & airbag?, i'm driving one, but its 2004 model rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 23 2011, 05:41 PM)
the aichi kikai g/box is actually damn nice.

which AUS g/box you talking about?

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aichi kikai gb nice meh?GR too high,very noise 120kmh@4000rpm rclxub.gif
but of course in term of power, is 100% thumbup.gif
the AUS gb may be come from ZF?
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post Jul 23 2011, 06:53 PM

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Hi everyone, I'm new to this thread wave.gif
I bought my BLM last October and I have a question. Is there a way for me to seal off the air cond intake?
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QUOTE(boris @ Jul 23 2011, 06:53 PM)
Hi everyone, I'm new to this thread wave.gif
I bought my BLM last October and I have a question. Is there a way for me to seal off the air cond intake?
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why? rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 03:34 PM)
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CVT/MT both have better fc compare to previous AT/MT
i think MT they changed gearbox also
maybe rpm will lover
since japan company dun let proton change gear ratio and now they changed AUS gearbox so can adjust GR as proton like.haha
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Seems like after tis no more Saga FL...same like BLM after FL was born....

But that guys from mudah qoute 38K?? rclxub.gif

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post Jul 23 2011, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Jul 23 2011, 07:03 PM)
why? rclxub.gif
The smoke from outside will get inside my car and this makes me feel sick whenever I pass by factories/open burning area. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(boris @ Jul 23 2011, 06:53 PM)
Hi everyone, I'm new to this thread wave.gif
I bought my BLM last October and I have a question. Is there a way for me to seal off the air cond intake?
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what do u mean seal off the air con intake??
air intake or aircon intake?


Added on July 23, 2011, 7:24 pm
QUOTE(boris @ Jul 23 2011, 07:17 PM)
The smoke from outside will get inside my car and this makes me feel sick whenever I pass by factories/open burning area. icon_question.gif
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oh...this is nt seal aircon intake
this is setting it to "circulating"
there are 3 dial..right?
the 3rd right..the far right one....turn clockwise to the right side

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post Jul 23 2011, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 03:34 PM)
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CVT/MT both have better fc compare to previous AT/MT
i think MT they changed gearbox also
maybe rpm will lover
since japan company dun let proton change gear ratio and now they changed AUS gearbox so can adjust GR as proton like.haha
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i feel butthurt liao......

less then 1 mth i got my FL 1.6 AT...... come out this CVT and abs.

anyone wanna buy my car? milage 3k. serviced with shell helix ultra.

price rm 40k ono
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post Jul 23 2011, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(barnhammer @ Jul 23 2011, 08:39 PM)
i feel butthurt liao......

less then 1 mth i got my FL 1.6 AT...... come out this CVT and abs.

anyone wanna buy my car? milage 3k. serviced with shell helix ultra.

price rm 40k ono
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your car is better than the ones with CVT and ABS la...keep it
the CVT and ABS is for 1.3L
if u want the 1.6L with CVT and ABS...have to wait till end of year
and i repeat the 1.6L is way better....CVT and ABS doesn't add HP and solve the underpower problem
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post Jul 23 2011, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 12:30 PM)
they spend money for their "luxury car" but has no confidence in it. laugh.gif

Anyways, I would like to know how the Saga feels when outstation travelling. I'll be travelling across states most of the time and that Myvi with its sampan characteristic and also light steering (Thanks, Toyota, lol) is a definite no no for me. Normally on highways I'll do 100-130km/h most of the time.

My current Japanese Brand car has since been returned to my friend because it has a lot of problems like cracked wheel bearing and a slightly crooked driveshaft. Now considering between a second hand 08' Saga and 06' Waja. Both are RM30k.
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I travel between kl and northern region, i clock about 1k km a week laugh.gif

its quite alright la the saga BLM, just that need to do some improvements like anti roll bar, strut bars etc, else the feel for the rear of the car is somewhat like a vios at high speeds (above 100kmph)






QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 12:53 PM)
heavy steering maybe help in highway drive
no more shaking steering like old myvi
new myvi equipped with EPS, will better?


Added on July 23, 2011, 12:54 pm
1.3 blm AT really underpower@@ icon_question.gif
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1.3blm at is not really under powered, just that it needs to be revved harder say 4krpm~5k rpm for over taking cars, which is easily done by dropping the gear manually.


Added on July 23, 2011, 9:00 pm
QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 23 2011, 08:56 PM)
your car is better than the ones with CVT and ABS la...keep it
the CVT and ABS is for 1.3L
if u want the 1.6L with CVT and ABS...have to wait till end of year
and i repeat the 1.6L is way better....CVT and ABS doesn't add HP and solve the underpower problem
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but i still feel butt hurt..... cvt is naise... only if proton got the ratio correct for highway. as for abs... i tend to slam brakes and whack corners pretty hard ( bad habit from my tiara tongue.gif) so its better if i dont have to skid a lil tongue.gif

the salesman didnt tell me, else i could have waited till end of the year for the 1.6 with cvt + abs...

now my tiara sitting in the car porch everyday doing nothing ( except weekends where i take it out and whack red line tongue.gif)

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post Jul 23 2011, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(barnhammer @ Jul 23 2011, 08:58 PM)
I travel between kl and northern region, i clock about 1k km a week laugh.gif

its quite alright la the saga BLM, just that need to do some improvements like anti roll bar, strut bars etc, else the feel for the rear of the car is somewhat like a vios at high speeds (above 100kmph)

the salesman didnt tell me, else i could have waited till end of the year for the 1.6 with cvt + abs...

now my tiara sitting in the car porch everyday doing nothing ( except weekends where i take it out and whack red line tongue.gif)
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well...the rear feels like vios is because the back have nothing in it...too light
2 ways...add anti roll bar or add some weight into it...throw something into the boot

i agree...yes...CVT will have lower RPM on highway
but am still not sure ave how many gear ..rumored 6 spd
inspira's CVT 120KM/H is only at 2K RPM
if this happen in saga...the NVH would improve alot

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