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 PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V13

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MR_alien
post Jul 23 2011, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Jul 23 2011, 12:08 PM)
I feel thats its heavy not because the resistance or what, its more like its due to the feedback to auto center the steering wheel. Maybe the car still too new, belum marinate cukup cukup . 1 hand wheel driving is still OK. Its heavy only when idle, or u trying to move fwd from stationary. Other than that, feels exactly like any other FL.

I couldntt really test the CVT, as its a display unit. Cannot stress it too much sweat.gif

Anyway seems like all 2001 onwards proton cars fixed that roof glue rusting problem liao. Can get it without any worries already.
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i think it's normal to be harder when idle or stationary
when the car starts moving...it tend to be more easy to steer


Added on July 23, 2011, 12:17 pm
QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 12:14 PM)
agreed.

it gives more feedback and more confident to corner faster. And to prevent the car to "wobble" when driving with one hand.

some japanese brand car has steering so light that I actually "wobble" the car left and right since most of the time I hold the steering wheel at the 3 o clock position only. Then I see all cars will be trailing me with a space to put in a Mercedes S600 Pullman. sweat.gif
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toyota is the best example
their steering feels so light...it feels nothing
u can see their driver always drives with 2 hand tightly wrapped at the steering wheel

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post Jul 23 2011, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 12:14 PM)
agreed.

it gives more feedback and more confident to corner faster. And to prevent the car to "wobble" when driving with one hand.

some japanese brand car has steering so light that I actually "wobble" the car left and right since most of the time I hold the steering wheel at the 3 o clock position only. Then I see all cars will be trailing me with a space to put in a Mercedes S600 Pullman. sweat.gif
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i've tried 150 in a nissan grand livina.

never will repeat the same mistake
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 23 2011, 12:20 PM)
i've tried 150 in a nissan grand livina.

never will repeat the same mistake
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Why?? U crashed the car??? laugh.gif
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 23 2011, 12:16 PM)
toyota is the best example
their steering feels so light...it feels nothing
u can see their driver always drives with 2 hand tightly wrapped at the steering wheel
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they spend money for their "luxury car" but has no confidence in it. laugh.gif

Anyways, I would like to know how the Saga feels when outstation travelling. I'll be travelling across states most of the time and that Myvi with its sampan characteristic and also light steering (Thanks, Toyota, lol) is a definite no no for me. Normally on highways I'll do 100-130km/h most of the time.

My current Japanese Brand car has since been returned to my friend because it has a lot of problems like cracked wheel bearing and a slightly crooked driveshaft. Now considering between a second hand 08' Saga and 06' Waja. Both are RM30k.




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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 12:30 PM)
they spend money for their "luxury car" but has no confidence in it. laugh.gif

Anyways, I would like to know how the Saga feels when outstation travelling. I'll be travelling across states most of the time and that Myvi with its sampan characteristic and also light steering (Thanks, Toyota, lol) is a definite no no for me. Normally on highways I'll do 100-130km/h most of the time.

My current Japanese Brand car has since been returned to my friend because it has a lot of problems like cracked wheel bearing and a slightly crooked driveshaft. Now considering between a second hand 08' Saga and 06' Waja. Both are RM30k.
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try saga...or if u can a bigger car like persona or waja(CPS)
no problem doing fast on highway....
because they are built specially for highway thanks to the heavy body and lotus handling
saga...for sure will feel underpower because like i said...heavy body

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post Jul 23 2011, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 23 2011, 12:28 PM)
Why?? U crashed the car???  laugh.gif
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i was literally flying

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 01:30 PM)
they spend money for their "luxury car" but has no confidence in it. laugh.gif

Anyways, I would like to know how the Saga feels when outstation travelling. I'll be travelling across states most of the time and that Myvi with its sampan characteristic and also light steering (Thanks, Toyota, lol) is a definite no no for me. Normally on highways I'll do 100-130km/h most of the time.

My current Japanese Brand car has since been returned to my friend because it has a lot of problems like cracked wheel bearing and a slightly crooked driveshaft. Now considering between a second hand 08' Saga and 06' Waja. Both are RM30k.
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saga MT quite powerful at highway
no sampan feel like MYVI did
Thx to lotus ride and hanling
but..........engine sound is quite lounder than myvi shakehead.gif
the cheapest way to cover it is open radio kuatkuat blush.gif


Added on July 23, 2011, 12:52 pm
QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 23 2011, 12:49 PM)
The normal BLM/FL's steering is already quite heavy sweat.gif I wonder if this will put off women drivers hmm.gif
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women just go for viva or myvi
hahahaha biggrin.gif
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actually women who drive big car quite "special" brows.gif

This post has been edited by sg999: Jul 23 2011, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Jul 23 2011, 12:08 PM)
I feel thats its heavy not because the resistance or what, its more like its due to the feedback to auto center the steering wheel. Maybe the car still too new, belum marinate cukup cukup . 1 hand wheel driving is still OK. Its heavy only when idle, or u trying to move fwd from stationary. Other than that, feels exactly like any other FL.

I couldntt really test the CVT, as its a display unit. Cannot stress it too much sweat.gif

Anyway seems like all 2001 onwards proton cars fixed that roof glue rusting problem liao. Can get it without any worries already.
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I had driven the car before quite recently...to be frank, pick up is much better compare to 1.3 at. A better car overall in city + highway driving. It felt smoother, less rubber band effect, and tbh, not as slugish as i would have thought. smile.gif

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 12:30 PM)
they spend money for their "luxury car" but has no confidence in it. laugh.gif

Anyways, I would like to know how the Saga feels when outstation travelling. I'll be travelling across states most of the time and that Myvi with its sampan characteristic and also light steering (Thanks, Toyota, lol) is a definite no no for me. Normally on highways I'll do 100-130km/h most of the time.

My current Japanese Brand car has since been returned to my friend because it has a lot of problems like cracked wheel bearing and a slightly crooked driveshaft. Now considering between a second hand 08' Saga and 06' Waja. Both are RM30k.
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Definitely waja is a better cruiser. Overall feel alo a different class. Firm and more stable ride. Better in cornering as well tongue.gif. But i think you should try the FLX as well before decide if you are looking for a band new car.
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Jul 23 2011, 12:53 PM)
well, im the first test driver for this car, so i wonder is it because the car has not break in yet. Maybe the car too new so the parts not very well "marinated" haha...

The steering is not as light as the Iswara and the Inspira as a reference for those who havent own a Saga.

Still manageable la, I think women drivers can still manage it. Its heavy because of the feedback I think. Dunno how to explain hahaha
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heavy steering maybe help in highway drive
no more shaking steering like old myvi
new myvi equipped with EPS, will better?


Added on July 23, 2011, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(naruto_kun @ Jul 23 2011, 01:52 PM)
I had driven the car before quite recently...to be frank, pick up is much better compare to 1.3 at. A better car overall in city + highway driving. It felt smoother, less rubber band effect, and tbh, not as slugish as i would have thought. smile.gif
Definitely waja is a better cruiser. Overall feel alo a different class. Firm and more stable ride. Better in cornering as well tongue.gif.  But i think you should try the FLX as well before decide if you are looking for a band new car.
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1.3 blm AT really underpower@@ icon_question.gif

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post Jul 23 2011, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 12:50 PM)
women just go for viva or myvi
hahahaha biggrin.gif
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actually women who drive big car quite "special" brows.gif
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o'really?
thn u come sabah...alot here
hilux, land cruiser, V35, fairlady..all big cars
but still quiet alot driving myvi and viva
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 23 2011, 01:02 PM)
o'really?
thn u come sabah...alot here
hilux, land cruiser, V35, fairlady..all big cars
but still quiet alot driving myvi and viva
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Sabah no choice lar....have to go off road if need to travel to some places, of course need big car, Viva/Myvi can only be used in town. My wife's from Sabah. Kolombong is my 2nd hometown. Will be going there in October again..smile.gif

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http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Saga+FLX+less+D...LP-10746056.htm

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post Jul 23 2011, 01:36 PM

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No, actually I really like the steering feel of this car. It's good for both highways and trunk roads. Due to this reason alone I'd rather drive my car than my mum's 2004 Hyundai Elantra for long trips. It's slightly heavy for parking but still manageable.

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 23 2011, 12:30 PM)
they spend money for their "luxury car" but has no confidence in it. laugh.gif

Anyways, I would like to know how the Saga feels when outstation travelling. I'll be travelling across states most of the time and that Myvi with its sampan characteristic and also light steering (Thanks, Toyota, lol) is a definite no no for me. Normally on highways I'll do 100-130km/h most of the time.

My current Japanese Brand car has since been returned to my friend because it has a lot of problems like cracked wheel bearing and a slightly crooked driveshaft. Now considering between a second hand 08' Saga and 06' Waja. Both are RM30k.
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I did a trip to KL and back a few weeks ago. Highway stability is excellent. I was cruising at about 120-130 km/h most of the way. GPS logged the highest speed at 155 km/h (not top speed, I could have gone faster) and it was still stable then.

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(Time of 2:48 is between Jejantas Sungai Buloh and Penang Bridge Toll)

The only drawback is the loud engine drone at 4k RPM. I'm perfectly okay with the NVH. Even managed to have a good conversation with my friend along the way icon_idea.gif

If the FLX's CVT has a ratio which does 110 km/h at about 3k RPM or lower, it'll be great.

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 23 2011, 02:36 PM)
No, actually I really like the steering feel of this car. It's good for both highways and trunk roads. Due to this reason alone I'd rather drive my car than my mum's 2004 Hyundai Elantra for long trips. It's slightly heavy for parking but still manageable.
I did a trip to KL and back a few weeks ago. Highway stability is excellent. I was cruising at about 120-130 km/h most of the way. GPS logged the highest speed at 155 km/h (not top speed, I could have gone faster) and it was still stable then.

user posted image

(Time of 2:48 is between Jejantas Sungai Buloh and Penang Bridge Toll)

The only drawback is the loud engine drone at 4k RPM. I'm perfectly okay with the NVH. Even managed to have a good conversation with my friend along the way icon_idea.gif

If the FLX's CVT has a ratio which does 110 km/h at about 3k RPM or lower, it'll be great.
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campro iafm produced very loud sound while cruising at 3500rpm above
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but damn good force and stable thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 01:42 PM)
ya
campro iafm produced very loud sound while cruising  at 3500rpm above
shocking.gif
but damn good force and stable thumbup.gif
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explains why lately my FC like shit, but fun factor >9000
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 23 2011, 02:56 PM)
explains why lately my FC like shit, but fun factor >9000
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petrol problem?ur foot problem? jam problem?
haha
my last tank jam like hell and when no jam i fly 160kmh
at the end fc is 12.5km/L
this time smooth drive and now is 13.8km/L smile.gif
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 02:26 PM)
petrol problem?ur foot problem? jam problem?
haha
my last tank jam like hell and when no jam i fly 160kmh
at the end fc is 12.5km/L
this time smooth drive and now is 13.8km/L smile.gif
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screw FC now.

achieve 400km, happy liao

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 23 2011, 01:36 PM)
No, actually I really like the steering feel of this car. It's good for both highways and trunk roads. Due to this reason alone I'd rather drive my car than my mum's 2004 Hyundai Elantra for long trips. It's slightly heavy for parking but still manageable.
I did a trip to KL and back a few weeks ago. Highway stability is excellent. I was cruising at about 120-130 km/h most of the way. GPS logged the highest speed at 155 km/h (not top speed, I could have gone faster) and it was still stable then.

user posted image

(Time of 2:48 is between Jejantas Sungai Buloh and Penang Bridge Toll)

The only drawback is the loud engine drone at 4k RPM. I'm perfectly okay with the NVH. Even managed to have a good conversation with my friend along the way icon_idea.gif

If the FLX's CVT has a ratio which does 110 km/h at about 3k RPM or lower, it'll be great.
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haha....depends on the CVT have how many gear
i heard inspira's CVT GB....120KM/H is only 2k RPM
that would be alot silent in saga


Added on July 23, 2011, 2:50 pm
QUOTE(sg999 @ Jul 23 2011, 02:26 PM)
petrol problem?ur foot problem? jam problem?
haha
my last tank jam like hell and when no jam i fly 160kmh
at the end fc is 12.5km/L
this time smooth drive and now is 13.8km/L smile.gif
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in MY...many factors la
foot problem, petrol problem, petrol station problem, tyre pressure problem, jam problem
all will affect the FC

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Saga's CVT will be able to provide that low rpm torque that's missing. Yeap acceleration is definitely better than the normal one, but don't expect any major performance boost. Ur FC should be better.
I have no idea which company manufacturer saga's CVT though. Heard is punch motor one
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QUOTE(manubis @ Jul 23 2011, 03:28 AM)
dont want to read this post for a couple of day...
feeling the butthurt already...
mine saga fl not even 6 month already got new +abs+cvt  doh.gif
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i feel you bro...my FL is three months old now....first is 1.6L version...now CVT+ABS pulak cry.gif

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