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post Oct 20 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(leadaxer @ Oct 20 2011, 10:39 AM)
Meaning, there's no sure-fire way of guaranteeing we'll get a 2012 car when bought in Jan 2012?
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There is a sure-fire way. Refer several pages back in this thread.
You can place booking now with SA, and write condition in the form, to say that you want a 2012 Manufacture car.
I did that with my previous car, booking in Oct/Nov, and get the car in late Jan, just in time for CNY.


Added on October 20, 2011, 11:08 amAdded: But please take note, that you do not get angry-bird/jumpy, if the car will be late in Feb/Mar, as this can due to:
(1) Factory really manufacture/deliver late - nothing you can do.
(2) SA hanky panky and re-allocate to others shakehead.gif

At that time, I have contact in HQ and my delivery queue is quite close (1-2 weeks late), and found out the SA reallocate to another person. HQ quickly reallocate another one to me.


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post Oct 20 2011, 12:28 PM

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In a normal scenario, it takes at least a month or two from the manufacturing date to delivery of car to customer. It will be hard to expect a Jan 2012 car in Jan 2012. So for those who plan to get a car before CNY 2012 (end of Jan), you will most probably get a 2011 car. The safest would be to book in Feb/Mar 2012 if you want to make sure that you get a same year car. Unless you feel really lucky and wouldn't mind trying what boboi did. Not everyone can be so lucky smile.gif

So if you get your 2011 car in Jan 2012, next time upon selling you will list the car as 2011/2012 which most ppl will understand what it means, and it will fetch a slightly better price than say, a March-registered 2011 car.

Year of make is important only if you plan to sell your car at the "threshold points" of automotive loans, i.e., 5, 7 or 10 yrs (just an example). Cars 5 yrs and below will be able to secure a higher loan, lower interest and longer repayment so these will have a better value than a 6yr old car.

So let's say you buy a Dec 2011 car now. If you plan to sell your car in 5 years, you need to start advertising in Oct 2015 to play it safe. If you pass Dec 2015 then your car will drop to the next rung. Remember, at the end of the day how much you can sell your car will depend on how much loan the banks are willing to offer to your potential buyer. Don't think about those rich ppl who can buy outright or who can put half the amount as downpayment. If you're lucky and you find such a buyer then good for you. If not, you must consider the bottomline as in a new buyer just starting out, instead of buying a brand new Myvi/Persona he can also consider your 5-year old Forte. This is a common sense method employed by used car dealers when asked to do an appraisal of your car.

Normally, year end cars will get more discounts or lower interest rates compared to a next year car. A lot of these interest rates are actually partly subsidised by the manufacturer themselves, in order for them to push off the remaining stocks of last year's cars. So if you got a great year end deal, you can't really complain of future selling price, right?

Also, most ppl when they sell their car they forget to deduct the insurance and other misc costs from the original selling price when calculating their "losses". For example, if you buy a car at RM50k OTR, around RM2k is the insurance portion, whereas for used cars, the asking price does not include insurance, road tax, registration fees, runner fees etc. So let's say after 5 yrs the RM50k car is now worth RM35k, the actual depreciation is RM13k and not RM15k.

If you want to enjoy a higher selling price, you should try to sell your car privately. I sold my old car personally, as well as helped my relatives sell theirs and in the process saved between RM4-8k compared to trading in to a used car dealer.
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post Oct 20 2011, 01:58 PM

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Dear all Forte owner,

I'm also a forte owner, and i got a question here require you all advices ya. ^^

Thanks in advance.

I would like to install NEFD bumper on my Forte car which attached at below.
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I saw this NEFD bumper on the road at KL area few days ago. It's so nice.

But the problem is i donno where to get it ya.

I did review on previous reply in this V10 and V11, some of they say can get it in JB around RM950. And some of they say can get it at Singapore around SGD750. But no one can speak where is the exactly place can install this bumper. ><"

Can someone here know where exactly can install this NEFD bumper in KL/Selangor area? Pls advice...

P/s: Pls PM me if you really can help me. thumbup.gif

Thanks in advance. ^^


This post has been edited by yukioli: Oct 20 2011, 02:00 PM
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post Oct 20 2011, 03:00 PM

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Thanks for d pointers boboi & gregy
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post Oct 20 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(davidyet @ Oct 20 2011, 12:37 AM)
Aiyo, why wait till 2012.
I just approve by loan and sign agreement this morning. Lol.
Since kia have low second hand value.
I don't think I'm gonna sell it. Not really care about that one year.
Most important is, I do not intend to wait.
"Wait" will make me stress, tired, no energy to work and faint.
I just make up my mind in one week then straight buy it lo. LoL!!!

1.6 sx white. Will be releasing next week.
Getting from K.S. Loh from Serdang jaya.
Very good dealer.

Coming into New member over here ^^.
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white color got stock meh?

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post Oct 20 2011, 06:48 PM

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he he thxs to anither forte owner who came to get his car done wit coil mat and boot mat


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QUOTE(Sh@rty 5 @ Oct 20 2011, 06:48 PM)
he he thxs to anither forte owner who came to get his car done wit coil mat and boot mat
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thx bro...fast & friendly service...
even got time 4 little chat...

wil do de locktech in future...
stil abit sceptical wit local product, probably wil stick 2 thai locktech...

many many thx...

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post Oct 20 2011, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Oct 18 2011, 10:45 AM)
Hi bro, I've also been mulling the idea of 16" wheels. One of my favs is the Enkei RPF-1. Some may not like it due to its short spokes but it has the looks of a serious performance wheel, plus it weighs very little, one of the most lightweight wheels you can find today. Costs a bomb though lol... There's also another 16" that I quite like, but very rare. The original 16" on the first batch of Honda Civic 2.0S. They are much nicer than the ones on the Civic 1.8. Very hard to find second hand in tyre shops.
You are my shifu d laugh.gif

Bro, if i take out spare tyre, and change lighter 17" rim, will save more? or just a little?
do u know how to calculate it?
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post Oct 21 2011, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(hwaching62 @ Oct 20 2011, 11:01 PM)
You are my shifu d laugh.gif

Bro, if i take out spare tyre, and change lighter 17" rim, will save more? or just a little?
do u know how to calculate it?
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Let's see. The spare is around 20kg. Lighter rims, if let's say 3kg per rim, multiply by two for each wheel (unsprung weight or rotational mass), so in total will be:

20 + 4(3x2) = 44kg

It's like taking a 5'3" slim girl out of your car lol...


If you want to see how many percent improvement you might get (just a rough calculation):

Original weight of car / hp:

1.6SX = 1,300 / 124
= 10.48kg / hp

2.0SX = 1,330 / 154
= 8.64kg / hp


Remove 44kg:

1.6SX = 1256 / 124
= 10.13kg / hp
= [(10.48 - 10.13) / 10.13] x 100
= 3.46% better power to weight ratio

2.0SX = 1286 / 154
= 8.35kg / hp
= [(8.64 - 8.35) / 8.35] x 100
= 3.47% better power to weight ratio

From the above theoretical (and possibly not very accurate cos my Maths sucks lol) figures, you can see that a simple reduction of static and moving mass of 44kg in total translates to around the same advantage of an aftermarket drop-in filter. Of course if you also change the filter you will gain more overall la.

Not to mention, having less weight in the boot means tighter cornering. Less weight on the wheels means better rebound rate of absorbers, i.e., the absorbers will recover faster after a bump. Simple things all add up.

At the end of the day you need to ask yourself, do you want a car that performs better than stock, or you want to play dress up? A car with nice looking but heavy rims and outrageous BK like those DAMD type (weight and wind drag) will end up slower than stock. IMO our cars don't reach the type of speeds that will benefit from further downforce lol...


Added on October 21, 2011, 2:31 am
QUOTE(yukioli @ Oct 20 2011, 01:58 PM)
Dear all Forte owner,

I'm also a forte owner, and i got a question here require you all advices ya. ^^

Thanks in advance.

I would like to install NEFD bumper on my Forte car which attached at below.
Attached Image

I saw this NEFD bumper on the road at KL area few days ago. It's so nice.

But the problem is i donno where to get it ya.

I did review on previous reply in this V10 and V11, some of they say can get it in JB around RM950. And some of they say can get it at Singapore around SGD750. But no one can speak where is the exactly place can install this bumper. ><"

Can someone here know where exactly can install this NEFD bumper in KL/Selangor area? Pls advice...

P/s: Pls PM me if you really can help me.  thumbup.gif

Thanks in advance. ^^

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This post has been edited by gregy: Oct 21 2011, 02:31 AM
hvaly
post Oct 21 2011, 09:24 AM

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but what happened if tayar puncture ? @@

no spare tyre ?
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post Oct 21 2011, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(hvaly @ Oct 21 2011, 09:24 AM)
but what happened if tayar puncture ? @@

no spare tyre ?
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Just buy a mini air compressor and keep in the boot smile.gif Today's tubeless tyres don't go flat immediately. It will slowly deflate, so if you notice it happening then quickly send it to a tyre shop or if not possible then go to the nearest petrol station to fill air first.

The only fear is a complete blowout, which is rare, but if it does happen and you don't have a spare then a bit troublesome la.

Why not like this, for normal town driving you can keep the spare at home cos chances of a blowout are super slim and in case of puncture you can easily find a petrol station or buy a mini air pump. When going outstation then put the spare back in.


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post Oct 21 2011, 10:41 AM

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Hi,
I'm planning to get a forte 1.6sx but having problem to get rid of my kelisa 1.0 manual '05 which has only 45K mileage. they only offered me RM15-16K which is pretty low.

if you have any idea where to sell off car at higher value, please do let me know. appreciate your help and own you a coffee smile.gif

will try my luck again this weekend.

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post Oct 21 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Oct 21 2011, 09:57 AM)
Just buy a mini air compressor and keep in the boot smile.gif  Today's tubeless tyres don't go flat immediately. It will slowly deflate, so if you notice it happening then quickly send it to a tyre shop or if not possible then go to the nearest petrol station to fill air first.

The only fear is a complete blowout, which is rare, but if it does happen and you don't have a spare then a bit troublesome la.

Why not like this, for normal town driving you can keep the spare at home cos chances of a blowout are super slim and in case of puncture you can easily find a petrol station or buy a mini air pump. When going outstation then put the spare back in.
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Haha, that's what i'm thinking too laugh.gif
But to change all 4 rim's to lighter i think still need to consider it, because the purpose to do that is to save my FC, but that will become another cost to change 4 lighter rims sweat.gif, maybe i can consider about 2nd one? any good advice for that?
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QUOTE(Intel@Atom @ Oct 21 2011, 10:41 AM)
if you have any idea where to sell off car at higher value, please do let me know. appreciate your help and own you a coffee smile.gif
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mudah.my / autoworld.com.my / carlist.com.my
sell it to direct buyer...
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post Oct 21 2011, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(hwaching62 @ Oct 21 2011, 10:55 AM)
Haha, that's what i'm thinking too laugh.gif
But to change all 4 rim's to lighter i think still need to consider it, because the purpose to do that is to save my FC, but that will become another cost to change 4 lighter rims sweat.gif, maybe i can consider about 2nd one? any good advice for that?
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The Advanti brand has a range of very lightweight rims. Just dunno how strong they are la, but as long as you're careful I guess nothing wrong kua.

If you trade in your OEM rims and get a new set of Advanti and use back the same tyres prepare to pay around RM1.2-1.4k depending on where you look. Klang will be cheaper.

Lightweight for 17" is around 7-8kg. 10-12kg is considered normal/heavy. Bring a weighing scale when you shop lol. That's what I normally do when rim shopping.
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May I know what's the weight of PU body kit for forte?

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post Oct 21 2011, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Oct 21 2011, 02:16 AM)
Let's see. The spare is around 20kg. Lighter rims, if let's say 3kg per rim, multiply by two for each wheel (unsprung weight or rotational mass), so in total will be:

20 + 4(3x2) = 44kg

It's like taking a 5'3" slim girl out of your car lol...
If you want to see how many percent improvement you might get (just a rough calculation):

Original weight of car / hp:

1.6SX = 1,300 / 124
= 10.48kg / hp

2.0SX = 1,330 / 154
= 8.64kg / hp
Remove 44kg:

1.6SX = 1256 / 124
= 10.13kg / hp
= [(10.48 - 10.13) / 10.13] x 100
= 3.46% better power to weight ratio

2.0SX = 1286 / 154
= 8.35kg / hp
= [(8.64 - 8.35) / 8.35] x 100
= 3.47% better power to weight ratio

From the above theoretical (and possibly not very accurate cos my Maths sucks lol) figures, you can see that a simple reduction of static and moving mass of 44kg in total translates to around the same advantage of an aftermarket drop-in filter. Of course if you also change the filter you will gain more overall la.

Not to mention, having less weight in the boot means tighter cornering. Less weight on the wheels means better rebound rate of absorbers, i.e., the absorbers will recover faster after a bump. Simple things all add up.

At the end of the day you need to ask yourself, do you want a car that performs better than stock, or you want to play dress up? A car with nice looking but heavy rims and outrageous BK like those DAMD type (weight and wind drag) will end up slower than stock. IMO our cars don't reach the type of speeds that will benefit from further downforce lol...


Added on October 21, 2011, 2:31 am

http://kiaceratoforte.blogspot.com
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Thanks for your advice ya. But the website you gave to me doesn't have the NEFD bumper i want ya. ><"


Do you have some others contact? Thanks...
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post Oct 21 2011, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Oct 21 2011, 11:34 AM)
mudah.my / autoworld.com.my / carlist.com.my
sell it to direct buyer...
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How's is the process like?ownership/registration and all macam mana?
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QUOTE(Intel@Atom @ Oct 21 2011, 10:41 AM)
Hi,
I'm planning to get a forte 1.6sx but having problem to get rid of my kelisa 1.0 manual '05 which has only 45K mileage. they only offered me RM15-16K which is pretty low.

if you have any idea where to sell off car at higher value, please do let me know. appreciate your help and own you a coffee smile.gif

will try my luck again this weekend.
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bro , if u want more higher then 15-16k the only way is u sell the car to direct buyer .
normally auto kelisa can get higher price then manual , now's a day all people prefer to have a auto car especially in KL . for easy sell , pls look for those cash buyer ,if loan it may take a lot of time to settle the loan application .

if you not rushing , try to advertise your car on mudah /carlist for the price that you want , simply check on the market price see how much can sell . normally the price must lower then used car advertisement .


cheers ..


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hi all,

just want to ask if it is still worth buying an old forte (second handed, 4 speeder) for 65k or so, o r better get a new ones (6 speed)? the price i was offered for 65k or so.

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