Hi guys, need recommendation & advise on new tyres as gonna change soon. Currently using 215/55/R17. It's for an MPV meant for city driving with occasional highway not over 120km/h.. My budget is RM220 - 300 per piece.

Any brands to recommend?

Thanks in advance!

Sorry to tumpang ur question, i'm looking to change the same size on an mpv as well..wondering if GT radial HSV or Nexen N6000 better? or any other brand recommendation? range of price looking at is RM 250 - RM 380

Thanks in advance too

Tyre review : Achilles ATR Sports 195/50/15
Car : Proton Satria 4G93. Tuned suspension, EVO Twinpots, aggressive alignment settings.

Mileage : 2000km


Dry Grip (7/10)
Good. Not as good as as the premium ultra high performance tyres (AD07, RE001), but as a budget alternative, it doesn't embarrass itself.

Wet Grip (8/10)
Very good in rather deep pooling water up to 120km/h, gets nervous beyond 130km/h. Grip on normal wet roads is commendable and progressive.

Ride and noise (7/10)
Fairly good ride characteristics due to the soft sidewall (32psi), but somewhat noisy.

Handling Feel / lLateral grip Feel (6.5/10)
Rather soft sidewall and due to its very deep thread blocks, there is a lot of thread squirm leading to slightly numb initial response. Lateral grip is decent (better than the same class Bridgestone MY01) but do note an odd handling characteristic noted below under subjective observation. This tyres requires higher than normal pressure (big difference in feel going up from 30 to 34psi)

Durability (?/10)
Too soon to say. But the thread itself is 15% deeper than my last set Michelin PS3. infact at 8mm+ deep, deeper than any other tyre I've used short of my snow tyres


Subjective observation
The main concern that I have about this tyre is the breakaway characteristics. On a turn, the initial lateral bite and traction loss is quite sudden and not very progressive. In short, the tyre does not like quick changes in slip angle and it is not as progressive in feel like the better tyres (Michelin PS3). However that said, once the tyre settles on itself, there is a fair bit of lateral grip to be had. This characteristic might catch people out, as the initial understeer may cause an inexperience driver to abruptly correct (or importantly over correct) for the understeer before the tyre can regain its composure. That said, if the driver can account for this and minimize big slip angle changes, you would be rewarded with good lateral grip previously unknown for this price range. Whether this is due to the deep thread or compound is not known. Will report back when the thread wears down.

The compound is relatively soft and is NOT a high temperature tyre. I did a stint at 200+ at "a private test track" and the tyre got very hot and very soft. Doubt one can run this tyre at Sepang for 3-4 laps before it melting and loosing grip. My car is 980kg... on a heavier car, this would be magnified. But in fairness, none of the tyres in this price range (under $200) will work at track conditions (my Silverstone Evol 8 had thread separation, rest melted after 5 laps). Yet to take this to the circuit.



There will be the constant worry about the high number of reported cases of the ATR experiencing catastrophic failure. However, normally, such a failure would be a result of loss of air. The ATRs do not seem to have a strong sidewall carcass so on loss of air, the tyre will collapse and the wheel will cut through the sidewall. The simple fact is, if you run a tyre with no air, the tyre will fail. Lack of air pressure will also increase the tyres operating temperature, sometimes to the point of failure. I've had tyres down to 15psi and the tyre looks normal. So check your tyre pressure regularly.



PS. I do know the rating means very little for now until I post my reviews of the other tyres I've used, but take it with a grain of salt as your car and your driving characteristics would not be the same.


Competing Tyres (used before, overall average, ranked top to bottem.)

Yokohama Parada Spec II
Achilles ATR Sport
Kumho KU31
Silverstone Evol 8
Bridgestone MY01

It is quite close between the Parada S2 and the ATR. The Parada has higher limits more progressive and predictable in the dry, while the ATR is much better in the wet. The ATR has a symmetrical thread pattern vs. the asymmetrical Parada which places it well in terms of durability.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Feb 2 2013, 03:31 PM

I am currently using Achilles ATR sport. Covered 1k mileage already.
Except the noise, so far no issue.
Performance is consider good for the price. 1 pc of 16" RE002 is more expensive than 2 pcs of same size Achilles ATR Sport.

looking for 205/45/17 or 215/45/17 around rm400 per piece...what option do i have??

Imho, perhaps can consider

Yokohama C-Drive 2
Hankook V12 Evo
Goodyear Eagle F1 Directional 5
GT Radial Champiro HPY

best size will be 195/55/15. ps3 yoko a will be the best

Imho, if wira stock size 175/70R13, the optimum up-sizes of not more than 3% difference are either 175/65R14, 185/60R14, 185/55R15 or 195/50R15

For size 195/55R15, the diameter difference is 3.42% already

As for tyre, yes, Michelin Pilot Sport 3 is one of the best but can be pricey

Perhaps can also consider, for performance oriented tyres, Goodyear Eagle F1 Directional 5 or Hankook Ventus V12 Evo

This post has been edited by malowar: Feb 4 2013, 03:44 PM

of course 195/55 give u better handling and corner. same to more stabil.
hankook v8 rs and hankook v12 got wad different?

Hi All,
can anyone recommend best -price ratio tire for alza, currently is with original tire/rim

budget rm200 and below

thanks in advance

Imho, if stock is the Silverstone Synergy M5 size 185/55R15, can consider
- Continental ComfortContact5
- GT Radial Champiro Bax 2
- Falken Ziex 912
- Michelin Energy XM2
- Continental PremiumContact 2
- GT Radial Champiro 228
- Michelin Pilot Sport 3
of same size for next change

If different size, but maintain stock rim, can consider 195/55R15 which got more options but tyres will be more expensive as well

Hi Guys.

Been using the stock Cc5 that comes with my car but after 2.5k milage start to notice the road noises d.

Are there any better and quieter tyres out there ? Sorry i dont know anything when it comes to tyre

This post has been edited by idunnolol: Feb 7 2013, 02:05 PM

can consider yokohama's c drive2/advan db or toyo's versado series/c1s or michelin's ps3

hi bro.

Whats the benchmark pricing for those tyre? Are they better in handling than CC5?

Hi guys, I am in need to change my tyres on a wira 1.5gls and is currently using falken size 195/50r15

What tyres would be recommended for kl city driving? I want quiet ones if possible and lasts at least two years

Is a budget of rm200 per piece enough? Will probably get after CNY

Thanks!

cant comment for toyo, however i firmly believe yokohama/michelin would easily out handle/perform the conti cc 5

pricing wise, i believe all of them more expensive than cc5 too, having the advan db and michelin ps3/high end versado range from toyo being the priciest of the bunch

Good morning guys,

I have few questions to ask. I noticed my left back tyre become uneven already, can hear the hissing sound. I using myvi btw.

1. Is it still safe to continue driving using uneven tyre? The tyre tread depth is still ok.

2. If not safe, do I need to change both of back tyres? because both of the back tyres are different brands. One is Conti and one is Silverstone. The uneven tyre is Silverstone. I believed it become uneven because of me using different brands. Please correct me if im wrong.

3. So last one which tyres you guys recommend? Think of getting Michelin


Silverstone will not in my list anymore. Last time both of my back tyres are from SS but after using only about 2-3 month, one of them become "bengkak" and I changed it to Conti. Then now become uneven pulak

Hi, imho,

1. May lead to unsafe condition in the long run

2. Normally, if you are referring to the tyre uneven wear @ 'tayar makan tepi' better to

- check air pressure
- check balancing & alignment

But since you mentioned both rear tyres of different brand / model, possibly uneven wear due to different tread depth, tread pattern, treadwear, etc. for each tyre even though both are same size.

Thus normally recommended to change same brand / model, both rear tyres, both front tyres or all 4 tyres at one time.

3. If original size 175/65R14, more to comfort & quiteness like

- Michelin Energy XM2
- Toyo Teo Plus
- Continental ComfortContact5
- GT Radial Champiro Eco
- Continental PremiumContact2

This post has been edited by malowar: Feb 9 2013, 01:08 AM

please change both your rear tyres. always use the same tyres on the left and right side. different tyres perform differently and using different tyres can result in unpredictable behaviour of the car which is not something you want

What is the current price of the RE002, 195/50/15?