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post Jan 3 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jan 3 2012, 10:34 AM)
Noted... so you recommended go for AC Ryan HD2 mini for better built quality?
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I never use the ACryan before so I cannot comment on it. I would go for the WDTV Live-S if you do not need rmvb. It can play any video(except rmvb) without problems and PQ is awesome. Its got Androis and IOS remote control too.
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post Jan 3 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jan 3 2012, 11:45 AM)
tried with latest firmware to solve the audio echo issues?

anyway, i dont mind about the GUI since i not "watching" the GUI...
the movie experience is the most important such as picture quality, audio clarity and video lag-free.. smile.gif
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havent tried the latest .3.2 firmware yet. the echo isnt that bad as if in a very big cave; noticable but not annoying.

On PQ, as long as its not playing 720p then its fine. There will be slight ghosting with fast paced shots on 720p playback though.

SQ, Im on composite RCA but so far what Ive read on forums is that the volume output of the 900b is not very high. With the volume set max on the 900b, amplifier volume got to be increased more than normal level.

ie. Watching Astro / BluRay player, amp volume at 40 / 100. To match same loudness on 900b, amp volume have to increase to > 40. Not sure if the gains are maxed out in the firmware.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Dec 24 2011, 04:38 PM)
Anyone else having problem with the HiMedia 900A?  Mine is dead after less than 2 weeks of light duty.  Quite disappointed with it.  Going back to my WDTV Live and I notice that the WDTV Live is still so much faster as compare to the 1186 realtek chipset.  Navigating the menu on the old WDTV Live feels a lot faster although the processor is much slower.  Hmmm...what is wrong with this 1186 chipset?  Ane more thing is that the HIMedia could not playback many files for eg. the mov files from my Canon Dslr camera, ts files while they play flawlessly on the WDTV Live.
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can i knw ur camera model also the detail for ur TS format which u say is not play smooth...

i test D550, D600 record video file is ok, also TS file in my HDD also no problem... (only have one 3d mkv file have lagging problem de), sumtimes certain special file can not play is normal de, no player guarantee can play 100% movie no problem de (for old WDTV Live ady got many lastest version format cant play well leh, thats why they launch the new WDTV Live Air).. but if many files can not play then is a very big problem leh, i think they also do many test before product lauching de, if got many files can not support they wont put the player into the market de..

my personal experience for operation speed 1185/1186 player is much faster than sigma 8655 player de, when i use wd tv live, wd tv live air everytime press the remote nid wait 1 or 2 second then got response de (of coz differet environment n equipment will make different result de) (u also can off the Android 1st when u play movie de)

for hd900 player now sure still have sum bug nid fix de, sumthing like certain file not support as well, BT download..... nw almost every week got beta firmware cm out de, u can try Upgrade de...

if face any problem better post to their forum will be more useful
here is himedia forum:
http://bbs.himedia-tech.cn/forum.php (chinese only)
http://bbs.himedia.com.au/ (english)
himedia facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Himedia-HD-m...246396912038431
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post Jan 5 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(ccs221 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:42 AM)
can i knw ur camera model also the detail for ur TS format which u say is not play smooth...

i test D550, D600 record video file is ok, also TS file in my HDD also no problem... (only have one 3d mkv file have lagging problem de), sumtimes certain special file can not play is normal de, no player guarantee can play 100% movie no problem de (for old WDTV Live ady got many lastest version format cant play well leh, thats why they launch the new WDTV Live Air).. but if many files can not play then is a very big problem leh, i think they also do many test before product lauching de, if got many files can not support they wont put the player into the market de..

my personal experience for operation speed 1185/1186 player is much faster than sigma 8655 player de, when i use wd tv live, wd tv live air everytime press the remote nid wait 1 or 2 second then got response de (of coz differet environment n equipment will make different result de) (u also can off the Android 1st when u play movie de)

for hd900 player now sure still have sum bug nid fix de, sumthing like certain file not support as well, BT download..... nw almost every week got beta firmware cm out de, u can try Upgrade de...

if face any problem better post to their forum will be more useful
here is himedia forum:
http://bbs.himedia-tech.cn/forum.php (chinese only)
http://bbs.himedia.com.au/ (english)
himedia facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Himedia-HD-m...246396912038431
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I am using Canon 550D and I am so surprise you say the mov files from it can play smooth. All my movies direct from camera is very lagging....hmmm. They are all 1080P.

You might wanna try the ts file below. You can see the file play but the image on the screen is all garbage only.

2010.Victoria.Secret's.Fashion.Show.36Mbps.1080i.HDTV.ts
The.Victoria's.Secret.Fashion.Show.2011.1080i.HDTV.36MBit.MPEG-2.MPA2.0-CtrlHD.ts

The other problem I face is BDMV with 5.2 LPCM audio would play but the I get a loud static noise only.

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying that the HiMedia is a bad product. I think the firmware really needs improvement as it still having playback issues with a lot of file format which plays well on my WDTV LIVE. I was hoping this could replace my WDTV LIVE but then I run into problems playing many of the files.
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well let me try the .mov file from my 550d too and let you know how it goes... i'm using 600A. From himedia forum, it seems that they do have issue with .mov playback..

will update you guys when I got them tested later.
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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 5 2012, 10:47 PM)
well let me try the .mov file from my 550d too and let you know how it goes... i'm using 600A.  From himedia forum, it seems that they do have issue with .mov playback..

will update you guys when I got them tested later.
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Guys, I'd recently bought HIMedia 600A and find hard time to switch from mandarin to cantonese.
Anyone with similar problem or can anyone assist cry.gif
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what do u mean by switch from mandarin to cantonese? the language option in your movie? that is changeable using the remote button 'audio' if your movie file has two sound tracks.... No issue with my 600A
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post Jan 7 2012, 11:26 AM

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lastest official firmware for himedia:

http://dl.himedia-tech.cn/HD900B/HD900_1.0.2.16.tar.gz for HD900 Player (900a/900b all can use de)

http://dl.himedia-tech.cn/HD600/HD600_1.0.5.8.tar.gz for HD600 Player

for hd900 player, sum website provide the beta firmware version 1.0.3.2 link is wrong de, if Upgrade may let ur player cant boot up...

This post has been edited by ccs221: Jan 7 2012, 11:27 AM
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post Jan 7 2012, 11:46 AM

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Confirm .mov media files by 550D is very laggy .. I'm playing from cat5e cable though...I may try playing it thru USB directly later n report..
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post Jan 7 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 7 2012, 11:46 AM)
Confirm .mov media files by 550D is very laggy .. I'm playing from cat5e cable though...I may try playing it thru USB directly later n report..
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on 900 or 600?
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post Jan 7 2012, 12:52 PM

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ccs221,

Need some information and opinion.

Questions as follows and would appreciate if you can answer one by one:-

1) I presume both Realtek 1185DD and 1186DD chip produce a similar video quality. The only difference is 1186 comes with 3D and a faster CPU of 750MHz. Kindly confirm.

2) Between the list of players below, please scratch out players which use Chinese language in the menu and on the remote control. Only English language is preferred.

Himedia 900B
Himedia 600B
Himedia 600C
Datage HDPro I6
Xtreamer Prodigy
Egreat R180
AC Ryan Mini HD2
AC Ryan HD2
Xtreamer Sidewinder 2

3) Between the list of players that operate in English, please list down which player is the best in terms of video quality, reliability and performance(the least complaints from customers in terms of jerkiness, couldn't play certain files etc.) and BitTorrent downloads(the easiest to use with BitTorrent with the least problems in downloads without hangs).

a) Best in video quality : _____________ (if all players are considered to be roughly the same in video quality, then kindly confirm)

b) Best in reliability and performance : _______________

c) Best in BitTorrent downloads : _______________

4) Lastly, please advise if the Dune HD1 which comes with Sigma chip improves on the video quality of the best player with Realtek chip, as in item 3 above.

Thanks.


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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jan 7 2012, 11:58 AM)
on 900 or 600?
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pls do read some earlier posts...
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post Jan 7 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 7 2012, 03:12 PM)
pls do read some earlier posts...
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so your symptom may different case as lightning69 & ccs221 as both of them tested the mov with 900
bcos performance may different due to different chipset...

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post Jan 8 2012, 01:29 AM

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But I think himedia just inherits the old problem in 600x and carries it into 900x...

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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Jan 7 2012, 12:52 PM)
ccs221,

Need some information and opinion.

Questions as follows and would appreciate if you can answer one by one:-

1) I presume both Realtek 1185DD and 1186DD chip produce a similar video quality. The only difference is 1186 comes with 3D and a faster CPU of 750MHz. Kindly confirm.

2) Between the list of players below, please scratch out players which use Chinese language in the menu and on the remote control. Only English language is preferred.

Himedia 900B
Himedia 600B
Himedia 600C
Datage HDPro I6
Xtreamer Prodigy
Egreat R180
AC Ryan Mini HD2
AC Ryan HD2
Xtreamer Sidewinder 2

3) Between the list of players that operate in English, please list down which player is the best in terms of video quality, reliability and performance(the least complaints from customers in terms of jerkiness, couldn't play certain files etc.) and BitTorrent downloads(the easiest to use with BitTorrent with the least problems in downloads without hangs).

a) Best in video quality : _____________ (if all players are considered to be roughly the same in video quality, then kindly confirm)

b) Best in reliability and performance : _______________

c) Best in BitTorrent downloads : _______________

4) Lastly, please advise if the Dune HD1 which comes with Sigma chip improves on the video quality of the best player with Realtek chip, as in item 3 above.

Thanks.
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Not easy to answer your question? I used Ac Ryan HD2, so far very good without much problem. Well you can check this websites will give you all player and chipset rating from prof. so far I found is more reliable..

http://www.iboum.com/artkill/chipsets.php

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post Jan 8 2012, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(wongkmc @ Jan 8 2012, 07:00 AM)
Not easy to answer your question? I used Ac Ryan HD2, so far very good without much problem. Well you can check this websites will give you all player and chipset rating from prof. so far I found is more reliable..

http://www.iboum.com/artkill/chipsets.php
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Thanks for the link. Just read through it two times and certainly useful. Nevertheless, most description is on the additional features of the various chipsets especially with feature and performance upgrades throughout the years(faster CPU, 3D support, Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA support etc.) and there is little or no mention on the video quality of the various iterations of Realtek and Sigma chipsets. I presume video quality is more or less similar between all these chipsets, whether new or old, and it's only the additional features that are improved?

However, I did find a short excerpt suggesting a new generation of Sigma chipset that will improve upon the current chipsets in video quality.

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We expect late 2011 / early 2012 to bring the introduction of the 8910 chipset incorporating VXP image processing for superior video quality, and 1080p 3D. This chip will be aimed at premium players and will be dual core running at 1200Mhz.


Not too sure if we can assume that all the media players with Realtek chips ranging from RM150 to RM500 in the market give a similar video quality, and it's only the features that set these players apart.
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I suppose video quality is hard to tell by someone with bare eyes and not into details.. unless some experts would like to do some comparisons and tell us.
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QUOTE(ryder_78 @ Jan 8 2012, 07:28 AM)
...Not too sure if we can assume that all the media players with Realtek chips ranging from RM150 to RM500 in the market give a similar video quality, and it's only the features that set these players apart.
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You sure have done your research and nicely summed up what I have in mind too in Post #451; I am delaying jumping into the HD900b bandwagon to sit out the expected initial bugs and see whether the picture quality is better than Sigma-based players. I guess we need to take the cue from bro numbertwo and personally audition the 2 year old WD TV Live Air (Sigma 8655) vs HiMedia HD600/900 (Realtek 1185/1186).

BTW, check out this link, where there are people commenting on the Asus O!Play (Realtek 1073) vs WD TV Live (Sigma 8655) picture quality. Sigma wins on sharpness on some hands but on others, there appears to be no perceived difference/indistinguishable.
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My gut feeling tells me the video quality with Realtek 1185 and 1186 is similar, and the latter only comes with additional features (3D among others) and a faster CPU. The reason I've come up with this supposition(without hands-on experience) is I've gone through the comparison chart of Sigma chips as below(thanks to wongkmc for providing the link).

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If you look at the video processing, from the 8630 chip from early 2008 to the most recent 8670 chip(yes, the 8655 chip in the WDTV Live is already obsolete), they all share the same specs in motion adaptive deinterlacing, programmable scaling, chromaticity correction... etc. Only the upcoming 8910 chip will drop the motion adaptive deinterlacing and incorporate the new integrated VXP processing that is claimed to improve video quality. This information also comes directly from Sigma themselves as shown in their own brochure.

To summarise, I believe all Sigma chipsets(8630, 8640, 8650 and 8670 series) all share similar video quality, and the upcoming 8910 chip that will break away from the pack with its new professional grade VXP processor.

pdf brochure here SMP8910 brochure
Link here Sigma Designs chipsets

As for differences in Realtek chipsets, very vague information provided by the company. Realtek only specify on the differences in features between their chips on the website (RTD1055, 1185 and the new 1186), hence my suspicion that video quality is similar across the range.

As for Sigma vs Realtek, in a technical perspective which was demonstrated by anfieldsdude with measurements carried out using advanced tools and gadget, in layman terms the Sigma chip produces more accurate colours, less artifacts and better differentiation at the black-white spectrum. The Realtek is said to produce a brighter and warmer colour, though not as accurate but can be pleasing to some, which is subjective.

If one does not need the additional features of 3D and faster processor of the 900B, then the 600B or 600C will do equally well in terms of video quality me thinks.


Added on January 9, 2012, 1:26 pmJust read the 8910 brochure, and the new VXP video processing incorporated into this chip really sounds promising. The player that has this chip will certainly come with a price..

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post Jan 9 2012, 01:30 PM

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I have been using the Sigma chipset for the past 3 years and now I have the 1186 chipset. All I can say is that the new 1186 chipset is every bit as good as the sigma chipset in terms of PQ. Hope that helps.


Added on January 9, 2012, 1:31 pm
QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 7 2012, 11:46 AM)
Confirm .mov media files by 550D is very laggy .. I'm playing from cat5e cable though...I may try playing it thru USB directly later n report..
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Thanks for the confirmation. Its really the HiMedia 900A/B problem which they need to sort out.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Jan 9 2012, 01:31 PM

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