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post Jan 8 2016, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(sanjay99_99_99 @ Jan 8 2016, 06:03 PM)
hi everybody,
just purchased a new Himedia H8 octacore media player. have upgraded it with the latest firmware but it displays all information in chinese language  only. since i do not know chinese language characters, could some guide me with some screen shots as to how i can activate the english language and interface. thanks.

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u can easily change to english under settings/language.

but u have to know at least where to click since what u read now is in chinese.

trying googling for video guide or take it back to seller to fix.


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post Jan 10 2016, 02:21 AM

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out of curiosity, i just tried netflix on my q16.

.. easy to register and get working
.. easy to use
.. smooth, no buffering
.. eng and other subs


.. limited selection
.. not all tv episodes are as up-to-date as u like
.. at best 720p (for ultra hd option), close to hypptv's 1080i

1st month free, try it!

get it at playstore.

should work on all himedia boxes.
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post Jan 10 2016, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 10 2016, 02:21 AM)
out of curiosity, i just tried netflix on my q16.

.. easy to register and get working
.. easy to use
.. smooth, no buffering
.. eng and other subs
.. limited selection
.. not all tv episodes are as up-to-date as u like
.. at best 720p (for ultra hd option), close to hypptv's 1080i

1st month free, try it!

get it at playstore.

should work on all himedia boxes.
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Netflix's business model doesn't deal with up to date tv shows because they mostly purchase rights to the entire season and not individual episodes as they are released. One can't properly binge watch if one has to keep waiting for episodes. Playing on himedia or the TV app? Cuz if the box, then you'd be stuck with 480p to just under 720p while the TV applies upscaling, which in most cases, it'll still look poor. If using the native TV app on a Netflix approved TV & just getting 720p for content that is available at 1080p or 4K resolution? Then you need to look at TM. Hey, under Unifi's 30Mbps plan & the TV has Netflix 4K support? Try streaming Daredevil or House of Cards.. Both r certified 4K content.

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 10 2016, 09:37 AM)
Playing on himedia or the TV app? Cuz if the box, then you'd be stuck with 480p to just under 720p while the TV applies upscaling, which in most cases, it'll still look poor. If using the native TV app on a Netflix approved TV & just getting 720p for content that is available at 1080p or 4K resolution? Then you need to look at TM. Hey, under Unifi's 30Mbps plan & the TV has Netflix 4K support? Try streaming Daredevil or House of Cards.. Both r certified 4K content.
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checked up and played with it a bit more...

netflix is not available on my tv app selection. i just got it from android playstore.



during the sign up, u r to choose - basic (sd), std (hd) or premium (ultra hd) - diff prices.

since it's just a free trial, i opted for uhd to see if how it comes out on my sharp uhdtv.

house of cards is not there but daredevil is. there is nothing with 4K displayed!



after reading this, i start to doubt i will get 4kUHD.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

.. no 4k content label displayed on local netflix.
.. if direct on tv, only certain models support it; sharp ub and ud series support it but my ue series not listed.
.. if using other devices, only a few support it.
.. BUT... i will wait a few hours to see if anything changes after changign to "high" instead of auto: To select a setting that works best for your Internet plan, navigate to the Your Account page and select Playback settings in the Your Profile section. It can take up to 8 hours for these changes to take effect.



lastly, the content is POOR. there are only 40 tv shows in the selection. rolleyes.gif
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anyone used Showtime apps in Himedia box? I installed it in my Q5II but it's not very useful with remote control navigation keys....cant navigate/select movies unless using mouse pointer...anyone having some issue with me?
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 10 2016, 01:58 PM)
anyone used Showtime apps in Himedia box? I installed it in my Q5II but it's not very useful with remote control navigation keys....cant navigate/select movies unless using mouse pointer...anyone having some issue with me?
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many apps are like that - need to use mouse, remote no good.

becos these apps are designed for android phones n tablets, touch screen.

q5ii dual core is getting obsolete after 2-3 yrs.

hardware is reliable, can still play very well for smaller, older apps.

but can't handle some of the newer apps that might require quad core, more memory.

consider getting new!

coming new himedia hisilicon chipset model is q10 next gen:
http://www.minipcdb.com/articles/Meet-Himedia-Q10-Next-Gen


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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 10 2016, 12:27 PM)
checked up and played with it a bit more...

netflix is not available on my tv app selection. i just got it from android playstore.
during the sign up, u r to choose - basic (sd), std (hd) or premium (ultra hd) - diff prices.

since it's just a free trial, i opted for uhd to see if how it comes out on my sharp uhdtv.

house of cards is not there but daredevil is. there is nothing with 4K displayed!
after reading this, i start to doubt i will get 4kUHD.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

.. no 4k content label displayed on local netflix.
.. if direct on tv, only certain models support it; sharp ub and ud series support it but my ue series not listed.
.. if using other devices, only a few support it.
.. BUT... i will wait a few hours to see if anything changes after changign to "high" instead of auto: To select a setting that works best for your Internet plan, navigate to the Your Account page and select Playback settings in the Your Profile section. It can take up to 8 hours for these changes to take effect.
lastly, the content is POOR. there are only 40 tv shows in the selection. rolleyes.gif
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Netflix has strict criteria for supported devices for 1080p & 4K. There's actually a list of supported devices & network requirements. So if you purchase the UHD package, you'll only see its full benefits on the right device with sufficient Internet. Otherwise it'd be a waste of cash. Take for instance, my Samsung Smart TV natively supports 1080p with HD Audio & the app has no issue ramping up from SD to full HD. Purchasing the full HD package is appropriate, but paying for 4K when my device can't handle it, Netflix won't send 4K content to it.. To save bandwidth & provide a smoother experience. Titles such as House of Cards, Daredevils, Orange is the New Black, etc are available for streaming in 4K.

QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 10 2016, 01:58 PM)
anyone used Showtime apps in Himedia box? I installed it in my Q5II but it's not very useful with remote control navigation keys....cant navigate/select movies unless using mouse pointer...anyone having some issue with me?
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Happens to everyone.. You have to remember that most apps are designed for mobile phones & tablets, all of which have touchscreens.. Not remotes. You'll have to get an external keyboard and mouse/TouchPad combo.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 10 2016, 03:05 PM)
Netflix has strict criteria for supported devices for 1080p & 4K. There's actually a list of supported devices & network requirements. So if you purchase the UHD package, you'll only see its full benefits on the right device with sufficient Internet. Otherwise it'd be a waste of cash. Take for instance, my Samsung Smart TV natively supports 1080p with HD Audio & the app has no issue ramping up from SD to full HD. Purchasing the full HD package is appropriate, but paying for 4K when my device can't handle it, Netflix won't send 4K content to it.. To save bandwidth & provide a smoother experience.  Titles such as House of Cards, Daredevils, Orange is the New Black, etc are available for streaming in 4K.
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yep, i think i understand now.

1. smart tv's that support it like yrs will be ok. my new, 4k, uhdtv is probably too new, too good that it won't support it!! laugh.gif

2. my android alto 4k rated is not on netflix device list, so, no 4k material will show up in the content.

no intention to continue.

just free trial to test my equipment, learn something.

i stuff i get from other apps are just as good if not better and newer than what i get from netflix, so no use to me.




do you know...

for the 4k material in netflix, what audio do u get? 5.1 dd/dts?

trying to figure out what broadband speed will be required to stream 4K dd/dts and then 4K dtshdma/truehd... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 10 2016, 03:26 PM)
yep, i think i understand now.

1. smart tv's that support it like yrs will be ok. my new, 4k, uhdtv is probably too new, too good that it won't support it!! laugh.gif

2. my android alto 4k rated is not on netflix device list, so, no 4k material will show up in the content.

no intention to continue.

just free trial to test my equipment, learn something.

i stuff i get from other apps are just as good if not better and newer than what i get from netflix, so no use to me.
do you know...

for the 4k material in netflix, what audio do u get? 5.1 dd/dts?

trying to figure out what broadband speed will be required to stream 4K dd/dts and then 4K dtshdma/truehd... biggrin.gif
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1 & 2.. Exactly... Even if the device can handle it, as long as Netflix didn't approve it, there'll be limited support (unless one is savvy enough to fool Netflix's servers).... Yeah, for most of us who are willing & know how to source even the latest content from alternative sources, Netflix is pretty much redundant. Netflix recommends a minimum of 25Mbps (stable speed) to stream 4K. Naturally, to ensure smooth streaming, one needs more than the recommendation. Sound wise, you'd get at least DD5.1. That's what I get with 1080p. I'm unsure & don't think they'd stream DTSHDMA/TrueHD.
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hitv stop working since a month ago, you guys too?

coz that's the only app for my mom to browse movie.

any good app recomendation? hopefully can cover as many movie as possible. major watch chinese movies.

NOT live tv, i already 1 installed, tv plus 2.0, very satisfied, just the channel list too many, a little troublesome to browse the list. haha.

or any good and cheap china vpn recommendation?

pls dun recommend me kodi, i tried set it up 2 times, but keep fail... dunno how to set it up, too complicated for me.

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post Jan 15 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Jan 15 2016, 09:08 AM)
hitv stop working since a month ago, you guys too?

coz that's the only app for my mom to browse movie.

any good app recomendation? hopefully can cover as many movie as possible. major watch chinese movies.

NOT live tv, i already 1 installed, tv plus 2.0, very satisfied, just the channel list too many, a little troublesome to browse the list. haha.

or any good and cheap china vpn recommendation?

pls dun recommend me kodi, i tried set it up 2 times, but keep fail... dunno how to set it up, too complicated for me.
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yes, hitv was disrupted a couple of months ago.

the old apk does not work anymore, does not update auto.

you need a new apk to get it again. check with yr seller.

chinese (mandarin) stuff - google shafa, u find many things there.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 15 2016, 10:59 AM)
yes, hitv was disrupted a couple of months ago.

the old apk does not work anymore, does not update auto.

you need a new apk to get it again. check with yr seller.

chinese (mandarin) stuff - google shafa, u find many things there.
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mine last month just down sweat.gif seems like im the lucky 1 to use til last seconds, haha. doh.gif

my seller... not sure i still save the pm in my inbox or not sweat.gif

thanks for the info smile.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 6 2016, 03:11 PM)
easiest way is to ask yr seller for it. he/she should have it.

google/chrome/youtube - u need a patch file to get them. ask for it too.
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Hi AVFAN thanks for the advice unfortunately my Himedia was given to me just 2 month ago. A friend who bought it but never use for 2 yrs cause he got slow broadband.

So now I'm trying to figure out and learn all the new stuff. I don't think I know or can contact the seller. I was hoping there is a common forum or respository for all the patch files or upgrade files. Is there no share common knowledge thread like phones in LYN for himedia ?
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QUOTE(sairay @ Jan 18 2016, 09:44 AM)
Hi AVFAN thanks for the advice unfortunately my Himedia was given to me just 2 month ago. A friend who bought it but never use for 2 yrs cause he got slow broadband.

So now I'm trying to figure out and learn all the new stuff. I don't think I know or can contact the seller. I was hoping there is a common forum or respository for all the patch files or upgrade files. Is there no share common knowledge thread like phones in LYN for himedia ?
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no, there is no "global" repository from manufacturer.

there used to be one site (in chinese) that has some firmwares but no more i think - no update, malware...

maybe they still exist but accessible only by their distributors and agents.

keep in mind there have been numerous models, some meant for internal china, some meant for int'l markets.

some sellers keep repos and other things on their own - u can approach them.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 18 2016, 10:10 AM)
no, there is no "global" repository from manufacturer.

there used to be one site (in chinese) that has some firmwares but no more i think - no update, malware...

maybe they still exist but accessible only by their distributors and agents.

keep in mind there have been numerous models, some meant for internal china, some meant for int'l markets.

some sellers keep repos and other things on their own - u can approach them.
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If I might ask, why doesnt HiMedia at least offer & maintain a repo containing important files like firmwares, etc with direct downloads access for the average product user? It's an obvious choice and a bad one at that... IMO.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jan 18 2016, 11:01 PM)
If I might ask, why doesnt HiMedia at least offer & maintain a repo containing important files like firmwares, etc with direct downloads access for the average product user? It's an obvious choice and a bad one at that... IMO.
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i really don't know but... i think it's just the way a small china co. works - focus on china and chinese, not ready to expand in a major way internationally and in english. so, they probably just appoint a few distributors worldwide and let them do their thing. but i can say there are distributors/sellers here and elsewhere that do a damn good job in what you described (that's how i get all my good stuff tongue.gif) and why i always say "buy from a seller who can support you". but not all sellers work that way since some sellers sell all kinds of other stuff, not focused on one or a few devices, no time/motivation to service customers since u can't make money in after sales on a device that cost rm400-500 only.

also, there are online purchase sites, even here in lyn where u buy and be on your own!

himedia will get there, will take time for them to have a strategic plan, maybe partner with some int'l iptv provider, hire the right people.

i do not know what device manufacturers have good sites for on-going support. but i do know ac ryan is one of them. minix probably does a good job since it is hong kong based and would probably have started with an international/english sales plan from day 1.

this android box biz must be a cut throat one - there are hundreds of brands - from usa, china, brazil, south africa, probably russia, estonia, hungary, etc. too.... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 18 2016, 11:33 PM)
i really don't know but... i think it's just the way a small china co. works - focus on china and chinese, not ready to expand in a major way internationally and in english. so, they probably just appoint a few distributors worldwide and let them do their thing. but i can say there are distributors/sellers here and elsewhere that do a damn good job in what you described (that's how i get all my good stuff tongue.gif) and why i always say "buy from a seller who can support you". but not all sellers work that way since some sellers sell all kinds of other stuff, not focused on one or a few devices, no time/motivation to service customers since u can't make money in after sales on a device that cost rm400-500 only.

also, there are online purchase sites, even here in lyn where u buy and be on your own!

himedia will get there, will take time for them to have a strategic plan, maybe partner with some int'l iptv provider, hire the right people.

i do not know what device manufacturers have good sites for on-going support. but i do know ac ryan is one of them. minix probably does a good job since it is hong kong based and would probably have started with an international/english sales plan from day 1.

this android box biz must be a cut throat one - there are hundreds of brands - from usa, china, brazil, south africa, probably russia, estonia, hungary, etc. too.... biggrin.gif
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The key reason is Himedia do not have good English speaking/writing engineer, they merely depend on oversea re-seller to support oversea customers. It is up to the re-seller to maintain the firmware repo.

Similarly, MINIX do not have enough good English speaking engineer in HK and China, they are depend on oversea re-seller to moderate the MINIX forum as well.

This post has been edited by nicety: Jan 19 2016, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(nicety @ Jan 19 2016, 12:32 AM)
The key reason is Himedia do not have good English speaking/writing engineer, they merely depend oversea re-seller to support oversea customers. Some reseller maintain their own repo, some reseller just ignore because maintaining the repo need additional effort.

Similarly, MINIX do not have enough good English speaking engineer in HK and China, they are depend on Oversea re-seller to moderate the MINIX forum.
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almost like what i said! biggrin.gif
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Makes sense... Particularly the no time/motivation to continously offer decent after sales support on products with little profit margin.. They better wake up before it's too late. As you mentioned, it's China, Android & no shortage of manufacturing factories.

QUOTE(nicety @ Jan 19 2016, 12:32 AM)
The key reason is Himedia do not have good English speaking/writing engineer, they merely depend on oversea re-seller to support oversea customers. It is up to the re-seller to maintain the firmware repo.

Similarly, MINIX do not have enough good English speaking engineer in HK and China, they are depend on oversea re-seller to moderate the MINIX forum as well.
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It's not just hiring English speaking employees.. Based on what I've gathered over the months, HiMedia also lacks a dedicated Chinese forum or support team. I mean, there's always Google translate for the English folks (works somewhat)... So I don't think it's a language thing.. Resellers can only do so much.. The Minix team have been decent so far & yeah, some of the forum mods were "outsourced". So at least, they've got that right...

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