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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V9, D5100 stock arrived !

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post May 25 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ May 25 2011, 02:51 PM)
can use better than kit lens?

most of my friends say no need use kit lens as you gonna upgrade soon to other lens.
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I'll repeat, what is your budget?

If budget is unlimited, you may consider the DX king lens, 17-55.
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post May 25 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 24 2011, 11:58 PM)
Should I or shouldn't I fire the flash if we're at an open area, under the sun? Sun may create shadow on face and light flash should be required to fill them up. If I'm doing so, would there be likelyhood that I may overflare the frame? I don't think I will have enough time to do practice and testing till the actual day.
You are always encouraged to use the flash in daylight as fill flash.

If you're in bright sunlight and using big apertures like f/1.4 or f/2.8 with flash, you might run into slight problems. As your flash sync speed on the D7000 maxes out at 1/250, you need to set it to AutoFP which enables you to shoot at any shutter speed (at the given aperture) but at the expense of flash power loss (limited range) when going faster than 1/250.

QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ May 25 2011, 12:51 AM)
I have never heard of flashgun died of overheating though hmm.gif I have never heard of my SB-800 Overheating too
Usually, the capacitor kongs out but it is an easy replacement.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 25 2011, 12:57 AM)
This is just a great 1 2 3 points stop explanation that understandable by new photographer like me rclxms.gif

To get this right, the colour gels you mentioned is the colour filters? I got 4 of them in the box, does that counts right?

Therefore I should always carry them with me and apply it when it's necessary? Okay, this is getting to much to absorb and it's getting critical if I can practise them right this weekend.
It's actually simple. If you're shooting flash in tungsten lighting, use tungsten colour gel and set camera WB to tungsten.

If you're shooting flash in fluorescent lighting, use fluorescent colour gel and set camera WB to fluorescent.


QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ May 25 2011, 01:16 AM)
^ Same here. I shoot in Raw. But the lights later at the back kinda problematic, hopefully no one is picky enough to point them out haha
That's correct. With mixed lighting and flash, it is always tricky to get it right.

The general rule is to get your flash colour output the same as the ambient lighting.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 25 2011, 01:23 AM)
When my friend bought his D7000 kit, the seller not recommended to turn the Active D-Lighting ON as he claimed that it slightly wash out the sharpness of the photo quality. I'm yet to test it nor read more about it online, but I remained it turned OFF for the time being. Would the Active D-Lighting actually recommended to be turned ON all the time?
Yup. While Active D-Lighting is a nice feature, it is at the expense of reduced dynamic range and increased shadow noise in some cases.


QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 25 2011, 09:43 AM)
Yup, tumpang add on:
Remember, the camera is a device, it cannot see or know the real situation, it use its sensor and calculte the appropriate exposure.
Example: If the background is very bright and you subject standing in front of the background. The camera cannot see or know what's going on and cameras have limited dynamic range unlike human eyes.
In matrix metering mode, the camera will expose for the whole frame, thus giving you 'incorrect' exposure to the subject.
This situation you can dial in exposure compensation (in non manual mode) or if you're on manual mode, you can't rely on the metering unless you dial in the correct exposure compensation.
OR, you can change the metering mode, e.g. spot metering, so the camera will meter the spot which you focus instead of the entire frame.
Or.... Meter (M) your camera to expose (or underexpose slightly by 1 stop) for the background and let the flash illuminate your subject. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 25 2011, 09:43 AM)
but then cosplay event the WB will run off right? because too colourful already XD...
last time snap this my friend said the WB take her pink wig as WB ...and make whole picture become pink...
now i wonder how the WB judge the "white" hmm.gif
that picture PPed one.
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For skintones, try and turn the saturation down. Use neutral to get better skintones.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ May 25 2011, 02:36 PM)
So how do I gauge whether my picture with correct exposure or not?
Histogram.

QUOTE(cyclone9 @ May 25 2011, 02:51 PM)
can use better than kit lens?

most of my friends say no need use kit lens as you gonna upgrade soon to other lens.
Photography is a very expensive hobby. As a newbie, you would not know what type of photography that you would like to go into. The kit lens would be able to accompany you on your photographic journey and along the way, you'll find your niche and also your interest (or not at all). During that time, chances are that you would also hit the limits of your kit lens and that is when you go for specialised lenses.

Example: If you find that you're getting closer and closer to your subject to get closer details but you're not able to do it with the kit lens, then you should be looking at the macro lens. If you're into night photography and everytime you hit the limit of your small lens aperture, you'd probably want to upgrade to larger aperture lenses.
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post May 25 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 25 2011, 03:01 PM)
but then you duno what lens should buy, we recommended 50mm f/1.8 scare you will say not enough wide or bla bla ... 35mm f/1.8 for crop sensor body only...(or dun have zoom)
then how about 85m f/1.4  brows.gif
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Nikon 35mm AF-S f/1.4G !
drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

Anyone here own this delicious prime lens ?
I'm eye-ing this for my D7000.
Hopefully can manage to save up in the next 6 months.
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post May 25 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(scotty @ May 25 2011, 01:25 AM)
any event this month? long time no out to shoot liao smile.gif
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Hari Belia in putrajaya this weekend! going for the paintball event biggrin.gif
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post May 25 2011, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ May 25 2011, 02:51 PM)
can use better than kit lens?

most of my friends say no need use kit lens as you gonna upgrade soon to other lens.
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could give a try to Tamron 17-50 ? smile.gif

QUOTE(gnome @ May 25 2011, 03:25 PM)
Hari Belia in putrajaya this weekend! going for the paintball event biggrin.gif
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I'm going there too. to work. lol
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post May 25 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 25 2011, 09:30 AM)
then what gear is that? hmm.gif
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lol, is that Soloman Freeman, then is most likely D3s with 70-200

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 25 2011, 09:43 AM)
but then cosplay event the WB will run off right? because too colourful already XD...
last time snap this my friend said the WB take her pink wig as WB ...and make whole picture become pink...
now i wonder how the WB judge the "white" hmm.gif
that picture PPed one.
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cos flash colour not the same with ambient light, WB cant balance out
when balance out ambient light, the flash light becomes too cold, when balance out flash light, the ambient light becomes too warm
nid use colour gels, when ambient light is warm, use orange gel to get orange flash, then use colder WB
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QUOTE(ujoewong @ May 25 2011, 03:25 PM)
Nikon 35mm AF-S f/1.4G !
drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

Anyone here own this delicious prime lens ?
I'm eye-ing this for my D7000.
Hopefully can manage to save up in the next 6 months.
I have not shot with mine a lot but wide open f/1.4 sharpness is fantastic.
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post May 25 2011, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 25 2011, 03:34 PM)
I have not shot with mine a lot but wide open f/1.4 sharpness is fantastic.
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Aisk, POISON ! drool.gif

Yeah, gotta shot this lens with f1.4 most of the time with this lens.
If not, can just get a 35mm f1.8 for a much affordable pricing.

How much did you bought this ?
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post May 25 2011, 03:47 PM

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^ 1.4 you say?

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post May 25 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(stsh90 @ May 25 2011, 03:28 PM)
could give a try to Tamron 17-50 ? smile.gif
I'm going there too. to work. lol
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Oh you'll be working where?
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post May 25 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(ujoewong @ May 25 2011, 03:43 PM)
Aisk, POISON !  drool.gif

Yeah, gotta shot this lens with f1.4 most of the time with this lens.
If not, can just get a 35mm f1.8 for a much affordable pricing.

How much did you bought this ?
I think I got mine about 4.9k thereabouts. Yes, wide open is nice but when the subject moves about, it's not the easiest to shoot with since DoF is very thin.

The 35mm f/1.8 is nice and affordable. Would have gone with that but I wanted FX. I already have the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 and I'm told it's pretty similar output with the 35mm f/1.8 except that the Sigma being less contrasty out of the camera but smoother bokeh.


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QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ May 25 2011, 03:47 PM)
^ 1.4 you say?
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I somehow don't have the love for the 50mm f/1.4.

24mm f/1.4, 35mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 is a different story.

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post May 25 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(gnome @ May 25 2011, 03:48 PM)
Oh you'll be working where?
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Work under Acer. smile.gif
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post May 25 2011, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 25 2011, 03:54 PM)
I think I got mine about 4.9k thereabouts. Yes, wide open is nice but when the subject moves about, it's not the easiest to shoot with since DoF is very thin.

The 35mm f/1.8 is nice and affordable. Would have gone with that but I wanted FX. I already have the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 and I'm told it's pretty similar output with the 35mm f/1.8 except that the Sigma being less contrasty out of the camera but smoother bokeh.


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I somehow don't have the love for the 50mm f/1.4.

24mm f/1.4, 35mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 is a different story.
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For 50mm, f/1.2 is the real deal brows.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 25 2011, 04:40 PM)
For 50mm, f/1.2 is the real deal  brows.gif
Wonder when the AF-S will be out... But even then, I would need to get used to the 50mm FoV.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 25 2011, 04:43 PM)
Wonder when the AF-S will be out... But even then, I would need to get used to the 50mm FoV.
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Yeah. Where is the Nikon AF-S 50mm f1.2 is coming anyway.
Canon had that since 2006.

Yeap, the reason for getting 35mm f1.4 is future proof. Can go FX anytime.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ May 25 2011, 04:43 PM)
Wonder when the AF-S will be out... But even then, I would need to get used to the 50mm FoV.
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f/1.2 AiS performs better than the f/1.4D. Sharper wide open even f/1.2 versus f/1.4
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 25 2011, 03:33 PM)
cos flash colour not the same with ambient light, WB cant balance out
when balance out ambient light, the flash light becomes too cold, when balance out flash light, the ambient light becomes too warm
nid use colour gels, when ambient light is warm, use orange gel to get orange flash, then use colder WB
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i dun even open flash wor.... hmm.gif
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post May 25 2011, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 25 2011, 04:48 PM)
f/1.2 AiS performs better than the f/1.4D. Sharper wide open even f/1.2 versus f/1.4
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My father used to havev 1.2 =( Don't know where did it go to. Yeah that's the MF 1.2
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Should i get the Nikon D5100 with 18-55mm or 18-105mm? hehe.. going to join this Nikon family soon smile.gif
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This thread is getting better, instead of all gear talks, now there's more explaination about technical settings thumbup.gif

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