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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V9, D5100 stock arrived !

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post May 23 2011, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Bliz @ May 19 2011, 09:38 PM)
70-200vr2 is the heaviest of all version, but it feels lighter than the 80-200 due to better distributed weight  thumbup.gif
I believe that is incorrect. The heaviest is the AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 at 1550g.

The AF-D 80-200mm f/2.8 is the lightest at 1300g. The AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 VR I is 1,470g and AF-S 70-200mm f/2.8 VR II is 1530g.
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post May 23 2011, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(honkit @ May 23 2011, 03:59 PM)
Shutter speeds are high but looks to me like camera shake?

Is this VR switched on or off. Try switching it off and shoot.

If you think your method of shooting with VR is incorrect, try and shoot again. The correct method of using VR lenses is that you need to wait for about a second or so after half-pressing the focus button to let the gyro in the VR lens to settle before actually pressing the shutter button fully to take the shot.
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post May 25 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 24 2011, 11:58 PM)
Should I or shouldn't I fire the flash if we're at an open area, under the sun? Sun may create shadow on face and light flash should be required to fill them up. If I'm doing so, would there be likelyhood that I may overflare the frame? I don't think I will have enough time to do practice and testing till the actual day.
You are always encouraged to use the flash in daylight as fill flash.

If you're in bright sunlight and using big apertures like f/1.4 or f/2.8 with flash, you might run into slight problems. As your flash sync speed on the D7000 maxes out at 1/250, you need to set it to AutoFP which enables you to shoot at any shutter speed (at the given aperture) but at the expense of flash power loss (limited range) when going faster than 1/250.

QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ May 25 2011, 12:51 AM)
I have never heard of flashgun died of overheating though hmm.gif I have never heard of my SB-800 Overheating too
Usually, the capacitor kongs out but it is an easy replacement.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 25 2011, 12:57 AM)
This is just a great 1 2 3 points stop explanation that understandable by new photographer like me rclxms.gif

To get this right, the colour gels you mentioned is the colour filters? I got 4 of them in the box, does that counts right?

Therefore I should always carry them with me and apply it when it's necessary? Okay, this is getting to much to absorb and it's getting critical if I can practise them right this weekend.
It's actually simple. If you're shooting flash in tungsten lighting, use tungsten colour gel and set camera WB to tungsten.

If you're shooting flash in fluorescent lighting, use fluorescent colour gel and set camera WB to fluorescent.


QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ May 25 2011, 01:16 AM)
^ Same here. I shoot in Raw. But the lights later at the back kinda problematic, hopefully no one is picky enough to point them out haha
That's correct. With mixed lighting and flash, it is always tricky to get it right.

The general rule is to get your flash colour output the same as the ambient lighting.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 25 2011, 01:23 AM)
When my friend bought his D7000 kit, the seller not recommended to turn the Active D-Lighting ON as he claimed that it slightly wash out the sharpness of the photo quality. I'm yet to test it nor read more about it online, but I remained it turned OFF for the time being. Would the Active D-Lighting actually recommended to be turned ON all the time?
Yup. While Active D-Lighting is a nice feature, it is at the expense of reduced dynamic range and increased shadow noise in some cases.


QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 25 2011, 09:43 AM)
Yup, tumpang add on:
Remember, the camera is a device, it cannot see or know the real situation, it use its sensor and calculte the appropriate exposure.
Example: If the background is very bright and you subject standing in front of the background. The camera cannot see or know what's going on and cameras have limited dynamic range unlike human eyes.
In matrix metering mode, the camera will expose for the whole frame, thus giving you 'incorrect' exposure to the subject.
This situation you can dial in exposure compensation (in non manual mode) or if you're on manual mode, you can't rely on the metering unless you dial in the correct exposure compensation.
OR, you can change the metering mode, e.g. spot metering, so the camera will meter the spot which you focus instead of the entire frame.
Or.... Meter (M) your camera to expose (or underexpose slightly by 1 stop) for the background and let the flash illuminate your subject. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 25 2011, 09:43 AM)
but then cosplay event the WB will run off right? because too colourful already XD...
last time snap this my friend said the WB take her pink wig as WB ...and make whole picture become pink...
now i wonder how the WB judge the "white" hmm.gif
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For skintones, try and turn the saturation down. Use neutral to get better skintones.

QUOTE(hidden830726 @ May 25 2011, 02:36 PM)
So how do I gauge whether my picture with correct exposure or not?
Histogram.

QUOTE(cyclone9 @ May 25 2011, 02:51 PM)
can use better than kit lens?

most of my friends say no need use kit lens as you gonna upgrade soon to other lens.
Photography is a very expensive hobby. As a newbie, you would not know what type of photography that you would like to go into. The kit lens would be able to accompany you on your photographic journey and along the way, you'll find your niche and also your interest (or not at all). During that time, chances are that you would also hit the limits of your kit lens and that is when you go for specialised lenses.

Example: If you find that you're getting closer and closer to your subject to get closer details but you're not able to do it with the kit lens, then you should be looking at the macro lens. If you're into night photography and everytime you hit the limit of your small lens aperture, you'd probably want to upgrade to larger aperture lenses.
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post May 25 2011, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(ujoewong @ May 25 2011, 03:25 PM)
Nikon 35mm AF-S f/1.4G !
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Anyone here own this delicious prime lens ?
I'm eye-ing this for my D7000.
Hopefully can manage to save up in the next 6 months.
I have not shot with mine a lot but wide open f/1.4 sharpness is fantastic.
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post May 25 2011, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(ujoewong @ May 25 2011, 03:43 PM)
Aisk, POISON !  drool.gif

Yeah, gotta shot this lens with f1.4 most of the time with this lens.
If not, can just get a 35mm f1.8 for a much affordable pricing.

How much did you bought this ?
I think I got mine about 4.9k thereabouts. Yes, wide open is nice but when the subject moves about, it's not the easiest to shoot with since DoF is very thin.

The 35mm f/1.8 is nice and affordable. Would have gone with that but I wanted FX. I already have the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 and I'm told it's pretty similar output with the 35mm f/1.8 except that the Sigma being less contrasty out of the camera but smoother bokeh.


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QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ May 25 2011, 03:47 PM)
^ 1.4 you say?
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I somehow don't have the love for the 50mm f/1.4.

24mm f/1.4, 35mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4 is a different story.

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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 25 2011, 04:40 PM)
For 50mm, f/1.2 is the real deal  brows.gif
Wonder when the AF-S will be out... But even then, I would need to get used to the 50mm FoV.
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QUOTE(noobie1 @ May 25 2011, 05:37 PM)
just get 18-55
Why 18-55 and not the 18-105? Should be better since 18-105 has longer reach?
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 25 2011, 05:48 PM)
depends on preference
each got pros n cons
18-105 has higher focal length n faster AF, but has very bad distortion n longer MFD compare to 18-55
Ok, good points. But if one was looking for a kit lens, distortion and MFD are not as important as reach, correct? If MFD and distortion were important, you would choose neither kit lens to begin with. biggrin.gif
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post May 25 2011, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(noobie1 @ May 25 2011, 06:03 PM)
if wan longer reach might as well get 18-200?
Yes, but depends on OP's budget.

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ May 25 2011, 06:09 PM)
n 18-55 MFD is seriously way shorter than most lenses including N lenses
very useful if not gonna spend a fortune on macro lens
That's correct. But if I were a casual shooter wanting to take excellent macro shots but not willing to spend a lot, I would invest in something like the G12 or XZ-1.

Anyway, I doubt that the primary reason for the OP to get the D5100 is to shoot macro. I'm guessing he's more into general photography which is quite a norm for a person just starting out with a DSLR. In my opinion, when starting out, reach is more often a wanted feature than getting shorter MFD. If he is a serious macro shooter, just buy the body only and couple it with a 60mm f/2.8, 105mm f/2.8 VR or the 200mm f/4.
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post May 26 2011, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ May 25 2011, 11:27 PM)
haha. will do. Currently reading Thom Hogan stuff at his site. Damm this fella really good with his writing. His writing i bet is as good as his photography skills
Thom Hogan? Oh my. Heavy stuff. biggrin.gif Not something to read late at night.
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post May 26 2011, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 26 2011, 02:59 AM)
I tried my friend  AF 80-200 f/2.8D ED not bad mah wink.gif
two touch version, but for me still a bit , a bit soft on wide open.
Maybe I too picky. I feel 70-200 VR much better though I can't compare them side by side.
I figure your 1/1250 shutter speed should be more than sufficient. Are you on AF-Continuous or AF-Static? Subjects walking / moving in front?

Well anyway, it's an old lens. The newer VR *should* be better seeing the price and age.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ May 26 2011, 09:15 AM)
VR and VR2 definitely sharper than the 80200 wide open smile.gif
Depends on which type of 80-200mm f/2.8 you are talking about... On a crop DX sensor, perhaps that your statement is true.

But on FX, the order of sharpness wide open is as follows;

VR2 > AF-S 80-200mm f/2.8 > VR1

I would assume the AF-D version to be the least sharp.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 26 2011, 10:08 AM)
Hoping one day can hug the 70-200 VR home  laugh.gif
Like this?

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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ May 26 2011, 10:16 AM)
I think it is too saturated? what do you think?  hmm.gif
The photo is a little small but from what I can see, shadows are a little blocked i.e. details in the shadows are non-existent.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 26 2011, 12:44 PM)
and canon refreshed all their 300 , 400 , 500 , 600 big prime  tongue.gif
as well as announcing 200-400 F4 with built-in 1.4x teleconverter switch  shocking.gif
The 200-400 was long overdue. A lot of nature photographers switched to Nikon because at that time, the Canon had no equivalent. Andy Rouse switched from Canon to Nikon mostly because of the D3 but also because of the Nikon 200-400mm f/4.

Anyway, I believe Nikon just refreshed their 400mm, 500mm and 600mm big primes during the introduction of the D3 just in time for Beijing Olympics. Then after that, they updated the 300mm.

Anyway, I think one of the most awaited lenses to be updated with VR or AF-S motor is the 300mm f/4 and the 80-400mm zoom. Now if they can also update their 1.4x and 1.7x TCs like they did for their 2.0x TC, that would be wonderful too. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(C_Sagi @ May 26 2011, 04:33 PM)
hey guys, anyone here travel to oversea a lot ?
I wanna know if i can bring a camera bag and a hand carry bag on board the plane or i can only bring 1 bag regardless whichever one ? mellow.gif
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Should be fine. I always carried 1 laptop and 1 bag for my camera gears.

But lately after getting the Thinktank Airport Acceleration V2, I put my laptop together with my gears and hand carry all of them in one bag.

Anyway regardless of the type of bag, laptops should always be taken out separately for xray scanning.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ May 26 2011, 04:55 PM)
but then you had to "pour" your gadget in your bag to them to check XD..i went to Sg with plane before, the SG, changi airport is stricter than msia.
Did you use a proper camera bag or you just campak all your other stuff inside a normal bag?

If it's a proper camera bag, it just goes under the xray machine. They will only ask you to open if they find something suspicious.

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