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Kar Leong
post Apr 8 2010, 02:13 AM

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Well i have to do this , recently i upgrade my ICE Setup example in my signature, within 2 week i almost spend more than 15k setup above; I would like to share my experience with you all; thumbup.gif
First 1st lastweek i use Debezt monoblock 1000w bridge to 1Ω to kick 2 x Rockford Fosgate T112D4 DVC 4Ω Dual (which each sub need 600w-1200w peak) both sub woffer need 1200w
So i add another monoblock same brand Debezt, 2 monoblock kick 2 sub parellel-wiring but guess what ? The monoblock over heat / lighting protection come out and in / sometime have woofer sound sometime cut off rclxub.gif
Yes if your monoblock underpower will coz overheat n auto cut-off; to solve this change better monoblock [more power needed in watt]
at last the monoblock still under warranty, so change to Shuttle LAB 1700W class D monoblock [Prokick sister?] and really can kick 2 sub-woofer with series-parallel wiring at 1Ω [really awesome]

Car Battery:- N70Z/L AH75 12v [upgrading done]
Car Alternator:- Stock Toyota Corolla SEG
Battery 12v >> in-line fuse (front bonet) >> Prokick 2.0cap (rear bonet beside monoblock) >> Shuttle Lab monoblock (rear bonet) +ve from capicitor >> 2sub
ALL Cable 4AWG, Grounding Cable same as 4AWG (less than 1feet) to vehicle body chasis, sub 8AWG cable
Recent add:- 5 Point Grounding 4AWG Cable to Alternator 1point, Engine chasis 2point, CarBody 2point (adding because due to the vehicle engine spark / idle / electricity no enough stable)

Testing 1 Week already;
SQ Slow music which bass sound come slow 1 by 1 okie no problem at all;
SPL Bass like continuously coming in second, headlight dimming problem; everything light dimming; monoblock totally suck all the battery watt;
Today just add another Prokick 2.0digital farad on the shuttle lab monoblock, its only help a bit blush.gif [lesser dimming problem]
Future need to change bigger alternator / dynamo ? or got another way to solve this ?

Soon upgrade PXA-H100, Alpine minimum RMS per channel 100w 4Ω x 4 channel, throw away my 6x9" useless boston acoustic (tweeter quite harsh sound) haha...
Btw add Raizin Volt Stabilizer will its help or not ? Coz today testing on my car, like nothing special happen de (what use of this item?)
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post Apr 8 2010, 02:31 AM

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15k in 2 week? damn rich oh. all i can say is wow. gud luck in ur quest for ur audio nirvana.
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post Apr 8 2010, 03:03 AM

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normal la, when i into something sure crazy ^^ but then slowly get bored lolz
Last year until now i play wan mei known as Perfect World MY-EN my total Cumulative RewardPoint 52,150 (mean i already use 52,150 MYR within 2 years) 1cubi - 1reward point - 1 MYR

sign0006.gif means i can buy 1 MyVi already !!!

This post has been edited by Kar Leong: Apr 8 2010, 03:05 AM
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post Apr 8 2010, 03:32 AM

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15k............ wow, happy icing bro.
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post Apr 8 2010, 03:53 AM

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really admire ur very deep pocket kar leong. rich dad i supposed? many ppl have to work for years to get 50k, and u r able to spend it on gaming. even i have to save like 3yrs to gather up 10k. and had to think 10 times before buying. but deep pocket is gud for ICE, a very valuable asset in ICE world. smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 06:00 AM

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15k for ur setup.... u ada kana ppl parang ah? why so bloody expensive?
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post Apr 8 2010, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(ckmoy007 @ Apr 8 2010, 03:53 AM)
really admire ur very deep pocket kar leong. rich dad i supposed? many ppl have to work for years to get 50k, and u r able to spend it on gaming. even i have to save like 3yrs to gather up 10k. and had to think 10 times before buying. but deep pocket is gud for ICE, a very valuable asset in ICE world. smile.gif
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Well, at least the ICE industry is going to thrive with the existence of more of this group of people. laugh.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 09:16 AM

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To the oldman that still looking for arguement, nope, I'm respecting the old ones basically, if I cause him to get stroke(since that oldman like to eat alot of expensive but unhealthy food and have to rely on medicine to keep blood pressure low) and suddenly mycarhifi.com come a thread that "our brother youngaccordguy got stroke because like to argue with someone in forums" then it will be bad to me, but it will good to our local forum, the end of another dirty businesman that trying his best on making a living by conning newbies.


Added on April 8, 2010, 9:31 am
QUOTE(Kar Leong @ Apr 8 2010, 02:13 AM)
Well i have to do this , recently i upgrade my ICE Setup example in my signature, within 2 week i almost spend more than 15k setup above; I would like to share my experience with you all; thumbup.gif
First 1st lastweek i use Debezt monoblock 1000w bridge to 1Ω to kick 2 x Rockford Fosgate T112D4 DVC 4Ω Dual (which each sub need 600w-1200w peak) both sub woffer need 1200w
So i add another monoblock same brand Debezt, 2 monoblock kick 2 sub parellel-wiring but guess what ? The monoblock over heat / lighting protection come out and in / sometime have woofer sound sometime cut off  rclxub.gif
Yes if your monoblock underpower will coz overheat n auto cut-off; to solve this change better monoblock [more power needed in watt]
at last the monoblock still under warranty, so change to Shuttle LAB 1700W class D monoblock [Prokick sister?] and really can kick 2 sub-woofer with series-parallel wiring at 1Ω [really awesome]

Car Battery:- N70Z/L AH75 12v [upgrading done]
Car Alternator:- Stock Toyota Corolla SEG
Battery 12v >> in-line fuse (front bonet) >> Prokick 2.0cap (rear bonet beside monoblock) >> Shuttle Lab monoblock (rear bonet) +ve from capicitor >> 2sub
ALL Cable 4AWG, Grounding Cable same as 4AWG (less than 1feet) to vehicle body chasis, sub 8AWG cable
Recent add:- 5 Point Grounding 4AWG Cable to Alternator 1point, Engine chasis 2point, CarBody 2point (adding because due to the vehicle engine spark / idle / electricity no enough stable)

Testing 1 Week already;
SQ Slow music which bass sound come slow 1 by 1 okie no problem at all;
SPL Bass like continuously coming in second, headlight dimming problem; everything light dimming; monoblock totally suck all the battery watt;
Today just add another Prokick 2.0digital farad on the shuttle lab monoblock, its only help a bit  blush.gif [lesser dimming problem]
Future need to change bigger alternator / dynamo ? or got another way to solve this ?

Soon upgrade PXA-H100, Alpine minimum RMS per channel 100w 4Ω x 4 channel, throw away my 6x9" useless boston acoustic (tweeter quite harsh sound) haha...
Btw add Raizin Volt Stabilizer will its help or not ? Coz today testing on my car, like nothing special happen de (what use of this item?)
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That's why I always says that, a capactior is a junk that only helps on seller's profit but seldom helps on buyer's problems..
http://forum.realmofexcursion.com/electric...-capacitor.html
A good readups on why capacitor are useless.
The problem with lights still dimming, it is because you wire your sub at lowest impedence. You should wire them atleast 2 or 4ohm. Bigger watt numbers does not means it will be good to your power supply system. Don't know why now still got people like to boil water from the amp(most of your power turned in to heat, not power to the sub)
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/pr...en_US&p_status=
If you read on the specs of the above amp, the efficiency drops when the impedence is lower. This is a branded SPL amp. SO for your amp the efficiency will be lower and you wired them for 1ohm.


Added on April 8, 2010, 9:35 am
QUOTE(robinhood @ Apr 8 2010, 08:38 AM)
Well, at least the ICE industry is going to thrive with the existence of more of this group of people. laugh.gif
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Yeah, with this group of people, then only the ICE industry can survive.
And sometimes I just like to organise teh tarik meetups, I can futher cheat people.

This post has been edited by supersound: Apr 8 2010, 09:35 AM
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post Apr 8 2010, 11:10 AM

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My daddy not rich as well, i come out with very poor family, living in born at KL stay taman midah cheras, then move Shah alam for 10 years, parent got 5 brother and sister include myself.

Through hard working, mom selling wan tan mee, economy rice etc so on. Helping mom since young, and work part-timer also to earn some pocket money. While my dad seem good on mechinical industry being doing well so far so good. All my family being study hard ofc dont want waste parent money.

Slowly by slowly from poor to medium well family la, the move to klang, selangor coz father medium industry in klang, kampung jawa. Then i continue going college as well and now working outside (not with my daddy lolz)

15k all is my hard working money lolz, i do my own business as well every month income likely 5k per month and i'm married already la as my avatar is my 1 years old son =.=

As businessmen, haha u can come visit me =.= kind of kinky stuff muwawawawa........ got 7 branch my sister, mom, me and some other partnership shop.

QUOTE(bafukie @ Apr 8 2010, 06:00 AM)
15k for ur setup.... u ada kana ppl parang ah?  why so bloody expensive?
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Why not lolz installation labour cost more than 2k ++ and my setup using all monster cable@ 300 series ® Audio Interconnect (2-Channel x 3 pcs direct to HU)
to monoblock 6meter long x 1pcs, to front seat 2 amplifier 2m x 2 pcs and very good ICE cable Xtra Low Noise construction provides advanced noise rejection up to 60dB so all you hear is the sound of entertainment. Costly about 1.5k only RCA cable.

Couldn't be bother lolz, iayah me seldom go outside gathering with friends, somemore married life its not easy to meet up more ICE friends, i do go other ICE shop to survey price n so on.
Luckily got this forum, icehifi, zerotohundred help me out, if not i could spend more than 20k now.

Btw if i rich enough, why i still using toyota corolla seg 1.6 [modify to 1.6 Twincam silvertop 20v] this car no need to installment, just pump petrol, every 5,000 mileage service 1 time, no problem for sparepart and so on. It is really nice sedan car during 199x till 2003 year.

This post has been edited by Kar Leong: Apr 8 2010, 12:14 PM
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post Apr 8 2010, 11:48 AM

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To the oldman that still looking for arguement, nope, I'm respecting the old ones basically, if I cause him to get stroke(since that oldman like to eat alot of expensive but unhealthy food and have to rely on medicine to keep blood pressure low) and suddenly mycarhifi.com come a thread that "our brother youngaccordguy got stroke because like to argue with someone in forums" then it will be bad to me, but it will good to our local forum, the end of another dirty businesman that trying his best on making a living by conning newbies.

You see, you always over estimate yourself-you can cause someone to get stroke???
Just ask yourself again-just who the fark are you??
PPL eating expensive and unhealthy food you also know??
PPL have to rely on medicine to keep BP low you also know??
And cursing ppl to get stroke just because someone cannot stand your nonsense??? (This shows what type of person you are)
I termed this bullshit out of a filthy mind without any solid facts!!
But come to think of it, you are always speaking without thinking, if you can think, that is.
And hide your stupidity by running around chicken bones avoiding answering ppl's questions on your bullshit replies!!

Dirty business man trying to his best on making a living by conning newbies??? Are you talking about yourself??
Just read again your signature-what your are selling?? Those value for money crap speakers??



And sometimes I just like to organise teh tarik meetups, I can futher cheat people.

You see, your conscience is clear-your objective of organising meet ups is to cheat ppl!!!

This post has been edited by pisces: Apr 8 2010, 12:08 PM
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post Apr 8 2010, 12:13 PM

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Nonono, oldman, the last statement is I help you to say, if not, why you will have regular teh tariks at night in the same place? Until early morning?


Added on April 8, 2010, 12:17 pmKar Leong : If you do more research on other forums, like DIYMA and realmofexcursion with yahoo and wiki as backups, don't forget also bcae1.com, I'm pretty sure you will only spend rm10000 for your current setup without changing amps for no reason.

This post has been edited by supersound: Apr 8 2010, 12:17 PM
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post Apr 8 2010, 12:47 PM

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Nonono, oldman, the last statement is I help you to say, if not, why you will have regular teh tariks at night in the same place? Until early morning?

Superjunk, this goes to show how shallow minded you are!! mad.gif
Besides our ICE TTs, there are countless TTs involving other hobbies such as car mods, detailing, photography, just to name a few.
You mean to tell us the organisers of these TTs are all out to cheat newbies??
Or is it you are the only one with this objective in mind??? doh.gif


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post Apr 8 2010, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 8 2010, 09:16 AM)
Yeah, with this group of people, then only the ICE industry can survive.
And sometimes I just like to organise teh tarik meetups, I can futher cheat people.
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without that group of people... the industry did survived... if not why old ICE shops are still around since the 90s till today? why new good ICE shops still keeps popping up like mushrooms till today? and ICE competition still organised with hundreds of competitiors?

and organise TT to cheat people?
again, talking about 0 profits, enthusiasm and free help.. guess they never exist huh supersound?
or you just got so desperate of clearing your chikai-ton under your bed but still phailed... brows.gif

and you can further cheat people?
meaning you did some con jobs before? brows.gif now with this, i like to warn the ICERs when buying stuff from you... beware of this conman!
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Wah supersound and pisces tak cukup cukup lagi ke? I just want to say it takes 2 hands to make a sound. By the way, just let the forummers judge who's right and who's the trouble maker. But engaging in unconstructive arguments is a good way to make you feel young again. laugh.gif Don't u think so? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kar Leong @ Apr 8 2010, 02:13 AM)
Well i have to do this , recently i upgrade my ICE Setup example in my signature, within 2 week i almost spend more than 15k setup above; I would like to share my experience with you all; thumbup.gif
First 1st lastweek i use Debezt monoblock 1000w bridge to 1Ω to kick 2 x Rockford Fosgate T112D4 DVC 4Ω Dual (which each sub need 600w-1200w peak) both sub woffer need 1200w
So i add another monoblock same brand Debezt, 2 monoblock kick 2 sub parellel-wiring but guess what ? The monoblock over heat / lighting protection come out and in / sometime have woofer sound sometime cut off  rclxub.gif
Yes if your monoblock underpower will coz overheat n auto cut-off; to solve this change better monoblock [more power needed in watt]
at last the monoblock still under warranty, so change to Shuttle LAB 1700W class D monoblock [Prokick sister?] and really can kick 2 sub-woofer with series-parallel wiring at 1Ω [really awesome]

Car Battery:- N70Z/L AH75 12v [upgrading done]
Car Alternator:- Stock Toyota Corolla SEG
Battery 12v >> in-line fuse (front bonet) >> Prokick 2.0cap (rear bonet beside monoblock) >> Shuttle Lab monoblock (rear bonet) +ve from capicitor >> 2sub
ALL Cable 4AWG, Grounding Cable same as 4AWG (less than 1feet) to vehicle body chasis, sub 8AWG cable
Recent add:- 5 Point Grounding 4AWG Cable to Alternator 1point, Engine chasis 2point, CarBody 2point (adding because due to the vehicle engine spark / idle / electricity no enough stable)

Testing 1 Week already;
SQ Slow music which bass sound come slow 1 by 1 okie no problem at all;
SPL Bass like continuously coming in second, headlight dimming problem; everything light dimming; monoblock totally suck all the battery watt;
Today just add another Prokick 2.0digital farad on the shuttle lab monoblock, its only help a bit  blush.gif [lesser dimming problem]
Future need to change bigger alternator / dynamo ? or got another way to solve this ?

Soon upgrade PXA-H100, Alpine minimum RMS per channel 100w 4Ω x 4 channel, throw away my 6x9" useless boston acoustic (tweeter quite harsh sound) haha...
Btw add Raizin Volt Stabilizer will its help or not ? Coz today testing on my car, like nothing special happen de (what use of this item?)
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Throw where? I need it for my old ride le ~~~
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post Apr 8 2010, 04:21 PM

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throw into my home store la ... perhap throw into my mother toyota corrola year 2003 crystal light version. Or my daddy merz E280 muwawawawawawa
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post Apr 8 2010, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(robinhood @ Apr 8 2010, 03:51 PM)
Wah supersound and pisces tak cukup cukup lagi ke? I just want to say it takes 2 hands to make a sound. By the way, just let the forummers judge who's right and who's the trouble maker. But engaging in unconstructive arguments is a good way to make you feel young again. laugh.gif Don't u think so? tongue.gif
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I just love your statement sometimes. But please forgive him, his business are pretty bad now. Just happen my PC been attacked by a trojan and I accidently saw his post after a full PC restore. It is no good sometimes to let an oldman to do 1 man show, correct?

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 8 2010, 05:41 PM)
I just love your statement sometimes. But please forgive him, his business are pretty bad now. Just happen my PC been attacked by a trojan and I accidently saw his post after a full PC restore. It is no good sometimes to let an oldman to do 1 man show, correct?
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My business bad also you know???
And it is also no good sometimes to let a moron to do 1 man show, right??
And what's wrong being old??
Discrimination again??

This post has been edited by pisces: Apr 8 2010, 07:01 PM
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post Apr 8 2010, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Kar Leong @ Apr 8 2010, 07:10 AM)
My daddy not rich as well, i come out with very poor family, living in born at KL stay taman midah cheras, then move Shah alam for 10 years, parent got 5 brother and sister include myself.

Through hard working, mom selling wan tan mee, economy rice etc so on. Helping mom since young, and work part-timer also to earn some pocket money. While my dad seem good on mechinical industry being doing well so far so good. All my family being study hard ofc dont want waste parent money.

Slowly by slowly from poor to medium well family la, the move to klang, selangor coz father medium industry in klang, kampung jawa. Then i continue going college as well and now working outside (not with my daddy lolz)

15k all is my hard working money lolz, i do my own business as well every month income likely 5k per month and i'm married already la as my avatar is my 1 years old son =.=

As businessmen, haha u can come visit me =.= kind of kinky stuff muwawawawa........ got 7 branch my sister, mom, me and some other partnership shop.
Why not lolz installation labour cost more than 2k ++ and my setup using all monster cable@ 300 series ® Audio Interconnect (2-Channel x 3 pcs direct to HU)
to monoblock 6meter long x 1pcs, to front seat 2 amplifier 2m x 2 pcs and very good ICE cable Xtra Low Noise construction provides advanced noise rejection up to 60dB so all you hear is the sound of entertainment.  Costly about 1.5k only RCA cable.

Couldn't be bother lolz, iayah me seldom go outside gathering with friends, somemore married life its not easy to meet up more ICE friends, i do go other ICE shop to survey price n so on.
Luckily got this forum, icehifi, zerotohundred help me out, if not i could spend more than 20k now.

Btw if i rich enough, why i still using toyota corolla seg 1.6 [modify to 1.6 Twincam silvertop 20v] this car no need to installment, just pump petrol, every 5,000 mileage service 1 time, no problem for sparepart and so on. It is really nice sedan car during 199x till 2003 year.
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wa... 1.5k on the RCA onli? perhaps u shud go check how much it cost on ebay. it's 300 series onli. if u r happy with wat u paid, ok la. but since u said it's ur hardearned money, i suggest u to do some hardcore research first before buying. save 5k can buy a lot for ur kids. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ckmoy007 @ Apr 8 2010, 08:45 PM)
wa... 1.5k on the RCA onli? perhaps u shud go check how much it cost on ebay. it's 300 series onli. if u r happy with wat u paid, ok la. but since u said it's ur hardearned money, i suggest u to do some hardcore research first before buying. save 5k can buy a lot for ur kids. smile.gif
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