thanks for the additional info. p80 is in my list as well. but one forumer told me that it is difficult to get one now as most shops got no stock available. dont know how far this is true though.

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Added on March 29, 2010, 7:25 pmi would love to own a pure deck, at least a d2. but i dont know if i can afford it. i saw a d1 for sale, how is it compared to d2?

i want a decent setup. guess my total budget is about 9k only. tot of allocating about 1.5 or less for HU. about 2k for 4 ch amp for front. 1.5 to 2k for front 2 way. 1k for 1 12'' sub (not sure its enough for a sedan), and 1.5k for amp for sub. of course about 1k for installations but i dont know if this is enough for a good installation.

and i do understand on what u meant. i dont want to spend more than i can afford and besides this will be installed in a very old car. so there are some noise that i simply cannot eliminate. i feel that there's no point spending so much because of this. i just need something that can satisfy me. i have had 1k setup, but having listened to a few setups, i hate my current setup. so, i am just looking for something that can satisfy me. my benchmark setup is a very simple setup. only front 2 way and an amp with drx786usb. this guy does not have any sub but the bass was sufficient to me. vocals and the rest of the sound were very musical, warm and nice. i loved it. but cant afford the amp and front comp that guy uses.

This post has been edited by ddv_nk: Mar 29 2010, 07:25 PM

Yup, you are right, because it is old model and replaced by P80RSII. Why I prefer P80 is because it will be cheaper than P802. Unles you can get P802 from US which is using copper chasis. Both of them are the same thing, except some changes on the faceplate and display. Our local P802 got no copper chasis.

Installations? What do you mean? You mentioned amps, speakers, Hu but how about RCA, power cables, speaker wires? This is something you have to look into also.

BTW, I still have some Belden speaker wires for sale, model is 5200UE and rm3.10 per meter.

This post has been edited by supersound: Mar 29 2010, 08:44 PM

the way u allocate ur budget is quite gud and i suppose u r able to get a decent system if u are able to tune it. on a side note, D2 is not a pure deck, D1 is. Pure deck is just a player without processor.

i set aside 1k for installations meaning for rca, cables n all those stuff needed.

thanks for the clarification again. as for the belden speaker wires, it is still not my priority yet. need a HU first. thanks for the offer anyway.

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Added on March 30, 2010, 3:27 pmthanks. i just hope i can raise the funds i need soon. i did not know what a pure deck was. i thought it was. denon dct-z1 ispure deck? what is a processor and its purpose?

in terms of sq, how is d2 different than d1? mind to explain?

This post has been edited by ddv_nk: Mar 30 2010, 03:27 PM

Z1 is a pure deck, in fact most denon are pure decks. processor means built in crossover, EQ, time alignment, gain controls and etc. in terms of sound D2 and D1 has differences in how they process the sound. most old skool players like pure deck, for its analog souding character, on the other hand it's harder to tune. i like D2 more cos of its detail, character of the sound and staging. find it quite hard to get those on D1. D1 has fuller midrange, D2 has thinner mid especially if u use the processor but u have more stuffs to play with. u just need to listen to both and choose wat u really need. both type of HUs has its own followers.

I will recommend the D2 instead of the D1 if you are a newbie and have the budget for it. With a simple built-in processor, u will be able to tune them conveniently instead have to fiddle around with various tuning components or a full-fledge processor.

Well, sound characteristics and preference are very personal. But as far as I am concern, I will choose the D2 without much doubt due to its superiority in producing details (which is very important with my favourite music genre i.e. smooth jazz, instrumentals and R&B). If you prefers vocal more than anything else, perhaps the D1 could be a good bet. But I will take a Mcintosh HU at anytime if a pure deck is what I am looking for. Anyway, the D1 has been phased out years ago and u might have problems in sourcing for parts.

...... Why pure decks? It is not for newbies anyway..... Especially under car enviroment. Getting a Hu with built in processor is better, atleast when need to change settings, it can be done by finger tip rather than have to change components and recalculate everything.

superjunk, changing settings need to change components and recalculate??
What components??? What you need to recalculate??
And why pure decks are not for newbies??
And why pure decks are not suitable for in car environments??

can someone customize a SQ set for me? i don't want sub-woofer.

budget RM1500

This post has been edited by leowjc: Mar 31 2010, 05:30 PM

i got a question but here's my current setup:

HU: alpine CDE-9873E
AMP: alpine v12 MRV-F345 4-channel
front speakers: coral DLK-165 components 6.5" mounted on door
rear speakers: stock
subwoofer: 10" infinity...dunno wut model haha
oh yeah, and car: myvi

so anyway, im thinking of getting rid of the subwoofer cuz it's taking too much space. so then i'll need something to cover the lower freq range right. is there any recommended speaker for the rear to handle bass? lets say budget rm1k

im aware that any component can never replace a subwoofer. i just wanna know what's my best option to cover the lower freq range under 1k w/o a subwoofer taking space in my small small boot ;p

oops sorry to leave this out... i mostly listen to metal

This post has been edited by dvlzplayground: Apr 4 2010, 09:42 AM

maybe a 8" sub/midbass up front.

at front already got 6.5" the door..no place to put another midbass ;p

im thinking of replacing the rear speaker at the door. IINM it's a 6" (cannot rmmbr, quite long didnt play ICE dy). is it possible to juz get a coaxial 6", n tune it only for low freq from my amp? if get another component, wont be using the tweeter since, as i said, only for low freq. i think if got another tweeter it'll just kacau the front one hehe

This post has been edited by dvlzplayground: Apr 4 2010, 09:42 AM

the 8" no need to install at the door, can install else where at the cost of ur SQ. coaxials wun give u better bass than comp set. so the onli solution is a 8" or 6x9" playing the lows onli. another option since u said ur sub is taking too much space, try getting a free air sub, just need to hook on ur backseat or board and the bass is all there. no need box/enclosure for it.

I want to ask about Dynaudio Mk2ii 6 1/2" - 7" 4Ω - 100watt [peak 200watt] will give more bass compare with other component set ?
Because i really want to remove my 6x9" Boston acoustic s953, this component set really cutting off my SQ - sub sound badly. Not very good for sq, how to solve this setup?

This post has been edited by Kar Leong: Apr 4 2010, 03:12 PM

told u last time 6x9" are not for SQ setup, if u like boston, the PRO series gives quite a solid midbass. Dynaudio are power hungry monster, u need to feed them with clean and powerful in order for them to sound nice, if u have the correct amp, dynaudio is a powerful weapon. altho it rates 100w rms, u need find an amp with 150w rms and above so dat u have more headroom.

Currently owned a 'Brother's' own brand tweeters and midbass driver on front door (Saga BLM), however really not satisfy with the tweeter, high is harsh, too much around 3-10khz, adi did a trick on the crossover unit, now not harsh than before, but the high frequency part is not satisfied...My HU is Kenwood KDC-U346, from the spec stated, the treble adjustment is @ 10khz +-8dB (i expect the adjustment is 14-16khz). So i can't raise it too much, else it will raise the 3-10kHz range too much also. So i need the tweeter that can play >10kHz louder than <10khz in nature.

Guys, any recommendation on tweeter? Maybe i too depends on EQ on my all audio setup before, thats why i'm suffer now, i just can't change the characteristic on the treble side from HU, so have to invest on tweeter. Budget around RM150. thanks.

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 5 2010, 12:43 AM

ooo alright. any recommendations for a good-for-lows 6x9"?

maybe u can ask kar leong if he is letting go his 6x9... u going to use amp to push it right? without amp, no speaker can give gud bass.

brother and sister,recently when i juz slightly turn on higher my subwoofer lvl,then prob came out,at 1st is left mid bass no sound,then after few days,right mid bass no sound,what happen??
at 1st i tot is the 1 F capacitor behind spoilt ad,but i check on the net,it could be my battery and alternator,it seems like need 2 change,but changing to a bigger alternator will drag my car down,so if i change to bigger capacity battery or high ca battery,will it solve it???

yeap, 2 ch for front n 2 ch for rear. thx!