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post Jan 15 2014, 08:27 PM

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post Jan 16 2014, 01:37 AM

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NEW AEON GOLD VISA CARD

Transaction Date: 31/12/2013
Posting Date: 1/1/2014
Transaction amount: IDR 225000
Amount charged: MYR 71.20
Effective rate: IDR 1 = MYR 0.000316
Visa rate: IDR 1 = MYR 0.000270
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post Jan 16 2014, 02:33 PM

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AEON Watami Visa

Transaction Date: 15/01/2014
Posting Date: 15/01/2014
Transaction amount: USD 81.74
Amount charged: MYR 270.13
Effective rate: USD 1 = MYR 3.304747
Visa rate: USD 1 = MYR 3.272051

Bank charge is 1%
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post Jan 16 2014, 02:38 PM

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post Jan 16 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 16 2014, 02:38 PM)
funny how i managed to get 3.075 sweat.gif
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Their system gone koo-koo right before Christmas....or you are on Santa good list.
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post Jan 17 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 16 2014, 02:38 PM)
funny how i managed to get 3.075 sweat.gif
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Mine one more funny. two rate for one day different only.

i use my credit card at taiwan. why there is a big differrent exchange rate for two days?

visa at that day is around rm1= twd9(100twd= 11.11)

5 January 2014-sunday watson, twd1206 = rm123.68. the rate is 9.75(100twd=10.15) (extremely high)

6 January 2014-monday watson, twd399 = rm 44.04, the rate is 9.05 (100twd=11.04)(same like visa)

6 January 2014-monday aso shoes, twd 13531 = rm1493, the rate is 9.05 (same like visa), if they give me 9.75 like 5 january-sunday, credit card will only charge me rm1388.

why the rate is different? is that sunday rate is lower? any body know abot it? i ask aeon cs, and she give me a stupid answer. all refer to visa rate. i think someone call visa to ask about it?


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post Jan 17 2014, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(jkngo2003 @ Jan 17 2014, 11:08 AM)
Mine one more funny. two rate for one day different only.

i use my credit card at taiwan. why there is a big differrent exchange rate for two days?

visa at that day is around rm1= twd9(100twd= 11.11)

5 January 2014-sunday watson, twd1206 = rm123.68. the rate is 9.75(100twd=10.15) (extremely high)

6 January 2014-monday watson, twd399 = rm 44.04, the rate is 9.05 (100twd=11.04)(same like visa)

6 January 2014-monday aso shoes, twd 13531 = rm1493, the rate is 9.05 (same like visa), if they give me 9.75 like 5 january-sunday, credit card will only charge me rm1388.

why the rate is different? is that sunday rate is lower? any body know abot it? i ask aeon cs, and she give me a stupid answer. all refer to visa rate. i think someone call visa to ask about it?
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5 January 2014-sunday watson, twd1206 = rm123.68. the rate is 9.75(100twd=10.15) (extremely high)

Please note your image shows you did the transaction on 4th Jan (Saturday) and not 5th.
Effective Rate = 0.1025538

Posting Date: 6th January (Monday) Visa rate 1 TWD = RM0.110142


6 January 2014-monday watson, twd399 = rm 44.04, the rate is 9.05 (100twd=11.04)(same like visa)
Effective Rate = 0.11037

Posting Date: 7th (Tuesday) Visa Rate = 0.108989

Since the posting dates were different, not a surprise the rates are different. But what surprised me is the transaction where it was posted on 6th Jan, where your effective rate was lower than Visa' rate but not the case for the transaction posted on 7th January.

So I can conclude that somehow they do not follow Visa's rate but their own system.



QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 16 2014, 02:33 PM)
AEON Watami Visa

Transaction Date: 15/01/2014 
Posting Date: 15/01/2014 
Transaction amount: USD 81.74 
Amount charged: MYR 270.13 
Effective rate: USD 1 = MYR 3.304747 
Visa rate: USD 1 = MYR 3.272051 

Bank charge is 1%
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This makes sense unlike bear bear's where his conversion rate is really really unbelievable making him the luckiest person on earth.
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post Jan 17 2014, 03:45 PM

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Sometimes I wonder about timing differences.

Say you buy an online purchase from Amazon at 1am 17-Jan Malaysia time.
That makes it 9am 16-Jan California time.

Does the Visa rate take 17-Jan or 16-Jan?
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post Jan 17 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 17 2014, 03:36 PM)
5 January 2014-sunday watson, twd1206 = rm123.68. the rate is 9.75(100twd=10.15) (extremely high)

Please note your image shows you did the transaction on 4th Jan (Saturday) and not 5th.
Effective Rate = 0.1025538

Posting Date: 6th January (Monday) Visa rate 1 TWD = RM0.110142
6 January 2014-monday watson, twd399 = rm 44.04, the rate is 9.05 (100twd=11.04)(same like visa)
Effective Rate = 0.11037

Posting Date: 7th (Tuesday) Visa Rate = 0.108989

Since the posting dates were different, not a surprise the rates are different. But what surprised me is the transaction where it was posted on 6th Jan, where your effective rate was lower than Visa' rate but not the case for the transaction posted on 7th January.

So I can conclude that somehow they do not follow Visa's rate but their own system.
This makes sense unlike bear bear's where his conversion rate is really really unbelievable making him the luckiest person on earth.
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for my case, the transition on friday, saturday and sunday, effective rate is 0.10255 which is lower than visa rate
for transition on monday the rate is same as visa rate.
bear bear transition oso on friday and get the super low rate.

so can conclude that friday or weekend will get super low rate compare to weekday. hehe.
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QUOTE(namh @ Jan 16 2014, 01:37 AM)
NEW AEON GOLD VISA CARD

Transaction Date: 31/12/2013
Posting Date: 1/1/2014
Transaction amount: IDR 225000
Amount charged: MYR 71.20
Effective rate: IDR 1 = MYR 0.000316
Visa rate: IDR 1 = MYR 0.000270
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namh's above transaction posted on Wednesday which was Public Holiday - unless Indonesia not a public holiday.

Same as CoffeeDude transaction posted on 16 January which falls on a Thursday where both effective rate higher than Visa's.

QUOTE(jkngo2003 @ Jan 17 2014, 04:00 PM)
for my case, the transition on friday, saturday and sunday, effective rate is 0.10255 which is lower than visa rate
for transition on monday the rate is same as visa rate.
bear bear transition oso on friday and get the super low rate.

so can conclude that friday or weekend will get super low rate compare to weekday. hehe.
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You might just be right, AEON cards go haywire on weekends, hahaha. But your effective rate was not super low but near spot rate whereas bear bear's USD/MYR rate was really unbelievable.

Let's see more results, everyone - please spread your transactions with your AEON cards to fall on weekdays and weekends.

This post has been edited by Gen-X: Jan 17 2014, 06:11 PM
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Transation date 2014JAN18, Posting date 2014JAN19
Paypal GBP8, RM44.33

Currency converter GBP8, RM42.5461
https://travel.americanexpress.com/currency-converter

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post Jan 22 2014, 04:26 PM

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need to observe this watami card exchange rate before put the effort to apply
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post Jan 23 2014, 10:25 AM

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MBB2 Amex
Trans Date : 19/1/14
Post Date : 19/1/14
Trans amt : AUD$179.24
Amt Charged : RM534.58
Effective rate : 2.8908
MBB Amex rate : 2.9825


So that's is about 3.17%? dam exp
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post Jan 24 2014, 06:47 AM

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QUOTE(namh @ Jan 16 2014, 01:37 AM)
NEW AEON GOLD VISA CARD

Transaction Date: 31/12/2013
Posting Date: 1/1/2014
Transaction amount: IDR 225000
Amount charged: MYR 71.20
Effective rate: IDR 1 = MYR 0.000316
Visa rate: IDR 1 = MYR 0.000270
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Was thinking of using this card for Bali trip but looks like it is a very bad idea. Diff with Moneychanger's rate(0.000277) was 14%. Better bring cash.
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post Jan 27 2014, 09:41 PM

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Hi all sifu,

I have rhb signature visa and mbb2 amex cards.

During oversea, for weekday, i should use rhb signature visa to swipe, because visa got better currency rate plus rhb signature got 1% rebate, am i right?

For weekend, is it mbb2 amex the best choice? Is the currency rate after 5% rebate still better than rhb signature visa card?

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post Jan 29 2014, 10:19 PM

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RM29.02
Alliance Bank Visa
Exchange rate at visa
1 USD = 3.343508 MYR
http://corporate.visa.com/pd/consumer_serv..._ex_results.jsp
Admin Fee: 1.5%


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post Jan 30 2014, 11:35 PM

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Citibank Rewards Visa Platinum

Transaction Date: 26/01/2014
Transaction amount: IDR 650,000.00
Amount charged: RM 182.50
Effective rate: IDR 1juta = 280.77
Visa rate: IDR 1juta = MYR 274
Admin Fee: 2.55%

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Maybankard 2 American Express

Transaction Date: 26-Jan-2014
Posting Date: 28-Jan-2014
Transaction amount: IDR 212,300.00
Amount charged: RM 59.63
Effective rate: IDR 1juta = MYR 280.88
Visa rate: IDR 1juta = MYR 274
Admin Fee: 2.55%


Citibank Visa and Maybank Amex got same admin charges at 2.55%.. better just use Amex after this..
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1MYR=SGD0.383123
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post Feb 14 2014, 03:58 PM

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Transaction Date: 8/2/2014
Posting Date: 10/2/2014
Transaction amount: USD 260.00
Amount charged: MYR 881.39
MasterCard rate: USD 1 -> MYR 3.3225 (7-Feb)
effective conversion rate: 3.356398
admin fee: 1%
actual admin fee: 1.0202%

Transaction Date: 9/2/2014
Posting Date: 11/2/2014
Transaction amount: USD 29.95
Amount charged: MYR 101.91
MasterCard rate: USD 1 -> MYR 3.335 (10-Feb)
effective conversion rate: 3.368981
admin fee: 1%
actual admin fee: 1.0189%

Maybankard 2 Card : MasterCard, payment gateway : Paypal, Merchant : eBay
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post Feb 14 2014, 04:08 PM

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NEW AEON GOLD VISA CARD

Transaction Date: 12/2/2014
Posting Date: 13/2/2014
Transaction amount: USD 54.98
Amount charged: MYR 184.80
Effective rate: USD 1 = MYR 3.3612

Visa rate:
12/2 USD 1 = MYR 3.3418 (0.6%)
13/2 USD 1 = MYR 3.3280 (1%)

No more magic rate for me sad.gif

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