wanna know, nirox 2800 got enough power to push the water thro 1block and 2 rad???
Evogenix
Discussion about watercooling and the results, Version 2
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Dec 31 2005, 01:52 AM
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i just ngam ngam want to strat
wanna know, nirox 2800 got enough power to push the water thro 1block and 2 rad??? Evogenix |
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Dec 31 2005, 12:18 PM
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Very short answer to that based on experience
No, you need a higher head pressure pump to overcome the ressistance in flow. |
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Dec 31 2005, 01:06 PM
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someone want to sell BIX radiator or heatercore here???
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Dec 31 2005, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Dec 31 2005, 01:37 AM) Hehe...no time to take care. Maybe want to try dry ice... QUOTE(almostthere @ Dec 31 2005, 12:18 PM) Very short answer to that based on experience Nirox P2800 supposed to be a high pressure pump, so no problem when using it. No, you need a higher head pressure pump to overcome the ressistance in flow. |
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Dec 31 2005, 01:10 PM
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Dec 31 2005, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 31 2005, 01:07 PM) Hehe...no time to take care. Maybe want to try dry ice... kawan nirox P2800 punya HMaz 1.25m camtuh jer...tak kuat langsung wo. My Cyber Aqua does 3m and is a world of differenceNirox P2800 supposed to be a high pressure pump, so no problem when using it. |
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Jan 1 2006, 12:18 PM
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wanna ask a question to you guys
a fast water flow can repert a cycle in very fast time, a slow water flow can takes more heat to the rad in every cycle. i know sometime the performance is based on the design of a water block. So i listed out 3 blocks for discussion : 1. DD : TDX 2. DD : RBX 3. Asetek Waterchill:: Antartica Based on your own exp and opinions, Might to give me some ideas on waterblock in the list above like fast or slow water flow??? why??? Evogenix This post has been edited by Evogenix: Jan 1 2006, 12:20 PM |
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Jan 2 2006, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(Evogenix @ Jan 1 2006, 12:18 PM) wanna ask a question to you guys Sorry Evo, most of us don't have the liberty of having those 3 w/blocks at one time or one at a time a fast water flow can repert a cycle in very fast time, a slow water flow can takes more heat to the rad in every cycle. i know sometime the performance is based on the design of a water block. So i listed out 3 blocks for discussion : 1. DD : TDX 2. DD : RBX 3. Asetek Waterchill:: Antartica Based on your own exp and opinions, Might to give me some ideas on waterblock in the list above like fast or slow water flow??? why??? Evogenix And I think most of the tips and tricks regarding w/blocks, pumps etc. are already there in the pinned section compiled by the sargeant. O.T.: and soon... metalzone bulk will complete, and this w/cooling comunity expands... fresh meat, fresh meat, fresh meat... ooppss |
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Jan 2 2006, 03:09 AM
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CPU WaterBlocks
1. Swifteh Storm - 75USD - this is the top performing waterblock currently in retail. It is better suited to more powerful pumps, but still performs well with low flow/power pumps. 2. Swiftech MCW6002/6000 - 45USD - for low power/flow pumps these waterblocks are top performers.. with moderate restriction these waterblocks matched with low power pumps will net decent flow to allow usage of a second waterblock 3. Cooltechnica MP-05 - 50-65USD - a high restriction waterblock with excelent performance. while it does not outperform the Storm per pump power, its lower pricetag makes it an attractive choice. 4. Danger Den TDX - 52USD - while a good waterblock, it is not an optimum choice of waterblock for a high or low power pump system. I list it merely for completeness of the guide. 5. Danger Den RBX - 52USD - Again, a good waterblock, but not worth considering unless you have some desire for a 3 barb waterblock. 6. WhiteWater LE (all coper version) - 44USD - Origionaly designed by Cathar, this 3 barb waterblock performs well, but uses a dated design and is not optimal for maximum performance. taken from my tips and tricks sticky..pretty accurate analysis |
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Jan 3 2006, 01:16 AM
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moderno... have an advice ka?
Problem 1 Tight space when converted to SLi mode. Any ideas to improve? Thinking to upgraded the GPU heatsink... idea lost........ ![]() Problem 2 I'm using TT BW SE.. Planning to upgraded to Volcano SE.. I dunno whether the casing will fit or not... It will be like Mitsubishi EVO 9 front bonnet i guest... Compact!!!!!! ![]() Problem 3 SATA management looks ridiculous right? I have 'sorok' all the wires as I could... But the result? Most of the power cables stucked at the front 120mm airflow [in] route... Haiya... pening lor... ![]() Problem 4 Wire management. Rasa macam nak menangis dude.. Dont know what else the way to hide all the excess wires. Already 'selit' some wire under MOBO althought it so tight and sempit.. ![]() its make me pening ![]() but sometime it feels good to release my tension when looking it..... not the messy wires! ![]() |
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Jan 3 2006, 02:01 PM
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Jan 4 2006, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jan 2 2006, 03:09 AM) CPU WaterBlocks 1. Swifteh Storm - 75USD - this is the top performing waterblock currently in retail. It is better suited to more powerful pumps, but still performs well with low flow/power pumps. 2. Swiftech MCW6002/6000 - 45USD - for low power/flow pumps these waterblocks are top performers.. with moderate restriction these waterblocks matched with low power pumps will net decent flow to allow usage of a second waterblock 3. Cooltechnica MP-05 - 50-65USD - a high restriction waterblock with excelent performance. while it does not outperform the Storm per pump power, its lower pricetag makes it an attractive choice. 4. Danger Den TDX - 52USD - while a good waterblock, it is not an optimum choice of waterblock for a high or low power pump system. I list it merely for completeness of the guide. 5. Danger Den RBX - 52USD - Again, a good waterblock, but not worth considering unless you have some desire for a 3 barb waterblock. 6. WhiteWater LE (all coper version) - 44USD - Origionaly designed by Cathar, this 3 barb waterblock performs well, but uses a dated design and is not optimal for maximum performance. taken from my tips and tricks sticky..pretty accurate analysis QUOTE(JZZZZZ @ Jan 3 2006, 02:01 PM) JZZZZZ, welcome to the watercooling comunity Oh, by the way i've just got back my VGA from RMA.. now to finish the Storm G4 test... watch this space. O.T.: HEY! HEY! we've got our own xtreme cooling sub forums now |
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Jan 4 2006, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 4 2005, 10:44 PM) QUOTE(almostthere @ Dec 4 2005, 11:54 PM) And my results are:1. At house 32C ambient Storm G4, BIX 2, D4 Pump. 2600+ MXp oced till 2.535G at 1.664Vcore. Idle (sorry no pics) 40C Load = ![]() 2. In office 19C ambient Settings Same as No. 1. Idle = ![]() Load = ![]() WEIRD!!!!!! but i'd luv it... still remember last time for me to get around that clock= ![]() Still testing in progress.. I just can't figure it out why the idle temp's a bit on the high side.. but the load temps are delicious in both casses. |
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Jan 4 2006, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(amok @ Jan 4 2006, 11:16 AM) And my results are: very nice results!! was planning on getting that waterblock....how does it compare to the time when you're on air cooling? wat radiator you using?? got setup pic? 1. At house 32C ambient Storm G4, BIX 2, D4 Pump. 2600+ MXp oced till 2.535G at 1.664Vcore. Idle (sorry no pics) 40C Load = 2. In office 19C ambient Settings Same as No. 1. Idle = WEIRD!!!!!! but i'd luv it... still remember last time for me to get around that clock= Still testing in progress.. I just can't figure it out why the idle temp's a bit on the high side.. but the load temps are delicious in both casses. |
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Jan 4 2006, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ Jan 4 2006, 12:10 PM) very nice results!! was planning on getting that waterblock....how does it compare to the time when you're on air cooling? wat radiator you using?? got setup pic? sorry.. it's an OEM proc so no heat sink, just jamn it up with a MAZE 4 previously. Radiator? BIX2 (Black Ice Xtreme 2) + 2 x NMB 120mm Fans. Set up Pic? aiyah malulah, ... i'm no bling2 guy, posted pics a few pages back but since in good mood here it is again.![]() and here is the current result, a drop of 2C, this is natural due to the arctic silver's settlin in... and whoot!!! 2.6G @ 32C!!! ![]() amacam sarjan |
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Jan 4 2006, 04:16 PM
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bro amok : what type of coolant u used there?
and btw...i know this thing have been discussed in the previous post...but just wanna ask again... which is more better flow in here? : ---> Pump -> Radiator -> CPU -> Reservoir or Pump -> CPU -> Radiator - > Reservoir |
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Jan 4 2006, 04:41 PM
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@moderno : If u have a powerfull pumps like the MCP series
configuration to prevent preassure loss. This post has been edited by uzairi: Jan 4 2006, 04:42 PM |
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Jan 4 2006, 04:55 PM
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anather question :
if a powerful pump under high preassure for 24/7 usage, will this reduce its lifespan? Evogenix |
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Jan 4 2006, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(uzairi @ Jan 4 2006, 04:41 PM) @moderno : If u have a powerfull pumps like the MCP series but asetek do recommend Pump -> Radiator -> CPU -> Reservoir for the Hydor L02 series pump there...... camana pulak ek.. configuration to prevent preassure loss. |
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Jan 4 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(moderno @ Jan 4 2006, 04:16 PM) Q1. bro amok : what type of coolant u used there? A1. one caps of hydraX + 2 litre uv filtered water.Q2. which is more better flow in here? : ---> Pump -> Radiator -> CPU -> Reservoir or Pump -> CPU -> Radiator - > Reservoir A2. Read This Link (I think sniper did post this link a few pages back) QUOTE(Evogenix @ Jan 4 2006, 04:55 PM) anather question : No. it won't. The pump will last forever and ever, it will out lived you, your grandchildren and their grandchildren and their..... if a powerful pump under high preassure for 24/7 usage, will this reduce its lifespan? Evogenix amok QUOTE(moderno @ Jan 4 2006, 06:58 PM) Q3but asetek do recommend Pump -> Radiator -> CPU -> Reservoir for the Hydor L02 series pump there...... camana pulak ek.. A3 same as A2okay, now for some serious shite... this is I think is the final OCed result from my G4 rig cause don't think my Ram can go any further and the proc is near the ramp voltage. ![]() idle... ![]() Can't say it's a 5C rise from idle when oc'ed cause observe the system temp.. a 2C rise (cause of sudden rain this afternoon) neway, this is what i used to have when using the Maze4 wblock (with the same pump and rad) ![]() Conclusion... if those who'd thinking of upgrading their w/block, well this is the "Block". For those who'd like to try watercooling.. this block is worth looking at and think of it as an investment... dang i'd felt like a newbie w/cooler when got the result of this G4.. duhhh.. |
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