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post Dec 24 2005, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 23 2005, 10:46 PM)
That's an impressive "Budget" watercooling set. brows.gif  biggrin.gif

6600 w/block depends on yer budget oso, wanna good want like uzairi said get the DD Maze 4, wanna a cheap one get the aquarius one. 


uzairi@ good to see you being active again in watercooling department  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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got setup his project soon...hahaha...

got his stacker oledi for the wc goodies to party brows.gif flex.gif
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post Dec 24 2005, 08:17 PM

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Any idea where can get tubing slicon?And which one good for liquid? Battery water or coolant + water?
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post Dec 25 2005, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 24 2005, 08:17 PM)
Any idea where can get tubing slicon?And which one good for liquid? Battery water or coolant + water?
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must use coolant with batt water. coz batt water is deionised. if no coolant then it's gonna corrode the blocks.
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post Dec 25 2005, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(mhn21 @ Dec 24 2005, 05:20 PM)
all thanks to ur advice amok...  thumbup.gif

the maze4 looks good but mahal la... mebbe i'll go for the aquarius, but from a review i read it said that the the water channel in the WB is only abt 5mm deep and since i'm using 1/2" tubing it might kill the flow rate..

what do u guys think?

edit: can my nirox handle a TDX and a GPU block?
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hrmmmm.... depends on the loop, if cpu block->gpu block ->res->pump i'll guess it will do, but the BIX2 larrr, what fan?

QUOTE(moderno @ Dec 24 2005, 05:27 PM)
got setup his project soon...hahaha...

got his stacker oledi for the wc goodies to party brows.gif  flex.gif
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whoaaa blink.gif uzai is goin big time on w/cooling thumbup.gif thumbup.gif yeah.

QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 24 2005, 08:17 PM)
Any idea where can get tubing slicon?And which one good for liquid? Battery water or coolant + water?
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Tubing? ace hardware got a few decent tubes, kedai hardware... most clear tubes are silicone, rubber one mostly water hose and condoms.

IMHO opinion Distilled water or UV filtered water (the one that kills most living organism), where to get? ayo... battery water will do then... coolant depends which type, car radiator is not that good wif pc wcooling..
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post Dec 25 2005, 03:05 AM

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car radiator or radiator coolant for cars not suitable for pc WC?
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post Dec 25 2005, 04:54 PM

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I think the BIX2 is okay la. got 1 NMB and 1 nidec beta triblade. now i'm using one fan only and its quite cool.
u guys think can tahan?

and will the TT aquarius really restrict flow? cos its channel width is quite small right?
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post Dec 25 2005, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 25 2005, 01:44 AM)
IMHO opinion Distilled water or UV filtered water (the one that kills most living organism), where to get? ayo... battery water will do then... coolant depends which type, car radiator is not that good wif pc wcooling..
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Isn't true? That's means just using battery water la. tongue.gif
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post Dec 26 2005, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(mhn21 @ Dec 25 2005, 04:54 PM)
I think the BIX2 is okay la. got 1 NMB and 1 nidec beta triblade. now i'm using one fan only and its quite cool.
u guys think can tahan?

and will the TT aquarius really restrict flow? cos its channel width is quite small right?
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BIX2 needs high cfm fans to perform, otherwise even a BIP can vegetize(mensayurkan) the BIX2.

regarding TT aquarius... if you're in doubt bout the pressure drop, i'd suggest get a higher heads pump... one that can do 3.1m Hmax... but why not just give a try first with the nirox cause i'm a bit vague about your set up, if got pics brows.gif

QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Dec 25 2005, 07:48 PM)
Isn't true? That's means just using battery water la. tongue.gif
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif .. correctomondo mr ikan... most of the old timer w/cooler just use plain distilled water (pharmacy) or uv filltered water.. but when terdesak, battery water will do.
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post Dec 26 2005, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 23 2005, 10:46 PM)
uzairi@ good to see you being active again in watercooling department  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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A bit busy lah this sem summore no new toys to play.. Just sit down and look at you playing with your toys lor.. blush.gif

QUOTE(moderno @ Dec 24 2005, 05:27 PM)
got setup his project soon...hahaha...

got his stacker oledi for the wc goodies to party brows.gif  flex.gif
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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 25 2005, 01:44 AM)

whoaaa  blink.gif  uzai is goin big time on w/cooling  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif yeah.

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Haiya.. Don't say out loud lah.. Later if im done with it i'll sure you guys will acknowledge about it.. Dun worry lah.. whistling.gif blush.gif

QUOTE(moderno @ Dec 25 2005, 03:05 AM)
car radiator or radiator coolant for cars not suitable for pc WC?
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Last time im using a mixture of radiator coolant with battery water and in a few months i can see those green stuff sticked to the inner part of the tubings, damn mafan lah.. Now using only battery water and it works great for me. If you still insist on using coolant sargeant do recommend 1-2 capfull of coolant for the setup. flex.gif

This post has been edited by uzairi: Dec 26 2005, 02:51 AM
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post Dec 26 2005, 07:49 PM

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got any difference in temps for only using battery water without extra additives like car radiator coolant?
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post Dec 26 2005, 07:56 PM

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Coolant are use to have the UV effects and somesay to minimise the copper oxidisation. But to me i just use plain battery water and it's enough without the oxidisation issues.
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post Dec 27 2005, 11:31 AM

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Did I hear Stacker anyone? Hmmmmm......this is not good for me since I won't be the exclusive one using it for WC'ing anymore. Anyway, been busy trying to get my new RAM's running properly sampai terabai sini. Sorry guys.
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post Dec 27 2005, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Dec 26 2005, 07:49 PM)
got any difference in temps for only using battery water without extra additives like car radiator coolant?
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well, from prior experience.. with automotive additives temps are higher about 1~1.5 C... bear in mind that automotive additives are meant for anti-rust, anti-boil and anti freeze... it will of course effect the liquid properties in terms of viscocity, specific heat cap., etc... the list goes on and on..

QUOTE(almostthere @ Dec 27 2005, 11:31 AM)
Did I hear Stacker anyone? Hmmmmm......this is not good for me since I won't be the exclusive one using it for WC'ing anymore. Anyway, been busy trying to get my new RAM's running properly sampai terabai sini. Sorry guys.
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like I said.. uzai is goin big time with his next project, ordered a Storm G4 block, cant wait, cant wait.. unlike us still using our 486DX rig sweat.gif
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post Dec 27 2005, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 27 2005, 12:45 PM)
well, from prior experience.. with automotive additives temps are higher about 1~1.5 C... bear in mind that automotive additives are meant for anti-rust, anti-boil and anti freeze... it will of course effect the liquid properties in terms of viscocity, specific heat cap., etc... the list goes on and on..
like I said.. uzai is goin big time with his next project, ordered a Storm G4 block, cant wait, cant wait.. unlike us still using our 486DX rig  sweat.gif
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cheyh... 486DX konon... tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

hurm.... i guess might be pumping out my current coolant right now and replace with distilled water...

distilled water = ~~ RO water mesin tepi kedai (20 sen per liter) issit?
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Dec 27 2005, 11:31 AM)
Did I hear Stacker anyone? Hmmmmm......this is not good for me since I won't be the exclusive one using it for WC'ing anymore. Anyway, been busy trying to get my new RAM's running properly sampai terabai sini. Sorry guys.
Hahaha.. Im just a follower. blush.gif

QUOTE(amok @ Dec 27 2005, 12:45 PM)
like I said.. uzai is goin big time with his next project, ordered a Storm G4 block, cant wait, cant wait.. unlike us still using our 486DX rig  sweat.gif
Im oso using 486DX rig. blush.gif

QUOTE(moderno @ Dec 27 2005, 02:03 PM)
cheyh... 486DX konon...  tongue.gif  rolleyes.gif
blink.gif flex.gif

What amok said is right, car coolant just increases the temp around 1-2c and its meant to be an anti rust, anti boil and anti freeze. So its not nessasary for us to use it unless u want the UV effect and for those who dont use pure 100% distilled water or battery water.

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QUOTE(moderno @ Dec 27 2005, 02:03 PM)
cheyh... 486DX konon...  tongue.gif  rolleyes.gif

hurm.... i guess might be pumping out my current coolant right now and replace with distilled water...

distilled water = ~~ RO water mesin tepi kedai (20 sen per liter) issit?
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RO water???? what's R. O. stand for? Rip Off?

Distilled water is pure demineralized water which means it's pure H20 without any nutrients(which not good for drinking). It's a bit expensive last time I've got it about RM12 per 4 gallon bottle.

Mebbe the "mesin tepi kedai" Rip Off water is filltered water, check wheter it got UV bathing filtered, if got than thumbup.gif thumbup.gif you're good to go mebbe i'll try it myself 20sen per litter... hrmm ....

uzairi@ YEAH!!!! Long live the 486DX clan thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Dec 28 2005, 01:55 AM

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IIRC RO is Reverse Osmosis, let's quote from Wikipedia.
In simple terms, reverse osmosis is the process of pushing a solution through a filter that traps the solute on one side and allows the pure solvent to be obtained from the other side. More formally, it is the process of forcing a solvent from a region of high solute concentration through a membrane to a region of low solute concentration by applying a pressure in excess of the osmotic pressure. The membrane here is semipermeable, meaning it allows the passage of solvent but not of solute.

More of it is here --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Osmosis
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post Dec 28 2005, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 27 2005, 09:41 PM)
RO water???? what's R. O. stand for?  Rip Off?

Distilled water is pure demineralized water which means it's pure H20 without any nutrients(which not good for drinking). It's a bit expensive last time I've got it about RM12 per 4 gallon bottle.

Mebbe the "mesin tepi kedai" Rip Off water is filltered water, check wheter it got UV bathing filtered, if got than  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif you're good to go mebbe i'll try it myself 20sen per litter... hrmm ....

uzairi@  YEAH!!!! Long live the 486DX clan thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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nanti wa kasi check mesin tu got UV bathing filtered or not...hehe drool.gif
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post Dec 28 2005, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(amok @ Dec 26 2005, 12:37 AM)
biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif .. correctomondo mr ikan... most of the old timer w/cooler just use plain distilled water (pharmacy) or uv filltered water.. but when terdesak, battery water will do.
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me even more terdesak... use filtered tap water + coolant only laugh.gif

so far no more problem thumbup.gif
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Good to hear u back in here hmspower. rig ko amacam? Dah lama takde update bang

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