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minizian
post Oct 12 2005, 08:27 PM

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hi guys i was planning to buy some LCS for my comp..

wat brand can u suggest tat is the best for newbie.
i find tat the GB Galxy cooler look nice wif a fan atas the waterblock and cost Rm500 is tat a good chooice or is there any more choice outthere. I read some review tat TT big water hav issue wif the rediator and its water tank. ohmy.gif

anyway can ugiv me the link for the manufacture tat produce the LCS and some good LCS review site.

LCS>liquid cooling system.

really interesed on LCS so i come here to ask lo thumbup.gif



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post Oct 13 2005, 09:04 AM

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almost all lowyatians tat got watercooling system oso use these few brand only...Liang D5,Hydor,swiftech dc pump......

try other water pump oso not bad ma,such panworld....iwaki...sanso...those magnatic pump....confirm no regret...but of coz dun choose those hv too much heat dump
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post Oct 13 2005, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Oct 12 2005, 08:27 PM)
hi guys i was planning to buy some LCS for my comp..

wat brand can u suggest tat is the best for newbie.
i find tat the GB Galxy cooler look nice wif a fan atas the waterblock and cost Rm500 is tat a good chooice or is there any more choice outthere. I read some review tat TT big water hav issue wif the rediator and its water tank. ohmy.gif

anyway can ugiv me the link for the manufacture tat produce the LCS and some good LCS review site.

LCS>liquid cooling system.

really interesed on LCS so i come here to ask lo thumbup.gif
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GB Galaxy got some pretty good reviews and quite good performance, wa for 500 i would have gotten that if it came out earlier. Try pcmoddingmy.com they had a review for it other sites try google it loh.
If got more money then and get the swiftech kits which is one of the best WC (not water closet) Lowyat Bulk order got bring in.

Not sure what TT bigwater review say got radiator problem and water tank problem. But its agreed that the bigwater is a entry model kit with a low flow and pressure pump and small tubings. the radiator not really a problem. heh well i got no problems with it loh.

Other than that. heh try the sticky for some general overview of what LCS will be like cheers and welcome to water cooling http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=165070
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(HolyAk @ Oct 13 2005, 09:04 AM)
almost all lowyatians tat got watercooling  system oso use these few brand only...Liang D5,Hydor,swiftech dc pump......

try other water pump oso not bad ma,such panworld....iwaki...sanso...those magnatic pump....confirm no regret...but of coz dun choose those hv too much heat dump
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Well I suppose most of us would not have a panworld iwaki, due to the reason that it is freaking expensive. The last time I called iwaki malaysia to enquire about the MD20ZRT they quote me rm1500......... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
I ask got discount of any kind, and they said NO....since the pump made in Japan....
And the only pump from panworld that is still reasonable on price is only the 50z......, that also would come to a price of a d5..... sad.gif
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Oct 10 2005, 01:41 PM)
i wanna ask something

for those who used acrylic reservoirs, do u have to clean in very often ?
are u okay with a totall sealed acrylic reservoir ?
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hmm... i do have a acrylic reservoir.. smile.gif
but after using for a long time..there will got stain.
total sealed not very convenience for ppl who often clean up the system and fill in the water.
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post Oct 13 2005, 12:54 PM

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then juz get the sanso 1...same spec as iwaki md20rlt...made in japan too...which im using it now tongue.gif...btw the pump a lot silent than any other magnetic pump tat i hv b4,those r made in china
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post Oct 13 2005, 08:25 PM

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holyak: where u get the sanso? how much does it cost you to get 1 of them?
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post Oct 13 2005, 09:46 PM

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kepong ..... rm 460 for my magnetic pump sweat.gif
model : sanso PMD311
26 liter permin flow rate/3.5 max heads

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post Oct 14 2005, 01:11 AM

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The flow and mHead is not far away from a d5, but I was expecting higher head pressure than 3.5 max
but then I have to really see the P-Q graph, that is if there is any for the pump.
How about the heat dump? or the power consumption for the pump?

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post Oct 14 2005, 02:16 AM

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20watt heat dump,46watt consumption
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post Oct 14 2005, 10:50 AM

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did any try before using passive LCS system??? (fan less like the coller master hav 1 of it)

and also where to buy dry ice ar doh.gif and how much if u wan to buy
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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 13 2005, 12:07 PM)
Well I suppose most of us would not have a panworld iwaki, due to the reason that it is freaking expensive. The last time I called iwaki malaysia to enquire about the MD20ZRT they quote me rm1500......... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
I ask got discount of any kind, and they said NO....since the pump made in Japan....
And the only pump from panworld that is still reasonable on price is only the 50z......, that also would come to a price of a d5..... sad.gif
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wow TJye, you've found someone that can bring in the 50Z?.. can share more details on where about to get em? contact info that is.. if you don't mind. TQ.
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post Oct 16 2005, 12:39 AM

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Not anything special la I just went on to cooltechnica to check the price + shipping to malaysia for the 50z
I found out that for
1 unit = RM395/unit
2 units = RM362/unit
3 units = RM352/unit
5 units = RM344/unit
10 units = RM338/unit

I was thinking of hosting a bulk myself, but the problem is dunno who would want to join and dunno who will trust me.....

1 more problem is, that bulk may face taxation risk. There are ways of going about that also.


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post Oct 16 2005, 03:13 AM

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QUOTE(TJye @ Oct 16 2005, 12:39 AM)
Not anything special la I just went on to cooltechnica to check the price + shipping to malaysia for the 50z
I found out that for
1 unit = RM395/unit
2 units = RM362/unit
3 units = RM352/unit
5 units = RM344/unit
10 units = RM338/unit

I was thinking of hosting a bulk myself, but the problem is dunno who would want to join and dunno who will trust me.....

1 more problem is, that bulk may face taxation risk. There are ways of going about that also.
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just an info for taxed items...if the items found can be used apart from computer...then maybe facing a higher chance of tax....like radiator & pumps...
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post Oct 16 2005, 05:09 AM

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a saviour for bigwater maybe whistling.gif

THERMALTAKE VOLCANO 4005

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post Oct 16 2005, 07:43 AM

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eh guys, this kind of solution good or not yah ?

looks damn cool lah.....

100% passive radiator..... drool.gif drool.gif

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http://www.dirkvader.de/frame.php?site=htt...luefterlos.html

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post Oct 16 2005, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(dinster @ Oct 16 2005, 07:43 AM)
eh guys, this kind of solution good or not yah ?

looks damn cool lah.....

100% passive radiator.....  drool.gif  drool.gif

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http://www.dirkvader.de/frame.php?site=htt...luefterlos.html
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maybe 10 - 12 x 120mm fans have to be used in wanna do active cooling there...hehe rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 16 2005, 12:05 PM

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see this

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/d...wcoolers_9.html

why this wc worse than air cooling?
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post Oct 16 2005, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Oct 16 2005, 05:09 AM)
a saviour for bigwater maybe  whistling.gif

THERMALTAKE VOLCANO 4005

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i wonder the motherboard will "patah" becos of the big heat exchanger.

the passive cooling i mean is this TT

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is this passive LCS good or the active LCS???
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post Oct 16 2005, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Oct 16 2005, 05:09 AM)
a saviour for bigwater maybe  whistling.gif

THERMALTAKE VOLCANO 4005

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another new product from thermaltake to confuse ppl with new concept again.... laugh.gif
performance wise i think is a no, coz the water has to go thru so many loops, and the pump they provide is usually the usual sucky pump.....

just look at the recommended setup below, u can actually add this to big water sweat.gif sweat.gif
just imagine that poor pump had to go thru


QUOTE(dinster @ Oct 16 2005, 07:43 AM)
eh guys, this kind of solution good or not yah ?

looks damn cool lah.....

100% passive radiator.....  drool.gif  drool.gif

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http://www.dirkvader.de/frame.php?site=htt...luefterlos.html
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this what what i had in mind, but the one that i planned was the radiator is on top with the fins in vertical position.
it'll make a lot of difference because heat dissipated from the fins can escape ASAP in vertical position, rather than horizontal because the passage for heat is basically blocked


QUOTE(minizian @ Oct 16 2005, 08:18 PM)
i wonder the motherboard will "patah" becos of the big heat exchanger.

the passive cooling i mean is this TT

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is this passive LCS good or the active LCS???
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this is a passive liquid cooling system.

and passive LCS like Reserator and this cant perform.

the reserator structure is only a bottle structure, heat doesnt escape as fast as a radiator because the water is still " thick ", and there are no circulation in it.

for a passive LCS, the pipe must be connected to the surface, and not just to contain the water. surface area plays the most important role in passive cooling.
the more surface area, the faster the dissipation of heat

another thing is that, Alu get all those funny decomposition after a while after usage. so the performance will drop drastically if u dunt open up to clean it.


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