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 LYN Proton Wira Club (LYN-PWC) V-XXVI, Come in & let's discuss about Wira

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post May 2 2011, 04:43 PM

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now do transplant nid how much budget?? since govnt wan to ban all import on old spare parts n engines
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post May 2 2011, 04:51 PM

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How fast u ppl's done with ur stock wira???
shaky??
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post May 2 2011, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(jay @ May 2 2011, 04:43 PM)
now do transplant nid how much budget?? since govnt wan to ban all import on old spare parts n engines
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it depends on the type of engine you wants. ban will only have minimal effect for 4g93t user la.. since it's parts can be easily find.
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How much is estimated price for this stuffs?

Absorbers standard wira 1.6 4pc:
Springs standard wira 1.6 4pc:
Tire Michelin XM-1 14 inch 4pc:
Eneos Molybdenum :

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bookstore
post May 3 2011, 11:09 PM

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Wanted to get myself 1 wira 1.5 manual, age around 2000 - 2003

However, I do not have any closed mechanics. So I have to test drive the car myself at 2nd hand car dealer.

Wanna ask, what thing I must pay more attention on? Worried get a car with a lot big issues later.

Thx
SUSkyheng
post May 3 2011, 11:31 PM

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Cold start will be a good indication.... But then 8-11 years car, sure will have problems.... As long as chasis no problem, should be ok....
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post May 3 2011, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(bookstore @ May 3 2011, 11:09 PM)
Wanted to get myself 1 wira 1.5 manual, age around 2000 - 2003

However, I do not have any closed mechanics. So I have to test drive the car myself at 2nd hand car dealer.

Wanna ask, what thing I must pay more attention on? Worried get a car with a lot big issues later.

Thx
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1. before start the car, check the engine by open up the engine oil cap. see the internal. brownish or shiny. shiny better la.
2. open up radiator cap, see water clear or not. normally is clear de lo.. dun wanna see rust water.
3. start engine, let it run idle. listen to the exhaust sound. the rhythm of the beat should be even. unless they put highcam or something inside.
4. check engine vibration while idling.
5. rev the engine, listen the exhaust. no misfiring. no funny firecracker sound.
6. drive the car, in slow, accelerate, braking, cornering, and try all the gear from 1 to 5 and R.

btw, i have no idea how to check on the car chassis (whether did it suffer major accident b4 or not)

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post May 4 2011, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(wailup @ May 3 2011, 11:42 PM)
1. before start the car, check the engine by open up the engine oil cap. see the internal. brownish or shiny. shiny better la.
This, they can always change the engine oil.....
2. open up radiator cap, see water clear or not. normally is clear de lo.. dun wanna see rust water.
They can always wash it a day before.....
3. start engine, let it run idle. listen to the exhaust sound. the rhythm of the beat should be even. unless they put highcam or something inside.
This is the most important part, if engine no good, it will cost rm1000-2000 just to repair it back. Best to know when the car is left overnight. Cold start on next morning will tell thousand stories...
4. check engine vibration while idling.
Mounting problem are small matter, change the mounting and case closed. Unless chasis got problem.
5. rev the engine, listen the exhaust. no misfiring. no funny firecracker sound.
Not all can differenciate this.
6. drive the car, in slow, accelerate, braking, cornering, and try all the gear from 1 to 5 and R.
This is good for checking the suspension system.
btw, i have no idea how to check on the car chassis (whether did it suffer major accident b4 or not)
This, use your hand to feel it.....
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Answer you in green, no offence, let's discuss more on this, haha......
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post May 4 2011, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ May 1 2011, 02:11 AM)
let's see...

usually 2 or 3 ppl.
using shell also
changed the piston rings and one more part, can't remember what, but it solved white smoke problem.
tyre pressure 210
allignment abit off
most of the things are light.
idle mostly at traffic light and traffic jam
aircond compressor dunno, but got whistling sound when on aircon.
when overhaul carburetor, what is that?


Added on May 1, 2011, 2:25 am

yup, carb engine. very old car.
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hmmm... suggest full-service or overhaul the carburetor la... details i do not know, but generally is the mechanic will check which parts of the carburetor faulty then change it lor...
second thing is try change petrol lor. I have experience of very bad FC with Shell on MyVi (~23cents/km vs other brands' ~16 or ~17/km, for every tank; i tried for a lot of tanks), use Caltex/new Petronas/Esso.


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post May 4 2011, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(bookstore @ May 3 2011, 11:09 PM)
Wanted to get myself 1 wira 1.5 manual, age around 2000 - 2003

However, I do not have any closed mechanics. So I have to test drive the car myself at 2nd hand car dealer.

Wanna ask, what thing I must pay more attention on? Worried get a car with a lot big issues later.

Thx
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Thx for all the input. I'm not going to heavy use on this car, only on weekend drive, normal tesco, dinner etc. So, if I bought a wira, and it face radiator heat problem. Is it hard to solve?

Plan to buy a 10-12k wira. With 4-5k extra for repairing. Hope I'm good luck enuf.


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post May 4 2011, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(bookstore @ May 4 2011, 07:41 AM)
Thx for all the input. I'm not going to heavy use on this car, only on weekend drive, normal tesco, dinner etc. So, if I bought a wira, and it face radiator heat problem. Is it hard to solve?

Plan to buy a 10-12k wira. With 4-5k extra for repairing. Hope I'm good luck enuf.
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Since you going to spend 4-5k to repair..I think it is very good already..just make sure you get genuine parts..4-5k can done a lot repairing job..

Good luck drool.gif
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post May 4 2011, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(bookstore @ May 4 2011, 07:41 AM)
Thx for all the input. I'm not going to heavy use on this car, only on weekend drive, normal tesco, dinner etc. So, if I bought a wira, and it face radiator heat problem. Is it hard to solve?

Plan to buy a 10-12k wira. With 4-5k extra for repairing. Hope I'm good luck enuf.
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Even if you don't have mechanic to go check the car with you, if you got friend that been using Wira for years also can help as he can feel if the engine, gearbox or suspension got problem. See the gap on each door is it the same, see the fender gap to body is it align perfevtly, if got too wide different than that car maybe have been in accident and the chassis have bent. Check the underbody of the car and inside tyre space for rust, if rusty then you might need to replace that panel or cut and weld new metal plate.

If all the check I mention no problem, then probably the 5k will be enough for all the other repairs.


Added on May 4, 2011, 10:00 amAlso, check for oily place on the engine bay and underbody, if got means got leakage, which will be costly to repair. Check the exhaust got come out whitish or blueish smoke, this also can means need major repair. Also check for crack on the rear signal, if got then water can enter your boot space and changing the whole rear signal will cost you 200 - 400 bucks.

This post has been edited by xxboxx: May 4 2011, 10:00 AM
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post May 4 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ May 4 2011, 02:39 AM)
Answer you in green, no offence, let's discuss more on this, haha......
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offence not taken.. hahaha..
1. before start the car, check the engine by open up the engine oil cap. see the internal. brownish or shiny. shiny better la.
This, they can always change the engine oil..... change engine oil wont remove the brown/black stain on the metal parts, unless they took out the top cover and clean it.
2. open up radiator cap, see water clear or not. normally is clear de lo.. dun wanna see rust water.
They can always wash it a day before..... if they din wash, then you can know its condition. the water reservoir color will also tells you whether it uses coolant, or kena rust water alot...
3. start engine, let it run idle. listen to the exhaust sound. the rhythm of the beat should be even. unless they put highcam or something inside.
This is the most important part, if engine no good, it will cost rm1000-2000 just to repair it back. Best to know when the car is left overnight. Cold start on next morning will tell thousand stories...
4. check engine vibration while idling.
Mounting problem are small matter, change the mounting and case closed. Unless chasis got problem. small matter, but it can be a bargain point to lower down its selling price. coz we need to pay to repair it. or the seller repair it for you.
5. rev the engine, listen the exhaust. no misfiring. no funny firecracker sound.
Not all can differenciate this.
6. drive the car, in slow, accelerate, braking, cornering, and try all the gear from 1 to 5 and R.
This is good for checking the suspension system. and gearbox condition too.
btw, i have no idea how to check on the car chassis (whether did it suffer major accident b4 or not)
This, use your hand to feel it.....

QUOTE(bookstore @ May 4 2011, 07:41 AM)
Thx for all the input. I'm not going to heavy use on this car, only on weekend drive, normal tesco, dinner etc. So, if I bought a wira, and it face radiator heat problem. Is it hard to solve?

Plan to buy a 10-12k wira. With 4-5k extra for repairing. Hope I'm good luck enuf.
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if got 5k extra for repairing.. it's very very sufficient jor..
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post May 4 2011, 03:50 PM

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I green you blue, haha... Well, there's more to check also..... But I doubt those second hand car dealer will do so much that I stated earlier just to make a rm10-14k business....
As for engine, too dirty or too clean will indicate something fishy....
So, rm4-5k is a good price to recon back the car.... Just an overhaul will touch rm2k while balance 3k can make up back the interior nicely....
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 2 2011, 02:54 PM)
Is 4g93 block and 4g93t block the same?
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When you say engine block, I assume you are talking only about the bottom-end. 4G93T bottom-end has additional piston oil squirts to cool the piston. It fits a 4G93P header without any issues as all the oil and coolant pipes line up with bottom and head. Proton gearbox will fit into the 4G93T bottom-end.

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post May 4 2011, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ May 4 2011, 04:01 PM)
When you say engine block, I assume you are talking only about the bottom-end. 4G93T bottom-end has additional piston oil squirts to cool the piston. It fits a 4G93P header without any issues as all the oil and coolant pipes line up with bottom and head. Proton gearbox will fit into the 4G93T bottom-end.
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Yes I'm talking about the bottom end only, as that is where the chassis number is stamped. My friend 93 NA thinking about going for 93t but use back his block so no need go puspakom. Guess cannot then.
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post May 4 2011, 09:27 PM

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Thx for all the input wailup, kyheng, xxboxx and Lineage
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post May 4 2011, 10:04 PM

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Bottom line, just to make it simple for you.....
Engine got problem, you can overhaul it, rm2000(well, you got rm5000 what)
Seats got problem, rewrap them, should be rm500-1000? This you have to survey.
But, chasis got problem, nothing can be done....
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ May 4 2011, 05:51 PM)
Yes I'm talking about the bottom end only, as that is where the chassis number is stamped. My friend 93 NA thinking about going for 93t but use back his block so no need go puspakom. Guess cannot then.
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you will need the oil squirtters. if not, your engine wont last long. piston wall overheat ka..
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changin the air filter got alot of effect? currently the filter is dirty as hell, wondering if change non stock type got diff or not.

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