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 LYN Proton Wira Club (LYN-PWC) V-XXVI, Come in & let's discuss about Wira

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lixc
post Mar 17 2011, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Mar 16 2011, 02:46 PM)
many thing can mod on wira ooo.h that y many ppl like to drive it.
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haha, it's due to our beloved country punya government policy... if no car tax, see whether will have many ppl driving it or not... tongue.gif
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post Mar 17 2011, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(nicodemus @ Mar 16 2011, 05:37 PM)
I was told that there is 2 types of extractor, normal and stainless steel. The normal one I think is alloy the color is like matte grey.

Normal one is RM250 and stainless steel is RM700. I asked whats the difference, few of the shops also said it only looks nice no difference in performance.

Is that true?
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i nvr tried different one, but theoretically if the hole diameter and length are the same then performance should be same, just reliability and durability different.
And different material and different thickness will give you different sound... too many variance...


Added on March 17, 2011, 6:50 am
QUOTE(kyheng @ Mar 16 2011, 05:19 PM)
Should be the catalytic convertor... If it is a stainless steel pipe and not hollow type, it will be good....
Precaution, if it is an injection, better make sure they disconnect the sensor in the exhaust first before starrting the cutting job....
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i dun think normal shop will give catalytic converter... normally the converter itself will cost more than Rm600, alone...
haven't knew anyone so nice to the environment yet, to change catalytic converter... most is remove it and change to normal bullet... this is where the power/torque gain come from, due to easier exhaust flow...



By the way, hotbits exhaust increased price? only extractor increase price or mid/rear also increase? it's a bit too much for RM580 for the extractor... luckily my order was done before CNY...
i still seeing the old price in speedworks website wor...

This post has been edited by lixc: Mar 17 2011, 06:54 AM
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post Mar 20 2011, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(AhKoo @ Mar 19 2011, 11:24 PM)
wira's owners are so inactive... zzz
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haha, i think the problem is dunno what to do with it already... sell also no price, wanna mod it further also need to think twice due to old age and limited budget...


Added on March 20, 2011, 4:16 pm
QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 20 2011, 01:03 PM)
well at the moment this is my only car and look like its going to be this car for the next 5 years at least and no im not planning to sell the car either..will past it to my younger brothers once i get a new car...but for now i have a budget of between 1-1.5k 5to replace the whole roof since i heard that repainting is a temporary measure only..
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haven't do it yet, but a few shops at PG quoted ~1.xk for the roof work (some claim change whole thing and with better glue, some i saw is take out inner "ceiling" and grind from both side then repair)... but all these quotations are WITHOUT painting... the painting cost nowadays is crazy...
summary is roof new one plus a whole body repaint would cost around 3k...


Added on March 20, 2011, 4:17 pm
QUOTE(sim263 @ Mar 20 2011, 03:14 PM)
hey hey, Im planning to buy a 2nd hand wira and ive came down with these choices.

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Wira+1+5+Auto+S...+96-8425822.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Wira-8819933.htm

any of you got any advice on these choices? planning to dish out around 2k for repairs. would that be enough to make this car a reliable everyday car?
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emm, from the experience of owning a cacat one, i would strongly recommend DO NOT get the carburetor and/or 3-speed auto ones...

This post has been edited by lixc: Mar 20 2011, 04:17 PM
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post Mar 20 2011, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(lixc @ Mar 20 2011, 04:12 PM)
haha, i think the problem is dunno what to do with it already... sell also no price, wanna mod it further also need to think twice due to old age and limited budget...


Added on March 20, 2011, 4:16 pm
haven't do it yet, but a few shops at PG quoted ~1.xk for the roof work (some claim change whole thing and with better glue, some i saw is take out inner "ceiling" and grind from both side then repair)... but all these quotations are WITHOUT painting... the painting cost nowadays is crazy...
summary is roof new one plus a whole body repaint would cost around 3k...


Added on March 20, 2011, 4:17 pm
emm, from the experience of owning a cacat one, i would strongly recommend DO NOT get the carburetor and/or 3-speed auto ones...
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i just clicked on the links... looks like both the options that u narrowed down are fall right into my DO NOT list... sigh...
the carb + 3-speed auto is a long-term pocket/wallet burner... it has high FC... carb is hard to tuned to best optimum condition, and stick there... 3-speed auto is like lagging a leg when wanna run...
If auto is a must for you, and with limited budget, i would recommend hunting for the 4-speed auto ones...
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post Mar 20 2011, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Mar 20 2011, 04:31 PM)
Prepare 2k to be safe
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For documentation wise ah, do we need to goto JPJ and/or Puspakom?
or actually dun care if wont sell the car?
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post Mar 20 2011, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(sim263 @ Mar 20 2011, 05:22 PM)
hmmm sorry for all the newbie questions but how exactly do you determine if its 3 speed or 4 speed? :S


Added on March 20, 2011, 5:23 pmhttp://www.mudah.my/Proton+Wira+1+6+A+97-8934342.htm

this is one of the cars introduce by one of the members here.. is it a 4speed? any other recommendations?
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errr, if i am not wrong (i know it is true for 1995 ones), all the 1.5L Wira's auto are 3-speed, if it is not mod by the owner... then all the 1.6L or 1.8L auto are 4-speed ones...
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post Mar 22 2011, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(maxgenesis @ Mar 22 2011, 12:08 AM)
guys i got a question, the wira dashboard meter there, when u ON ur car not start, there got 1 like water tap symbol on top the battery symbol, wut is that ahh, tht indicate wut?
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is that indication of low water level or overheat temperature? manual booklet should have it, if u still keep tat...
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post Mar 22 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(maxgenesis @ Mar 22 2011, 06:27 PM)
u c ahh normally when u turn ur key to 'on' right, the battery and aladdin lamp will indicate... den u start d engine both will gone.
but aft i change distributor, the aladdin lamp no more indicating left the battery icon...
so dis means wut?
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did the foreman/mechanic plug back the cable back to the lower part of engine? I just saw mine not plug in after overhaul...
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post Mar 30 2011, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(jeff530 @ Mar 30 2011, 12:20 PM)
Hey all wira bro, you all know that wira se 1.5 is abit stupid. coz when seating 4-5 person sure will hit the bottom. Can any1 let me know how to fix it? got ppl told me that:
1.change the spring to waja spring but will high abit(not stable)
2.change to 1.6 spring with the gas abs.
3.not the spring problem, just change to gas abs enuf.
4.All nonnit, just change the rubber at the abs from 1inch to 3inch.

Actually which is correct?
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depends on how much $$ u wanna spend on it...
If absorber already cacat (leaked), then can change together with #4 to gas ones (but i would just recommend 1.5 inches or 2 inches; 3 inches is too much, ur car will like frog).
I solved mine with just changing to gas + 1.5 inches rubber. The gas absorber was RM83 one pair (Sachs). Rubber was RM20.
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post Apr 4 2011, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(wailup @ Apr 4 2011, 10:21 AM)
yaloh.. only rm50 pun i tak mau kasi.. now rm650 fly..
learn my lesson... going to install volt meter after this.
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actually if dun mind the ugliness, can get any analog multimeter that sell in electronic shops, then hook up the 2 wires to the cigarette port there... tongue.gif
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post Apr 13 2011, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(jaikong1 @ Apr 12 2011, 09:40 PM)
anyone use ngk g power spark plug here? How does it cost?
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RM60 something...


Added on April 13, 2011, 6:42 am
QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Apr 12 2011, 10:06 AM)
Plan to change my falken 912 on my wira sooner or later,as d thread worn out quite fast,jz 8 months old wif me,d thread left onli less den 50%.

Can suggest me a 15" tyre dat cost around rm200? Prefer not more den rm200 if possible.

Prefer 1st = long lasting,2nd = okok grip in dry & wet,3rd = comfort & silent.
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Bridgestone AR10?

This post has been edited by lixc: Apr 13 2011, 06:42 AM
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post Apr 13 2011, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(afosz @ Apr 13 2011, 06:55 AM)
My NGK Iridium gone. I guess not suitable, too much carbon. Now back to platinum Bosch Super Plus.
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too much carbon? how about changing down 1 level of heat range?
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post Apr 16 2011, 04:03 PM

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new side topic... BATTERY...

Which brand non-MF battery the best (in terms of price, life span, performance) for normal Wira?
No amp, no VS, no special makan-electric thingy...
- Bosch
- Varta
- Yuasa
- Yokohama
- Leko
- others?

I am using Bosch for >2 years, measured at tyre shop to be weak 6 months ago, i think going to be gone case soon...
Any recommendation? Or experience?


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QUOTE(lixc @ Apr 16 2011, 04:03 PM)
new side topic... BATTERY...

Which brand non-MF battery the best (in terms of price, life span, performance) for normal Wira?
No amp, no VS, no special makan-electric thingy...
- Bosch
- Varta
- Yuasa
- Yokohama
- Leko
- others?

I am using Bosch for >2 years, measured at tyre shop to be weak 6 months ago, i think going to be gone case soon...
Any recommendation?  Or experience?
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additional notes: it's Wira 1.5L, year 1995...

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post Apr 16 2011, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(kyheng @ Apr 16 2011, 04:08 PM)
How about Century? The original NS45(or 40) lasted me 3 years 10 months before I'm hard to start my car. 2003 1.5 injection. Now using Century Gold NS70 non MF also since 2008 June and added 1 time of water only....
Better add silicone grease to protect your terminals, change the alternator cable(from fuse box to battery) and you are good to go... Won't cost much.
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i just checked, i am using NS40AS (40AH), dated 2.5 years. Sometimes hard to start (need click 2 to 3 times), sometimes okay...
Alternator cable any idea cost how much? Got specific brand/model recommendation? I not sure i got change before or not... hahaha...
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post Apr 18 2011, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(Arkaine @ Apr 16 2011, 04:42 PM)
I used yokohama NS60A for 4 years and 10 months blush.gif
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wah, 4yrs and 10 months?
Thanks for sharing, a few questions as data collection:
--> daily start engine how many times?
--> normal average travel after started engine is how many KM?
--> average travel speed (KM/h) is?
--> any VS, audio HUGE cap or other special treatment to the battery?
--> original distributor?
--> wheel size normal (rim + tyre)?
--> using the car at normal area, right? not like cameron highland or cold area?
--> aircond always on?
--> any mod or non-ori accessories on electric side?

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post Apr 19 2011, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Apr 18 2011, 10:07 AM)
Oh..maybe I too nervous, so can't think of anything..plus the recent accident..make me scared already..  doh.gif
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emmm, i agree with others that need to keep a good distance (something like the 2 second theory at least)...
then from mechanical side, should always keep the stuffs (tyre, brake pad, brake fluid, hampalang...) at good working condition...

Back in 1995, the Protong Wira was advertised with "ABS" for 1.5L (which unfortunately my dad bought), and you know what, the "ABS" that Protong written stands for "Advanced Braking System", not "Antilock Braking System".... hahaha... so if you are so lucky to get Protong Wira's "ABS" then need to figure out how to improve the car braking...
If money no problem, then surely change to better suspension (at least absorbers), brake fluid (DOT4), brake pads (better ones), brake hose (like Pro RS, but i haven't change yet), rear disc brake (if 1.5L, rear is drum, but i haven't change yet), tyre with better grip, have good tyre alignment, and then most importantly --> keep the distance from those "suspicious" cars (front and including side ones)...

anyway, talk is always easier than do... so just wish you luck... i need some for myself as well... smile.gif
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post Apr 19 2011, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 19 2011, 10:36 AM)
Thanks guys for all the advise.  smile.gif
How much is the voltmeter ? Where to install in KL ? Any recommendation ?
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i am interested too... any cheap cheap ones at penang?
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post Apr 29 2011, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(Lineage @ Apr 28 2011, 12:00 PM)
Wanted to change the small bulb in my headlamp..but I want to know what socket is that? and what I can install in that?  hmm.gif
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It's call T10...
Something like this --> http://www.12v.com.my/T10-W5W-Blue-Vision-...d=57&doit=order


Added on April 29, 2011, 7:06 am
QUOTE(JenHuang @ Apr 28 2011, 01:46 PM)
Projector headlamp match wit LED signal nice??
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no offend but any taiko used this before can share experience/user review?
i am skeptical on a few things:
- will the cover (normally plastic), get yellow and blur very fast?
- the beam focusing is good or not? normally seen on road are those like light beam is like no focus point (bad to other road users eye)...

This post has been edited by lixc: Apr 29 2011, 07:06 AM
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post Apr 30 2011, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ Apr 29 2011, 10:54 AM)
My 1995 1.5 wira Manual fc is like really crazy bad right now. like 240km, one full tank habis already.

Bring back to Eon Proton to top overhaul, come back one full tank until 320km only. Now hovering around 270km again. It doesn't move very fast either, 120km/h is the max or else the engine going to cry already.

However, I'm also stuck in jams 4 days a week, so dunno if that would affect so much or not.
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emm, couples of points to check:
- how many load you have on car (how many ppl)?
- which brand petrol u using? (not sure only me or wat, Shell is having bad FC on my cars)
- when do top overhaul, got change piston ring? got check the ring to cylinder wall clearance? would it be cylinder wall wear off or piston ring wear off causing bad compression rate?
- try full service or overhaul the carburetor. This is the thing i hate most of my wira 1995 auto (besides the 3-speed auto tranny).
- tyre pressure okay? >210 psi?
- tyre alignment okay?
- try don't put any useless stuff/load on the car (like heavy stuff which u dun use everyday)
- do u idling a lot (like waiting for ppl, besides the usual traffic jam)?
- aircond compressor working okay? it got drag the engine or not...

my car is having as bad FC as urs too, even after full overhaul. Same year car, but it's auto. I am driving less than 10km/day, and i step on the accelerator and brake like siao lang, so expected the bad FC.


Added on April 30, 2011, 2:34 pm
QUOTE(lixc @ Apr 29 2011, 06:56 AM)
It's call T10...
Something like this --> http://www.12v.com.my/T10-W5W-Blue-Vision-...d=57&doit=order


Added on April 29, 2011, 7:06 am
no offend but any taiko used this before can share experience/user review?
i am skeptical on a few things:
- will the cover (normally plastic), get yellow and blur very fast?
- the beam focusing is good or not?  normally seen on road are those like light beam is like no focus point (bad to other road users eye)...
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Should say W5W...
can refer to here --> http://www.lighting.philips.com/in_en/cons...ighting&lang=en



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post May 4 2011, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(FauxHawk @ May 1 2011, 02:11 AM)
let's see...

usually 2 or 3 ppl.
using shell also
changed the piston rings and one more part, can't remember what, but it solved white smoke problem.
tyre pressure 210
allignment abit off
most of the things are light.
idle mostly at traffic light and traffic jam
aircond compressor dunno, but got whistling sound when on aircon.
when overhaul carburetor, what is that?


Added on May 1, 2011, 2:25 am

yup, carb engine. very old car.
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hmmm... suggest full-service or overhaul the carburetor la... details i do not know, but generally is the mechanic will check which parts of the carburetor faulty then change it lor...
second thing is try change petrol lor. I have experience of very bad FC with Shell on MyVi (~23cents/km vs other brands' ~16 or ~17/km, for every tank; i tried for a lot of tanks), use Caltex/new Petronas/Esso.



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