If you use URGE, yes. But WMP is still a freeware.
Ironically, remember Real Player? the one that is the cause of the Microsoft conterversy? It was voted the 2nd worst software of all time last year... lol

then anything that has changed from xp to vista aside from GUI? I mean those functions.

'those' function?
The underlaying has been changed, which is why old software are buggy on Vista, because of the library change. We are also supposed to have WinFS, but it was delayed untill further notice. it was supposed to be an update of NTFS. Reviews were good on this new File System, as it's native database support, thus faster searching and file access

i've done a complete reinstall starting from scratch. I have no sound as the Realtek AC97 XP drivers won't work or load properly. Ironically when I installed the driver it worked at first, then I restarted and the drivers won't load anymore. They worked fine in my upgrade install (over XP).

Anyway, a fresh install over a clean hard disk is surprisingly very fast.

After testing for only a few days, I have yet to try out everything but the Aero Glass and transparency feature seems like a real resource hog. It's pretty but if you turn it off, suddenly, everything seems so much more responsive without having to look at the "please wait" icon (equiv. to the hour glass cursor).

The file search does seem to find my files a lot faster than in XP and it even searches and presents jpeg files that are related to a search term.

Internet connectivity wise, I have no problems connecting with dial up modem or with my mobile phone (GPRS).

The thing that annoys me is how the security pop up box keeps popping up whenever you try to change or access system dialog boxes or others such as system properties, device manager etc. Damn annoying, I don't see the purpose of that at all except to be a pain in the a$$. Perhaps it can be turned off but it comes like that by default (evaluation copy).

I think I will give it a few more weeks but I don't think I will be upgrading to the paid version at all. I don't think it's worth it at this point as my XP works flawlessly right now. In the end, I think Vista is more pretty than functional right now (for me) as my scanner has no Vista driver and there's some weird things going on like suddenly missing programs (for eg. AVG antivirus disappears and reappears and sometimes doesn't load etc). And the system crashes when I try to refresh the performance rating. I think if I were to buy Vista, I would wait until next year when it has had time to mature and perhaps a service pack is out.

edit: scanner problem solved.

This post has been edited by mzms: Feb 1 2007, 02:02 AM

well in that case better go for vista home basic then, cheaper and simple and of coz no resource hog

Something weird on ym vista, I ve reinstalled fresh copy 2 times same things occure which is the icon for microsoft office, adobe, windows live messenger ect missing after few days of using it. Even those file associated with these programs will also lost their icon. Annoying. Office 2007 cant uninstall/modify also

Haha, same thing happened with my AVG antivirus. Yahoo messenger so far works well. You mean you reinstall over blank hard disk and reinstall all your software twice and still same problems? BTW what build is your copy?

Anyway, I finally got the sound to work now by installing a new version of the sound driver (version 3.89).

I like the new Windows Media Player. Very nice and makes organizing all my music files much easier than before.

My next test will be to install and run Titan Quest and Age of Empires 3 as well as Command and Conquer Generals and Age of Mythology (older games), and also games from 1990s such as Total Annihilation. I'll then try installing some PS1 emulators and see if I can play FF9.

I finally got my scanner to work by reinstalling the driver (I let Vista do an automatic search and install). So now as far as hardware, everything I have works.

oh and I found out that I can have good responsiveness with Aero Glass on if I disable all the other effects except "smooth screen fonts" , "use visual styles on windows" and "enable transparency glass" so it's not as sluggish as if all the effects are on.

I still have a long while left on my evaluation period so hopefully can next as many things I normally do on my PC such as DVD authoring and movie editing etc. Will post here as I go along.

This post has been edited by mzms: Jan 31 2007, 10:05 PM

Using the RTM version, I reinstall a fresh new vista but not long after that it will occur again so annoying T_T

I can see the purpose of that security feature, while it is indeed annoying most of the time some executables are being executed without the consent of users. And the reason it's there by default is because most of the users (at least MS assumes) do not have strong common sense in security.

You can disable that by going to "User Account->Turn UAC Off" in your control panel. But of course, you'll say the Security Alerts is very annoying coz it keeps on nagging you to turn it on again, you can just go to "Security Center" and have the notification turned off

This post has been edited by samurai1337: Feb 1 2007, 01:04 AM


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well do you install other programmer? such as antivirus ?
what antivirus you use ?

thanks for the info. yeah i figured that out after i posted that msg by doing a help search for UAC. It would be great if UAC could differentiate between a user initiated action such as clicking on a setup file or system control panel applet or whatever instead of constantly bugging us. But I can see its advantages if a computer's always connected and always on and on a network or internet or something.


This post has been edited by mzms: Feb 1 2007, 04:23 AM

I have not install any antivirus on vista yet so far, and i am not only the one who facing this problem, there is someone who face is exact problem with me as well.

Here is the link

btw, is vista cracked? I am not asking about the crack, i am going to get the ori version, just wanted to know whether it is cracked or not. I heard they said the RTM is cracked even before the release of vista. If tis is true then very sad story..

Well, you COULD install a clean copy of vista from the Original Upgrade To Vista DVD... even if you dont have XP installed (!).


A glaring loophole. just read about it in Gizmodo.

readyboost doesn't work for me even though i have a card that's 2gb 45x speed. neither do my USB keys. says "the device is plugged into an unsupported interface" any ideas or anyone experience this?

This post has been edited by mzms: Feb 1 2007, 03:32 PM

question guys: do you think there will be people at lowyat this saturday i can ask about vista? people from microsoft?

Your 2GB car? o_O What's the brand of your USB drive?

It works with my 1GB Kingston Data Traveler, whether or not it helps increase performance is another story completely

readyboost does not work with all thumbdrives, only some

haha card, not car. anyway it's a Sony.

it doesn't matter anymore as i'm done testing vista and i have reverted back to good old reliable XP. my verdict of vista is "not ready for primetime." at least for me. hehehe i was getting several freezes when i was browsing the net and even tho the search feature is SUPERB, I can't say I get anything more out of it than I already have with XP (for my daily pc work). So, maybe in a year's time and a service pack or two later, I'd jump in the boat! (Or if i get a free full version hahaha )

Hello guys,

I've come out with my very own review on Windows Vista Home Premium in Spherebox
http://spherebox.com/2007/02/01/review-mic...a-home-premium/

While the review is not as "full on" as others that you could easily find it online, it does give my own neutral and original opinions. Please feel free to give comment.

Thanks :-)