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 Nowadays many girls prefer to be single?, Any advise to change that mentality?

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Eclipxe
post Mar 31 2011, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 31 2011, 11:38 AM)
Aye. I'll be the first to admit (and I know most guys will say the same although they won't own up smile.gif) that I'm shallow in that sense. A woman needs to look after herself and not see marriage as a license to let herself go. I think it's important for both couples to keep up appearances. More so because you'll see each other every day. If your man has 'extra-curricular' activities, maybe it's because you don't look after yourself. Not that he doesn't love you, he just doesn't find you sexually appealing. It does sound shallow, but it is really that simple.
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post Mar 31 2011, 12:49 PM

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Women can have expectations higher than stars. It is their choice. Doesn't matter if they are high or low earners. They want to set that expectations, then up to them to get it or not. It is stupid mentality for a woman to base the man she want on her earnings. So she is earning high income but want man who earn higher than her to take care of her? Someone who earn 5 figure income want another men who earn 5 figure also? Why? She want him to buy her LV bags every month? If that is not materialistic then I don't know what it is. Maybe she want to retire after that to take care of kids? The man's 5 figure income will make sure her high living lifestyle is maintained?

Can a man say the same? No? Why not? Isn't men and women supposed to be EQUAL? Haha..that's an excuse when women want something they can't get. But when the equation is heavily tilted they revert back to women is the softer gender. Women...bah...

It's all about how the society and environment the women is brought up that shape what the women want. Compared to men which always go back to basics instincts (if you know what I mean).

They will lower their standard as they age which eventually some ended up marrying for the sake of getting a partner. Maybe it still depends on criteria like wealth or look (i doubt) or convenience or others. It's up to them. Whatever make them happy. Some ended single forever and some ended really found what they want.

Another thing just came up my mind. Maybe it's all about positioning oneself in better position for a wealthy, good looking and nice guy. I mean, what is the girl does not have much in her looks? She have to add "points" with things like better career. So..that's probably what it is. But I have no idea....
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post Mar 31 2011, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipxe @ Mar 31 2011, 12:09 PM)
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post Mar 31 2011, 01:59 PM

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@abubin, i think u should read this V
QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 30 2011, 02:19 PM)
It's like I said, men will always be seen as providers, the head of the family, economically and emotionally. Women may earn more but they'd still like to know that their man can provide a security blanket. I get a little tired reading "women are materialistic" posts because I feel these posters don't completely understand their claim. A 'strong' man will always be more appealing than a 'weak' man. It's like I said in another post, "survival of the fittest". If she chooses a richer guy over a poorer guys, it's probably because the richer guy also has more appealing traits, unless he struck the lottery. People tend to only look at the surface. "Oh she went for the rich guy, she's so materialistic". As chance would have it, successful guys also have more appealing characteristics, like determination, ambition, charm, etc. Are there girls who are in it purely for the money? Of course but much less than some posters make it out to be.

I think that on some level, guys use this materialistic claim as an excuse to console themselves. Instead of considering that she chose a richer guy off him because he's a loser, he chooses to believe that it's purely because he doesn't have much money. It's easier to stomach. Everyone has an opinion on everyone else, but few look at themselves, critique themselves and decide to iron out the flaws. Instead, they make other people look equally as bad e.g. "The guy is rich, must be father's money. Must be damn 'lancee'".

Lower expectations on men? Why would anyone want to settle for less? Would you lower your expectation of women under any circumstances? No, we strive for better things.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 30 2011, 03:27 PM)
That's exactly right. Each of us have our own definition of what's good, what's successful, what's rich and so on. Each girl has their own and guys need to measure up. We will always be attracted to something better, it's human nature. Pretty girls will always turn the head of boys. Girls will always look at their friend's richer husband's and be envious. Fact is that only commitment holds us back.

The point I was trying to make earlier was that money alone is not the determining factor. What I was trying to put across is that successful guys generally have stronger more appealing traits and people overlook this, attributing his success with women purely down to money.
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he explained manyak gooding. me agree although me no high expectation.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 31 2011, 01:47 PM)
Sorry I don't follow
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i mean should i said i learned that? i'm still trying to understand how different gender thinks. tongue.gif

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post Mar 31 2011, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipxe @ Mar 31 2011, 01:59 PM)
i'm still trying to understand how different gender thinks. tongue.gif
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That's because you don't know what motivates them.
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post Mar 31 2011, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 31 2011, 02:07 PM)
That's because you don't know what motivates them.
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That's why I'm learning now lor. blush.gif

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post Mar 31 2011, 03:11 PM

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ok, this just came up to my mind after looking at a collegue of mine who is still single.

More women are single because they can or they prefer so. You see, in the old days, most women does not work. Even for those who do, most of them are in lower earnings group. Therefore when they are old. They just get any man who is willing to marry them.

But times has change. Women are more and more independent now. They have the choice of not marrying just for the sake of getting someone to take care of them. Those who earn enough can support their own living. That is why they do not simply get a man for the sake of getting a companion.
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post Mar 31 2011, 03:36 PM

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^ Well, as I mentioned earlier, most of the 30+ girls I know especially my elder sister and her friends.. still being single due to problems they encountered during in the relationship. And what I learned, different genders have different needs, motivations and so. Women craze for emotional supports. Trust, loyalty, security, guidance and yada yada. Once it's being betrayed or abandoned, it'll bit hard to accept and reaccept it again.

And men? no comment, cos I'm still trying to learn and understand them.
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post Mar 31 2011, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Eclipxe @ Mar 31 2011, 03:36 PM)
^ Well, as I mentioned earlier, most of the 30+ girls I know especially my elder sister and her friends.. still being single due to problems they encountered during in the relationship. And what I learned, different genders have different needs, motivations and so. Women craze for emotional supports. Trust, loyalty, security, guidance and yada yada. Once it's being betrayed or abandoned, it'll bit hard to accept and reaccept it again.

Those things are universal. You think men don't want trust, loyalty, etc meh?

QUOTE(Eclipxe @ Mar 31 2011, 03:36 PM)
And men? no comment, cos I'm still trying to learn and understand them.
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Simple, men want sex and sammich maker, hottie preferred, if rich then is bonus. All that crap about "click" or "common interests" are all bullshit, because if the woman don't have simple foundation like fulfilling the men's expectation (REAL expectations, mind you), all the "common interests" in the world will not help.

I.e. if there is a hot chick who totally digs kendo and anime and gaming and cars and traveling and swinging (basically all the same crap I like), but has this 1 tiny little problem of nagging (come on, admit it women, you know you nag), or is a shopaholic, it's not going to work.

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post Mar 31 2011, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 31 2011, 03:58 PM)
Those things are universal. You think men don't want trust, loyalty, etc meh?
yalar.. i mean everyone want them but women 'craze' for it ma.

QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 31 2011, 03:58 PM)
Simple, men want sex and sammich maker, hottie preferred, if rich then is bonus. All that crap about "click" or "common interests" are all bullshit, because if the woman don't have simple foundation like fulfilling the men's expectation (REAL expectations, mind you), all the "common interests" in the world will not help.

I.e. if there is a hot chick who totally digs kendo and anime and gaming and cars and traveling and swinging (basically all the same crap I like), but has this 1 tiny little problem of nagging (come on, admit it women, you know you nag), or is a shopaholic, it's not going to work.
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QUOTE(Eclipxe @ Mar 31 2011, 04:10 PM)
yalar.. i mean everyone want them but women 'craze' for it ma.

Why?

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post Mar 31 2011, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(spanker @ Mar 31 2011, 04:16 PM)
Why?
ah, my england no good, dunno explain.

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Mar 30 2011, 12:07 AM)
because u are as a child, u make ur parents become a maid?
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sorry 2 say but u r soo wrong~
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maybe you're not the type for her ...
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QUOTE(Eclipxe @ Mar 15 2011, 12:39 PM)
tactics. patient. earn the trust.

these girls learned a lot of 'lesson' before knowing u
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and mayb ur not her cup of tea lorr hmm.gif
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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Mar 15 2011, 12:33 PM)
Recently meet some girls (pretty & high educate & >25+), they are single, and after know them for a while, they just said they prefer to be single.

Any comment and any ideal to break the ice?
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damm i have a hard time finding single women...
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post Apr 1 2011, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Eclipxe @ Mar 15 2011, 12:39 PM)
tactics. patient. earn the trust.

these girls learned a lot of 'lesson' before knowing u
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Just wonder what you mean by "tactics. patient. earn the trust"

Mind to elaborate more? Wonder that, time really can make a girl fall in love with a guy?
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post Apr 1 2011, 12:22 AM

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even a preferred-be-a-single girl will need love.

men just too focus on the overall idea of relationship: to be a capable bf.
they tend to forget to be a gud lover. icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 1 2011, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(soujiro_seta @ Apr 1 2011, 12:22 AM)
even a preferred-be-a-single girl will need love.

men just too focus on the overall idea of relationship: to be a capable bf.
they tend to forget to be a gud lover. icon_idea.gif
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define a good lover and a capable bf hmm.gif

but i do agree with everyone needs love.

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QUOTE(abubin @ Mar 31 2011, 12:49 PM)
Women can have expectations higher than stars. It is their choice. Doesn't matter if they are high or low earners. They want to set that expectations, then up to them to get it or not. It is stupid mentality for a woman to base the man she want on her earnings. So she is earning high income but want man who earn higher than her to take care of her?  Someone who earn 5 figure income want another men who earn 5 figure also? Why? She want him to buy her LV bags every month? If that is not materialistic then I don't know what it is. Maybe she want to retire after that to take care of kids? The man's 5 figure income will make sure her high living lifestyle is maintained?
It's been my experience that really successful women, the CEOs and GMs and MDs, don't necessarily want a man who earns as much or more than they do. Sometimes they just want a man who is their equal in other areas besides money - intelligence, charm, general knowledge, talent, etc. As long as he's not just leeching off her, she's quite happy to be the one paying the bills.



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