hihi, would like to ask, if i got riba part 2 from UK or aia part 2 from AUS, can i practice architecture in HK? thx!

individually? no. RIBA is a UK based body. it has little to no power or use in malaysia.

because the applied to conform to it (UM and UiTM). the thing is, a lot of other IPTAs were also trying to apply for it, until they realized that having RIBA doesnt mean as much as it used to.

u see, RIBA is like PAM. it serves the members like an elite club. yes, they do recognize outside schools to be good enough for practice in the UK, but doesnt mean they will automatically have a license to practice there. to practice, they need ARB accreditation, similar to LAM here.

simply put, if u want to practice in malaysia, u need LAM. PAM can give all its recognition and endorsement to YOU, but if LAM doesnt certify u, u're not gonna practice here.

No! I plan to practise in Singapore within 10 years...
maybe after 10 years will go back to Malaysia
And i thought RIBA is recognize by Malaysia... =.=lll
Because Malaysia law is also follow Brithsh law before.... Sorry for misunderstanding

Are you sure KLIUC degree is not accredited?
According to the phone conversation 2 months ago
the officer from KLIUC told me that KLIUC bachelor in sci of architecture was NOW accredited by LAM Part I...
Maybe this is updated??

Azarimy... when is the part time archi study from UTM-Space started???
So far i didn't receive any information/letter from UTM-space leh... (applied by APRIL 2011)
Do you have any recent internal new regarding this?


Please advise

Thanks!

This post has been edited by Tal: Jan 30 2012, 03:30 PM

RIBA Part II recognize in Malaysia, but RIBA part III cant practise in Malaysia??
Sorry.. I dont get you... mind to elaborate?


Your advise are helpfull

This post has been edited by Tal: Jan 30 2012, 04:06 PM

KLIUC is not accredited. dont worry, i'm now part of the accreditation committee and i can say for sure that they are not.

SPACE UTM runs concurrently with the full-time courses. so the 1st semester just ended before CNY. the 2nd semester will begin end of february.

recognized meaning they hold an equivalent qualification with the malaysian LAM parts 1 and/or 2. meaning a RIBA part 2 holder can come back to msia and sit for the LAM parts 1 and 2 exam and once passed, may practice in malaysia. RIBA at ANY stage may no longer practice in malaysia without LAM equivalent.

thing is, parts 1 and 2 doesnt have any impact towards practice, so RIBA holders still practice in malaysia without much issues. but when it comes to part 3, it's quite strict.

No, RIBA Part 2 holder does not have to sit for LAM Parts I and 2.
Well, of course it also depends on what you mean by 'practise'.
Anyone, even those without architectural qualification, can practise as in work under an architectural firm.

It's when you need to put your signature on the plans for submission to the authorities that calls for full qualification and registration.

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Added on January 30, 2012, 4:28 pmThere is no Part III which is universally recognized, which is logical since every country is different with different cultures, local conditions, by-laws,etc. which you need to know in order to practise the profession.
In US and Australia, you need to sit for the exams to be qualified to practice in each state since the countries are so big that conditions can vary a lot from one place to another. For example, California is prone to earthquakes, Miami is prone to tornadoes and the climate in Hawaii is almost like tropical. The building codes and by-laws would be different.

Likewise in Malaysia, there's a government body to control this, which is LAM.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Jan 30 2012, 04:29 PM

Walao, you are so POWERFULL azarimy...

What? How come i never received any inform from UTM-space? since i was applied for it last year...
any help/advise will be appreciate


Ok, Azarimy, lets said... they have diploma holder from Poly (fresh graduted), are they eligible to sit the LAM part I exam individually??
If yes... so, they straight forward to part II master degree from UPM/UTM lor??? LOL
(according to your previous advise, IPTA oni consider that LAM part I but not the qualification level)

Am i right to say??

man i seriously must not reply when sick.

u're right. it's register only with LAM.

recently we (LAM and universities) have had a discussion to no longer recognize RIBA in the future. they will need to sit for the exams again to sort it out. this way, we can now sort the issue of american graduates or any other graduates who only hold professional qualifications from other countries. sorry, i got confused.

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Added on January 30, 2012, 4:42 pm

u should check with UTM SPACE.

no. poly dip holder do not qualify for part 1. they're sub-part 1, just below the qualifications.


This post has been edited by azarimy: Jan 30 2012, 04:42 PM

Ok! Lets say... If I graduated from KLIUC and i passed the Lam Part 1, Can i get into singapore (NUS/SUTD) for part time master degree study?
Just ignored the accredited 1st...

same issues, if I graduated from KLIUC and i passed the Lam Part 1, is there any PART TIME master degree offer in Malaysia?
both IPTAs/ IPTSs...

You don't seem to understand what LAM Part I or 2 are about.
LAM Parts 1 and 2 are only meant for those with unaccredited B.Arch, not for those with Diploma or other degrees.
You'd better read the thread from page 1.
There is no point going to do Master's with the degree from KLIUC. What is important is an accredited B. Arch.You can't be an Architect in Malaysia without an accredited B.Arch, not even with an M.Arch or PhD.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Jan 30 2012, 06:15 PM

This is really confusing me...
Ok now! I go KLIUC for unaccredited B.Sci Archi, and then I sit LAM part I exam individually, and i passed it!
The next plan is... I wan to future study for master in Singapore... It is possible or not???

Actually... accredited only for QP to sign... and I don't really think I can be a BOSS lor!


This post has been edited by Tal: Jan 30 2012, 11:54 PM

there are part time master offer in malaysia but none of them will ever be accredited or recognized by LAM, because most of part time master were a course of specialization (ie; sustainable technology, urban planning, lighting technology, etc). the only master degree with Part 2 LAM is UiTM's Master of Architecture, other IPTAs will get it in due time.

Would u mind to tell me which Uni offer part time master degree in Malaysia and Singapore? (include specialization)
Just for long tem planning!!

Thanks!

Just dont mind the unaccredited issues 1st...
Because for me....
accredited = become boss!
unaccredited = cannot become boss!

and so far i dont plan to become boss in the futhur lor!
Even if i really plan to organize a firm (become boss) in the futhur, I may sit the LAM exam privately/individualy...

Am i right to said??

This post has been edited by Tal: Jan 31 2012, 09:25 AM

i think it would be better for you to sit for Part 1 LAM test, just keep all your studio works in good condition.So that you can proceed to do Part 2 LAM, and you can do this by studying in accredited course be it IPTAs or overseas.

my advice is you better study till you get into Part 2 LAM, and after that you can decide whether you want to open up a firm which will require you to pass Part 3 LAM examination, and will entitled you with Ar. in your front name...

and if you want to practice like any other architect Part 2 will suffice.

as for master's degree(specialize course), it will be like some addition to your credential/knowledge.

i hope i explain this right.

This post has been edited by finger_waverz: Jan 31 2012, 10:25 AM

first of all, there are two types of masters: academic and professional. it's safe to say that all masters are academic unless otherwise stated as professional. professional masters are those that carry professional qualifications, allowing u to practice in the industry. here, only UiTM's masters is a professional masters.

all academic masters has a part time component. but it wont allow u to practice. not because it's not accredited, it's because u're NOT qualified.

so the question is, how many part time professional masters are there in malaysia and singapore? answer: there is none.

Tal
I am puzzled why you are more keen to do your Masters than getting an accredited B.Arch/Part II. I'd say the latter is worth more than former.

The Masters degree is not going to help in your career unless you go into teaching or research. Or unless your expertise is sought after by firms which undertake specialised projects eg. hospital design.

You are mistaken, having an accredited B.Arch does give you an edge over others even if you work under employment. If you work long enough in the firm, you can even be offered a partnership if you have your Part 3.

Many of the universities (in UK and Australia) are changing to calling their B.Arch degree a M.Arch. Being a second degree, M.Arch sounds better than B.Arch., when it is the same course.


azarimy
While going through the lst page of the thread on the pathway to getting qualified as an architect, I just noticed that there is the 'Part 1' box in dotted line after the first degree from unaccredited universities. I don't think the box should be there.

Part 1 is a status, it is not an exam to be taken separately. The exam for Part 1 & 2 conducted by LAM are to be taken together and are only meant for holders of unaccredited B.Arch degrees.

This post has been edited by tehtmc: Jan 31 2012, 11:16 AM

actually, the part 1 exam can be taken separately. because this is the only way for students from IPTS to join an accredited school for their part 2. i believe there is a forum member here who just managed to do that (i think it's kuanming?, cant remember), and now on his way for his part 2.

that was the reason why it was drawn like that.

In order for us to enter SINGAPORE UNI ( NUS) for Master of Archi, we will need to have RIBA part 1.

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Added on January 31, 2012, 11:48 amYa. i'm going to further my part 2 in UPM this coming Feb. (done my LAM Part 1 accreditation individually)

This post has been edited by kuanming86: Jan 31 2012, 11:48 AM

Oh okay, I am behind time then.