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post Nov 2 2014, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 2 2014, 04:47 PM)
some of the principals i spoke to have begun retraining their draftmen to be technical assistants. at the moment, they see that BIM operators as technicians. not many see BIM as a tool for architects themselves, where they dont need to have it intermediated by a technician or assistant. usually they say "aaah aku dah tua laa". and they're like... my juniors.
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BIM is really a tool, maybe 30 years time with fast pace digital leap..at the moment, still slow.

renaissance age just began, we are living in an interesting time rolleyes.gif

Just checking, how is ASEAN in BIM level? As far i know, singapore is the only leading head in this from ASEAN. How about Myanmar? hmm.gif are they going the process of using old school dumb lines to start with or are they leaping straight to BIM?

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 2 2014, 05:57 AM)
BIM is really a tool, maybe 30 years time with fast pace digital leap..at the moment, still slow.

renaissance age just began, we are living in an interesting time rolleyes.gif

Just checking, how is ASEAN in BIM level? As far i know, singapore is the only leading head in this from ASEAN. How about Myanmar?  hmm.gif are they going the process of using old school dumb lines to start with or are they leaping straight to BIM?
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dunno about myanmar, but at the moment, philippino schools are producing 100% BIM capable graduates. their industry is still far from BIM, more like malaysia, but the graduates are ready for it. so they've begun exporting their architecture graduates abroad, particularly to singapore.
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post Nov 2 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 2 2014, 05:10 PM)
dunno about myanmar, but at the moment, philippino schools are producing 100% BIM capable graduates. their industry is still far from BIM, more like malaysia, but the graduates are ready for it. so they've begun exporting their architecture graduates abroad, particularly to singapore.
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ohmy.gif seriously. wow.

For Australia case, they are adapting it at a pace wait and see till UK mandatory 2018, full BIM.
Most early adapters have already really felt the different in efficiency and it just matter of time getting everyone on board the same level to build a full BIM building.
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ini thread involve semua bidang pembinaan ke fokus hanya untuk arsitek??
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QUOTE(imarekim @ Nov 3 2014, 03:22 PM)
ini thread involve semua bidang pembinaan ke fokus hanya untuk arsitek??
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arsitek dan pembinaan adalah bidang yg sinonim antara satu sama lain. boleh aja.
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very interesting discussion indeed..do BIM have something like library or database system where we can share the modelling information that being done by somebody else? just like sketchup with their 3Dwarehouse..
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QUOTE(amir_tm @ Nov 6 2014, 12:20 AM)
very interesting discussion indeed..do BIM have something like library or database system where we can share the modelling information that being done by somebody else? just like sketchup with their 3Dwarehouse..
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sure. but there are many bim software out there, each has its own library and community. thing is, unlike sketchup, bim is directly related to local practice. meaning, u would want local product libraries with prices in RM and u can contact the manufacturers directly. we still lack those, as the msian bim community is still small. but we do borrow lots from sgpore...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 6 2014, 08:55 AM)
sure. but there are many bim software out there, each has its own library and community. thing is, unlike sketchup, bim is directly related to local practice. meaning, u would want local product libraries with prices in RM and u can contact the manufacturers directly. we still lack those, as the msian bim community is still small. but we do borrow lots from sgpore...
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Is Autodesk Revit the most popular at the moment? I am thinking over to learn that in the near future.
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Is Autodesk Revit the most popular at the moment? I am thinking over to learn that in the near future.
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so far in malaysia, it's the most dominant one. but revit is almost exclusive to PC users. there are many companies out there that are non-PC based.

but simply put, u learn one, it's not hard to learn the other.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 11 2014, 10:07 PM)
so far in malaysia, it's the most dominant one. but revit is almost exclusive to PC users. there are many companies out there that are non-PC based.

but simply put, u learn one, it's not hard to learn the other.
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Non-PC based? can you elaborate on this? I would like to find out that the design generated by Revit can be imported or transferred to Autocad LT.
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QUOTE(josephlau7966 @ Nov 11 2014, 02:33 PM)
Non-PC based? can you elaborate on this? I would like to find out that the design generated by Revit can be imported or transferred to Autocad LT.
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non-PC as in other platforms apart from windows like macOS (archicad, although archicad is available on both platforms) or linux.

this page below lists a bunch of BIM software available in the market.

http://www.cad-addict.com/2010/03/list-of-...-providers.html

and yes, designs from revit can be exported to autocad LT (2D line drawings) or autocad (3D model) or most 3D modelling software out there.
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post Nov 12 2014, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(amir_tm @ Nov 6 2014, 11:20 AM)
very interesting discussion indeed..do BIM have something like library or database system where we can share the modelling information that being done by somebody else? just like sketchup with their 3Dwarehouse..
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No, Sketchup is not BIM. Sketchup is more like conceptualization tool. Sketchup dont tell you how much "profile of the component one particular "design" need. You sure can have the add on to the sketchup but it will just do particular division. Unlike BIM / BIM tools. it let you know the details in great depth to mm before you even wish to construct. such level known as LOD300


QUOTE(josephlau7966 @ Nov 11 2014, 11:52 PM)
Is Autodesk Revit the most popular at the moment? I am thinking over to learn that in the near future.
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It is and do learn now if you have chance.

QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 12 2014, 01:07 AM)
so far in malaysia, it's the most dominant one. but revit is almost exclusive to PC users. there are many companies out there that are non-PC based.

but simply put, u learn one, it's not hard to learn the other.
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Revit = PC-fag, Archicad = Pc-fag/Mac-fag unless Autodesk develop revit for Mac in near future..then the market will go all revit.
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Autodesk's strategy of giving free student license for 3 years is brilliant. Students will definitely use revit and cad in schools (original mah). So when they graduate and join firms who've yet to adopt BIM, they'll surely embrace autodesk's, as they have somebody who's familiar to it.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 13 2014, 01:06 AM)
Autodesk's strategy of giving free student license for 3 years is brilliant. Students will definitely use revit and cad in schools (original mah). So when they graduate and join firms who've yet to adopt BIM, they'll surely embrace autodesk's, as they have somebody who's familiar to it.
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actually, on that matter they are not strict..same goes archicad. as long you can prove you are student all good laugh.gif

last time it was annually, now its 3 years. I been using for quite awhile with no issues. rolleyes.gif
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Hi azarimy,

Do you recommend SketchUp for Architecture?

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the only catch is the software vendor price which is quite expensive to start with. Malaysia govt should give 50% discount tax to company who implement revit at first 5 years.. SME
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ Nov 12 2014, 02:10 PM)
Hi azarimy,

Do you recommend SketchUp for Architecture?

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i believe for most architects today, sketchup is the way of life. we introduce them very early during education, usually around 2nd semester of 1st year or 1st semester of 2nd year.

QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 12 2014, 02:11 PM)
the only catch is the software vendor price which is quite expensive to start with. Malaysia govt should give 50% discount tax to company who implement revit at first 5 years.. SME
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yup. i've been saying this for many years now. at the moment there are government loan support for companies to buy original software, but not specific to revit or any BIM software.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 13 2014, 09:59 AM)
i believe for most architects today, sketchup is the way of life. we introduce them very early during education, usually around 2nd semester of 1st year or 1st semester of 2nd year.
yup. i've been saying this for many years now. at the moment there are government loan support for companies to buy original software, but not specific to revit or any BIM software.
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when a small startup wish to enter the market with debt, they rather resorted to No. With loan ratio startup, alot dont wish to take as its like a disease.

By giving 50% off for legit startup, atleast it impact up the employment skills and speed up the implementation process with BIM.


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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Nov 13 2014, 03:45 AM)
when a small startup wish to enter the market with debt, they rather resorted to No. With loan ratio startup, alot dont wish to take as its like a disease.

By giving 50% off for legit startup, atleast it impact up the employment skills and speed up the implementation process with BIM.
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for startups, can apply government grant. for free.
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post Nov 13 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Nov 13 2014, 03:58 PM)
for startups, can apply government grant. for free.
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not everyone eligible to rolleyes.gif and with CTOS check and stuff, burn money is getting serious this day

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