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sunnyK
post Jun 1 2011, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ May 31 2011, 09:53 PM)
Ferrari cost RM800,000.00
Fuel consumption at 4 km per liter or 72.5 sen/km at RM2.90 per liter RON97.
Fuel consumption per year RM17,400 for 24,000 km
Per year, fuel cost 2.2% of car's worth.

65" Plasma cost RM22,000.00
Electricity cost RM1.4 per night or ~RM500 per year @ 500W/hr. 8 hr per night.
Per year, electricity cost 2.27% of TV's cost.

As you can see, the cost of running either Ferrari or 65" TV is around 2% of the product cost. Of course we all know that except little kids who need spoon feeding. Typical of a local education where kids are never encouraged to use their brain. A pity. If one can afford a Ferrari, 2% running cost should not be a problem. Likewise if one can afford a 65", 2% electricity cost shouldn't be either.
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my goodness. where in this part of the world does a new ferrari cost RM 800,000. maybe a 5 or more years old low end model and out of warranty and out of favor with the previous owner and with engine more ready for overhaul than running and you are using that as comparison with a new set panny 65''. your last few post as you suggest to yourself that you may have the education but you certainly lack tact and wisdom and common sense . oh dearie me

i have pointed out , a new set of 65'' inch can be own by a medium class here if he/she wanted to with the easy payment scheme offered by CC and ofcourse power consumption have to be considered as a medium class here have many other payment commitments too such as housing and car loans among others.

it is a known fact many potential big size plasmas buyer have switch away to LEDs because of the heavier power consumption factor of the big size plasmas

even a old ferrari at RM 800,000 as you suggested as comparison, could only be own by the super elites and most of the time ,this group of high income people will not have to worry about petrol consumption. well not all of them ,as i have known a few who have bought cars at this price range but still have worries about tyres change ,road tax renewal, parts replacement and certainly not the least , fuel consumption.

i thought the last time i check ,a new Ferrari cost RM 2.5 million and above and if i could afford that i would open my own petrol station . boy , you are using the wrong samples as comparison between a medium class who could just afford a little luxuries and a super elite who could afford to waste his


although you suggested and acted like you are like very educated like that but i hope you are not a university graduates and with little surprise, a kid who call himself Mickey supported you

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post Jun 1 2011, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Jun 1 2011, 10:11 AM)
my goodness. where in this part of the world does a new ferrari cost RM 800,000. maybe a 5 or more year old low end model and out of warranty and with engine more ready for overhaul than running and you are using that as comparison with a new set panny 65''. your last few post as you suggest to yourself  that you may have the education but you certainly lack tact and wisdom.

i have pointed out , a new set of 65'' inch can be own by a medium class here if he/she wanted to with the easy payment scheme offered by CC and ofcourse power consumption have to be considered as a medium class here have many other payment commitments too such as housing and car loans among others.

it is a known fact many potential big size plasmas buyer have switch away to LEDs because of the heavier power consumption factor of the big size plasmas

even a old ferrari at RM 800,000 as you suggested as comparison, could only be own by the super elites and most of the time ,this group of high income people will not have to worry about petrol consumption. well not all of them ,as i have known a few who have bought cars at this price range but still have worries about tyres change ,road tax renewal, parts replacement and certainly not the least , fuel consumption.

i thought the last time i check ,a new Ferrari cost RM 2.5 million and above and if i could afford that i would open my own petrol station . boy , you are using the wrong samples as comparison
although you suggested you are but i hope you are not a university graduates
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Ha ha. You are still missing the forest for the trees because you are too focused on details & figures and missing the main point.

When one says "a person who complained about electricity usage when buying a 65" Plasma is similar to a person who buy a Ferrari and complain about fuel price", it's emphasis a point, not the details and you are going on and on about details. Think about it for a second. Like you say, a Ferrari cost millions and a 65" only a fraction of a million so surely everybody else here beside you know that we are not talking about some absolute figure but rather talking about a particular point. I hope you are not a university graduate.

The point is, a person who can afford such things shouldn't really have too much to worry about running cost. But if running cost is paramount, they shouldn't have bought the Ferrari or the 65" in the 1st place.

Oh...the details you quoted. I am sure you are now using your investigative brain power and they are more correct than what I said. Good for you. As for me, it doesn't matter whether I am wrong about those figures or not because I am merely illustrating a point.
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post Jun 1 2011, 11:29 AM

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Added on June 1, 2011, 11:31 am
QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 1 2011, 10:49 AM)
Ha ha. You are still missing the forest for the trees because you are too focused on details & figures and missing the main point.

When one says "a person who complained about electricity usage when buying a 65" Plasma is similar to a person who buy a Ferrari and complain about fuel price", it's emphasis a point, not the details and you are going on and on about details. Think about it for a second. Like you say, a Ferrari cost millions and a 65" only a fraction of a million so surely everybody else here beside you know that we are not talking about some absolute figure but rather talking about a particular point. I hope you are not a university graduate.


The point is, a person who can afford such things shouldn't really have too much to worry about running cost. But if running cost is paramount, they shouldn't have bought the Ferrari or the 65" in the 1st place.


Oh...the details you quoted. I am sure you are now using your investigative brain power and they are more correct than what I said. Good for you. As for me, it doesn't matter whether I am wrong about those figures or not because I am merely illustrating a point.
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aren't you the one who go on to use figures and details as comparison and i want to point out that your sampling method as comparison is wrong as ownership of this two gadgets although under luxury category could come from very different income groups as far as affordability and running cost are concern

a owner of a new or for that matter even old ferrari need not have much to worry about running cost whereas a owner of a new panny65'' have to consider about it as to own a panny65'' is now within range of many medium class income group whereas , to own a Ferrari , is still restricted to a elite few high income group.

if you want to compare a panny with ferraris , you should use the panny 150 inch as comparison with monthly power consumption at probably RM 1,000 per month and a new set cost RM 250,000. hope you get it this time

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sunnyK,

I think the onus here is very simple. No need to do too many comparisons or whatsoever.

Just feel comfortable with what you think is correct and viable to you for that matter. And also to a lot of fence sitters here in LYN who are always not sure and end up getting more confused than Confucious himself with the barrage of info mostly which are personal feelings. Just digest the info and come up with a firm personal decision which your heart and pocket can accept. Once you have made up your mind then don't give a damn anymore on what you are going to hear in the future. Just enjoy what you are going to get.

To me the most important point is always get or buy what your heart, eye's and ear's wants and feel comfortable that you have decided something that you are happy about. After all at the end of the day it is you the buyer that gets to use and enjoy it for a long time and you will be the one who is going to foot the bill whether it is the initial purchase price or followup running costs.

What is more important is to learn how to make more money so that in future any purchases that you need pricing is always not the important primary factor to consider. Once it is secondary then you will find life to be much happier to deal with. That's what I do.
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post Jun 1 2011, 12:13 PM

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i did lots of research before i buy on my hard earn money

you are right but you sounded like confucius himself not confused ofcourse but philosophical


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post Jun 1 2011, 12:47 PM

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P42U30K or P42X30K can support or play MKV format or not through USB?

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QUOTE(noodlecore @ Jun 1 2011, 12:47 PM)
P42U30K or P42X30K can support or play MKV format or not through USB?
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according to the website, yes. have yet to try it out tho @ showroom.

http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...lasma_spec.html

Y (AVCHD / SD-VIDEO / Motion JPEG [Lumix] / MP4 [Xacti] / DivX HD / WMV / MKV / JPEG / MP3 / AAC / WMA playback)
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thanks for the info...
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post Jun 1 2011, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(aboo @ Jun 1 2011, 12:51 PM)
according to the website, yes. have yet to try it out tho @ showroom.

http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/asia2011/pr...lasma_spec.html

Y (AVCHD / SD-VIDEO / Motion JPEG [Lumix] / MP4 [Xacti] / DivX HD / WMV / MKV / JPEG / MP3 / AAC / WMA playback)
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What about V20K ? Got a Samsung C5500, still can't get it to play BD ISO though a friend here has stated some success with his C5500. Guess it is the file type behind the ISO layer.

How can I find out what the new firmware update can support ? Nothing much on this in Pany website.

Thanks.l

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post Jun 1 2011, 08:21 PM

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Hi Guys,

I got quote RM5k for 50V20. Is it a good deal ?
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post Jun 1 2011, 08:31 PM

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Added on June 1, 2011, 11:31 am
aren't you the one who go on to use  figures and details as comparison and i want to point out that your sampling method as comparison is wrong as ownership of this two gadgets although under luxury category could come from very different income groups as far as affordability and running cost are concern

a owner of a new or for that matter even old ferrari need not have much to  worry about running cost whereas a owner of a new panny65'' have to consider about it as to own a  panny65'' is now within range of many medium class income group  whereas , to own a Ferrari , is still restricted to a elite few high income group.

if you want to compare a panny with ferraris , you should use the panny 150 inch as comparison with monthly power consumption at probably RM 1,000 per month and a new set cost RM 250,000. hope you get it this time
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Ya, you are right and I am wrong. Sorry. I agree with you that a person who can spend RM22,000 buying a 65" TV should rightly be concerned about spending RM1.40 or less per night for electricity usage. Happy now, kiddo?



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post Jun 1 2011, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(abahwafi @ Jun 1 2011, 08:21 PM)
Hi Guys,

I got quote RM5k for 50V20. Is it a good deal ?
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I thought 50V20 ...v series no longer available in the market ? only got VT series
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post Jun 1 2011, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(HW-Racer @ Jun 1 2011, 10:08 PM)
I thought 50V20 ...v series no longer available in the market ? only got VT series
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Old stock maybe and they want to clear it fast.

Yet to see it physically at their shop. drool.gif
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 1 2011, 07:16 PM)
What about V20K ? Got a Samsung C5500, still can't get it to play BD ISO though a friend here has stated some success with his C5500. Guess it is the file type behind the ISO layer.

How can I find out what the new firmware update can support ? Nothing much on this in Pany website.

Thanks.l
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plumberly,

Are you sure that you got the correct BD-ISO file to test out?
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post Jun 2 2011, 07:34 AM

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Anyone has a break-in setting for 50' U30?
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post Jun 2 2011, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 1 2011, 08:31 PM)
Ya, you are right and I am wrong. Sorry. I agree with you that a person who can spend RM22,000 buying a 65" TV should rightly be concerned about spending RM1.40 or less per night for electricity usage. Happy now, kiddo?
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a newly introduced model will but a NEW SET of 65" may not necessary cost RM 22k and will infact cost much less if one is willing to wait just a couple of months with the same warranty coverage as well. a new set of 65/vt 20 should cost about RM 13,000 or lower now as i have read somewhere . similarly, the price of a new set of 65/VT30 will drop like hell a couple of months after launching . one may buy a new set of 65" TV but not always at launching price

i have to forcefully stop myself from debating with you from now

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QUOTE(tankiasu @ May 28 2011, 11:14 PM)
No ah, I saw it selling at RM15999 few weeks ago.
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Which model? Is it 3D?
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Jun 2 2011, 09:57 AM)
Which model? Is it 3D?
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Panasonic 65VT20K. Yea it's a 3D model


Added on June 2, 2011, 1:22 pm
QUOTE(abahwafi @ Jun 1 2011, 08:21 PM)
Hi Guys,

I got quote RM5k for 50V20. Is it a good deal ?
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Hmm to me not a very good deal. Coz I bought 50VT20K last month at RM5899. It came with the 3D Combo Kit that includes the BDT300 player.

Unless you really do not want the 3D feature la.

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QUOTE(tankiasu @ Jun 2 2011, 01:16 PM)
Hmm to me not a very good deal. Coz I bought 50VT20K last month at RM5899. It came with the 3D Combo Kit that includes the BDT300 player.
Unless you really do not want the 3D feature la.
Thanks bro, yes...i'm not interested in that 3D feature.

I just think that 50V20 should be slightly lower that 5K. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(sunnyK @ Jun 2 2011, 09:28 AM)
a newly introduced model will but a NEW SET of 65" may not necessary cost RM 22k and will infact cost much less if one is willing to wait just a couple of months with the same warranty coverage as well. a new set of 65/vt 20 should cost about RM 13,000 or lower now as i have read somewhere  . similarly, the price of a new set of 65/VT30 will drop like hell a couple of months after launching . one may buy a new set of 65" TV but not always at launching price

i have to forcefully stop myself from debating with you from now
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Why stop? I thought we are having fun.

While TV price may drop, electricity price will increase so I think you best not buy the 65". They consume too much electricity. How to afford? whistling.gif

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...3773&sec=nation

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