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post Mar 5 2011, 01:27 AM

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2-5 min check, 15 min explain, 1 min to calibrate.


Added on March 5, 2011, 1:29 ambut in between, u might need 30 min to think to calibrate or not, after explain, u get the whole idea why the current calibration is like that. what i do is not at the normal calibration, its something like hyper focusing term where u put the zone more front, causing back easier to bokeh too. so its not suitable for group photo, as group photo always focus the front most people,... my calibration will cause ppl behind to be softer.

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post Mar 5 2011, 02:19 AM

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Newbieeeeee: You could spot meter on the flowers and do a +1 EV - colors would look loads better.

Try buzzing around the flower like a bee until you find an angle you feel is 'magical' and has 'feel'.

You can use Focus Check Live View on your A580 - solves the problem of getting precise focus. That said the DOF is so big that you don't have to be exact!

Motor in lens versus motor in body, depends on the lens and focal length, and the gear ratios of the lens. There are slow and noisy focusing lenses with internal motors as well as fast and quiet screw-driven lenses.

ahpingko: Go into a Sony Style and test both lah. smile.gif

I would use the F1.8 more lah personally.

hiansitt: Not to forget, unchipped Nikkor lenses will not meter at all on less advanced Nikons. So you found a Nikkor 50mm F1.2? It won't even tell you what shutter speed so you gotta take a picture and then check to see if the exposure is correct.

8tvt: There are Carl Zeiss Jena lenses which are at least 50 years old (given that some were discontinued in 1960.)

Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f/2 alu M42 Lens Review
http://www.mflenses.com/content/view/16/29

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And here's my former Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm F2.4 in M42 mount. Notice that it focuses closer than 20cm from the sensor plane! Its maximum magnification, I measured, was 2.29x.

That said, the 30mm is not a bug shooter - it's a food, products and flowers shooter.

If you use a 180mm F3.5 Macro sure that's great for insects, but it's no good for food, products and flowers. The depth of field would be too shallow for when you want to get everything in focus (and stopping down more takes up more flash power!)

fansoption: Nice, I like how the shoe shot only has 3 elements in 3 colors.

cyruz13: Congratulations!

ieR: No, the Samyang 8mm F3.5 diagonal fisheye is 180 degrees from top-left to bottom-right on APS-C. Same as the Zenitar or Minolta/Sony 16mm F2.8 diagonal fisheye, also doing 180 degrees from top-left to bottom-right on full-frame.

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Only the Peleng 8mm F3.5 gets wider, with 180 degrees from top to bottom.

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Sony 16mm F2.8 diagonal fisheye on FF.

Nice upside-down shot! I like how well-controlled the light is. Well done!

kopitiam: You meant the Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, which does exist for A-mount.

yuhi: I'd go with the 35mm F1.8 and 85mm F1.4 for street photography on APS-C. Wide angle zooms are fine too.
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post Mar 5 2011, 03:36 AM

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180mm F3.5 Macro for food shooting means u have to stand outside teh restaurant, not inside. tongue.gif hahahah

albnok: last time i tested FF with 16mm fisheye, on tripod, then with A300 with samyang, the FF arent as wide (obviously) but i dunno where i put the pic i took, cant find @.@

(that time i forgot to set the A850 to shoot in crop mode to use the samyang, totally forgot, that way will have same plane from the sensor to compare.

actually, i doubt the 180 degree claim. does it mean its 180 degree from the 16mm, not from the camera. so the 8mm still wider then the 16mm in FF wor. (crop to FF, 8mm = 12mm in FF) so its 180 at the 12mm. maybe we can have a "myth buster" during the TT to confirm biggrin.gif i also curiouss hahahaha
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post Mar 5 2011, 03:39 AM

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post Mar 5 2011, 07:07 AM

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nice angle, though sometimes i feel lazy to crawl like that.. luckily got LV yo.. icon_rolleyes.gif
hopefully today can shoot something with the same view..
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post Mar 5 2011, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Mar 5 2011, 02:19 AM)
Newbieeeeee: You could spot meter on the flowers and do a +1 EV - colors would look loads better.

Try buzzing around the flower like a bee until you find an angle you feel is 'magical' and has 'feel'.

You can use Focus Check Live View on your A580 - solves the problem of getting precise focus. That said the DOF is so big that you don't have to be exact!

Motor in lens versus motor in body, depends on the lens and focal length, and the gear ratios of the lens. There are slow and noisy focusing lenses with internal motors as well as fast and quiet screw-driven lenses.

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Alright. Thanks!


Added on March 5, 2011, 8:51 amWow, Check out their ISO performance! notworthy.gif



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post Mar 5 2011, 09:26 AM

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Quite a time never log-in here. I will go TT on Saturday & Sunday & try to look for you guys between workshops. Cheers... nod.gif

QUOTE(ieR @ Mar 4 2011, 10:37 PM)
TT info
Friday - ieR, call me up (012 877 0990), can set time to check calibration. fees: 1 mcD... lol

1. ieR
2. Cjlai
3. emptyball?
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Saturday 12 march 2011, KLCC, 12PM. should be in the KLCC foodcourt. or was it convention foodcourt?
TT can start between classes, till evening. smile.gif

1. ieR - will bring calibration tool. 012 877 0990 (list your number so we can keep in touch)
2. chiahau
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5. albnok?
6. killabee (alphanatics.com)
7. zstan
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9. gjtan + 1 Fren
10. shootkk (maybe cannot make it but put name first)
11. iamKiet + 1 Fren 
12. newbieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wink.gif
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Sunday: TT can start between classes, till evening. smile.gif
1. CodyX
2. ieR
3. lwliam (just rmbed that my sessions are all on sunday)
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6. killabee (alphanatics.com)
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8. CJlai (still have the film for lwliam? if got, bring ya)
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post Mar 5 2011, 10:13 AM

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Minolta 2875 f2.8 good lens? Why is it so cheap compared to the cz2470?
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post Mar 5 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Mar 5 2011, 10:13 AM)
Minolta 2875 f2.8 good lens? Why is it so cheap compared to the cz2470?
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1.because it can't do 24mm

2. because it doesn't have SSM

3. because it's not called Carl Zeiss tongue.gif

otherwise... flare control...centre to corner sharpeness.. CA control..distortion... cz2470 would most likely to excel in these areas(especially when wide open) compared to the minolta..anyway just guessing only i've never touched the 2875 before. smile.gif
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post Mar 5 2011, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Mar 5 2011, 10:54 AM)
1.because it can't do 24mm

2. because it doesn't have SSM

3. because it's not called Carl Zeiss  tongue.gif

otherwise... flare control...centre to corner sharpeness.. CA control..distortion... cz2470 would most likely to excel in these areas(especially when wide open) compared to the minolta..anyway just guessing only i've never touched the 2875 before.  smile.gif
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I see. Because theres this guy in the garage sales selling it for Rm1350. The CZ2470 is Rm5000 yo.

Anyways, Tyvm! smile.gif
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post Mar 5 2011, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Mar 5 2011, 10:58 AM)
I see. Because theres this guy in the garage sales selling it for Rm1350. The CZ2470 is Rm5000 yo.

Anyways, Tyvm! smile.gif
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for APSC bodies better get 1750 tammy liao... or 1680 CZ (tho not 2.8).... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Mar 5 2011, 10:59 AM)
for APSC bodies better get 1750 tammy liao... or 1680 CZ (tho not 2.8)....  rclxms.gif
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No laah. Not getting. Just asking. No money liao. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Mar 5 2011, 11:02 AM)
No laah. Not getting. Just asking. No money liao. tongue.gif
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just saying liao. HAHAHAHA....
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post Mar 5 2011, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Mar 5 2011, 11:04 AM)
just saying liao. HAHAHAHA....
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post Mar 5 2011, 11:20 AM

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Why do people get the Tamron SP 90 F2.8 instead of the SP60 F2? If get the SP90 can sell 50mmf1.8 portrait lens liao? hmm.gif

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post Mar 5 2011, 11:28 AM

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is the sp60 even available on a-mount? hmm.gif
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post Mar 5 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Mar 5 2011, 11:28 AM)
is the sp60 even available on a-mount? hmm.gif
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http://shashinki.com/shop/tamron-60mm-auto...facturers_id=41
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post Mar 5 2011, 11:31 AM

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like what sifu achew said (where is he btw? hmm.gif ) sp90 too sharp for portrait laugh.gif
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the last time eddybeh won the sp60, they said no A-mount... oh well... but the sp60 i think is costlier than the 90

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