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MisterLee
post Oct 4 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Oct 4 2014, 12:24 AM)
I'm no longer a student though haha
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No worries, the more the merrier! Plus, you should be one of the most experienced ones here.
Where are you now?
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post Oct 4 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 4 2014, 01:21 AM)
Nope, it is called GMMF, they promote moderation through activities and deal with social issues locally and internationally.

Great! You have the spirit! thumbup.gif Try to convince some of your college friends to apply there as well, it is good to have people on the same boat as you. Well, I haven't heard anyone say that about the US, to each of our own I guess.

I am taking the November seating if that is what you meant.
Yeah, I never heard of it till I started college, but after a bit of digging it seems pretty popular as it is time and cost efficient.

It was more of an influence than a one-advice thing, so I don't think I can give you any insight on that.
Well, it depends. If I get my top choices it is a no-brainer, but if its UT Austin vs Uni of Melbourne, sigh, I don't know.  rclxub.gif
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Never heard of it but sounds like a pretty decent one smile.gif

Thanks!
I am though, I have a really wierd talent of influencing people, my friends say brainwashing, but I think its just irresistable convincing. Plus, I don't do it on purpose most of the time. Now, most people just come to me and ask right away, and I essentially recommend them, guide them and all that. I have 5 "clients" at the moment nod.gif whistling.gif cool2.gif
Well, I hear that on occasion. I dunno, they just say its not for them or something like that.

Um, no, I meant how long did you study for the SAT's, like how long did you take to feel confident?
Almost everyone in my school knows nothing about it :-/

What are your top choices at the moment then?
Go to UT Austin! I forgot what major you're going to pursue, but it should be fine there either way biggrin.gif

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post Oct 5 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 4 2014, 01:59 PM)
If you're planning to come back, you should know that there are more University of Melbourne alumni here compared to UT alumni. If you'd ask any random person, chances are they'll think Melbourne is a far better university since they hear the name often and UT is some unknown chapalang university.

I'm not even kidding. You can be from UPenn, Columbia, UChigaon, U Illinois, UCLA and they'll have the same perception too since it's unknown in this part of the world.
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As much as it pains my America-loving heart, you are right. People here in Malaysia know more about Australian and UK universities, not so for the US, unless you go to Harvard then you are fine, but if you went to Harvard there is no reason to come back here =-=
I hate people here sometimes!

I get it, I think its really sad. Those are really world class universities that bring amazing work opportunities, especially UPenn and Columbia (NYC Wall Street) UCLA (Silicon Valley). So unfair they are not getting the attention they so rightfully deserved sad.gif But well, Malaysians do tend to go to UK and Aus, unless th trend breaks, it'll be like that for the longest time.
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post Oct 5 2014, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 4 2014, 05:45 PM)
Hi,

Yes, I intend to come back here to work, but not right after I finish my tertiary education, I want to work there for a couple years.

Of course, even by world ranking UMelb higher than UTAustin, but there are other factors such as costs of living, tuition fees, job opportunities etc.

Thanks for the advice though, appreciate it biggrin.gif
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Well, overall UMelb is higher, but by several subjects, UT Austin just destroys it completely though. And recruiting in UT Austin is super vibrant with really amazing connections, so nobody really worries about job opportunities, of course, if you're willing to work hard enough and network vigorously.
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post Oct 5 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2014, 09:41 PM)
90% of people who stayed back to work in the states will not return to msia after that....

the ratio is about the same for australia...

much less for uk....
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You're right about the US, most I have heard is that they say pay is much higher, they love life there, they have more potential there and all that. Most really don't come back. Actually, I don't know anyone who came back hmm.gif

The story now is, or so I have heard, so correct me when I'm wrong, alot of people I know, cousins, friends, friends of friends, they say they have to come back to Malaysia, no choice, something about the government not wanting more immigrants over, or that jobs are hard to find.

I agree with you in UK though, not sure why, haven't actually heard a story about it.
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post Oct 5 2014, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 4 2014, 09:41 PM)
90% of people who stayed back to work in the states will not return to msia after that....

the ratio is about the same for australia...

much less for uk....
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Maybe, but as of now I intend to support and repay my parents as soon as I can.
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post Oct 5 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 5 2014, 12:21 AM)
Maybe, but as of now I intend to support and repay my parents as soon as I can.
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All the more reason why people don't return....
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post Oct 5 2014, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(MisterLee @ Oct 4 2014, 11:59 PM)
Never heard of it but sounds like a pretty decent one smile.gif

Thanks!
I am though, I have a really wierd talent of influencing people, my friends say brainwashing, but I think its just irresistable convincing. Plus, I don't do it on purpose most of the time. Now, most people just come to me and ask right away, and I essentially recommend them, guide them and all that. I have 5 "clients" at the moment  nod.gif  whistling.gif  cool2.gif
Well, I hear that on occasion. I dunno, they just say its not for them or something like that.

Um, no, I meant how long did you study for the SAT's, like how long did you take to feel confident?
Almost everyone in my school knows nothing about it :-/

What are your top choices at the moment then?
Go to UT Austin! I forgot what major you're going to pursue, but it should be fine there either way biggrin.gif
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Yup, it isn't that popular, but I am happy there smile.gif

Ahha, well, as long as you all see it through, I am sure you guys will all do well.

To be honest, I never felt confident about it, so I really can't help you here, sorry.

I plan to do accouting, which has that certification issue I mentioned earlier as I worry it might be a hassle to "port" it should I come back to work.


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post Oct 5 2014, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Oct 5 2014, 12:24 AM)
All the more reason why people don't return....
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There's this mentality which makes them think they need to return asap to look after their old parents and siblings. Of course it makes more sense to stay there, earn more and bring the whole family over after a few year but they normally want to do it the other way around. I've tried to my wits end to convince my a few of my friends to stay on but they wouldn't. Maybe it's a cultural issue, I don't know.

QUOTE(MisterLee @ Oct 5 2014, 12:04 AM)
As much as it pains my America-loving heart, you are right. People here in Malaysia know more about Australian and UK universities, not so for the US, unless you go to Harvard then you are fine, but if you went to Harvard there is no reason to come back here =-=
I hate people here sometimes!

I get it, I think its really sad. Those are really world class universities that bring amazing work opportunities, especially UPenn and Columbia (NYC Wall Street) UCLA (Silicon Valley). So unfair they are not getting the attention they so rightfully deserved sad.gif But well, Malaysians do tend to go to UK and Aus, unless th trend breaks, it'll be like that for the longest time.
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I learned it the hard way. Wish someone told me before I blew my money in US...
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post Oct 5 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(MisterLee @ Sep 29 2014, 05:19 PM)
First of all, I'd like to know when did you do your SAT's? And how long did you prepare for it without (or with) guidance

1. Well, if you opt for a top school, like those Ivy Leagues and New Ivies (NYU, UChicago, Stanford and such)or Public Ivies (UCB,UMich,Utexas at Austin, UVA) , take the A Levels IB or STPM, if you're not looking to aim that high, go through the ADP, easiest path.

2. Well, the Public Ivies, as stated above, are actually on par or sometimes surpassing some private colleges. They also do not provide alot of financial aid, especially to international students, its really close to nothing at all, and they are not as cheap as people say. The rest of course, are cheap, quality of course, I'm talking about schools like University of Minnesota, U of Arizona, U of Florida, U of Massachusetts and the likes, but not as good as the well regarded Public Ivies, if you are looking to Finance, go for Public Ivies, if the rest, you can try the others, work hard and NETWORK, you will have a bright future in the US either way.

3. Well, to me, and doing unfathomable amounts of research, the US really has alot of advantages compared to the UK and Australia. First and most obvious of all, the US has a much higher salary than in the UK and quite a bit more than Australia. And then there is the cost of living, the UK and Aus has a really high cost of living while real estate is also sky high, both aggregate and compared to wages.

Also, it helps that the US is the largest economy in the world, by far, providing people with a large market for businesses, opportunities, diversity and dynamism. Because ask yourself this, where else can you find a country that leads in so many aspects? If you go for finance, there is an enormous market backing you up, with an abundance of capital and or private equities to fuel your needs, unparalleled. If you go for engineering, good god, you'd be surrounded by the best engineers in the entire world, with a country that leads in aerospace, software and just about any type of engineering. You'd be essentially consumed by opportunities offered by this country, provided you work your ass off. I have so many family members that go there and are either rich as hell (business) or a loaded professional (pays very very well) .

I can probably think alot more, but then I'd be flooding this post, if you'd like to know more, you can PM me. smile.gif  laugh.gif  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the reply!

I did it June/July this year, studied about a-month-and-a-half prior to the test, and all the guidance I got was from the College Confidential forum.
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post Oct 5 2014, 02:37 PM

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I'm spm candidates 2014 and i want to study law
Can someone tell me do harvard have undergraduate degree and what i should do if i want to study at harvard?

Thank you
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post Oct 5 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(adk225 @ Oct 5 2014, 02:37 PM)
I'm spm candidates 2014 and i want to study law
Can someone tell me do harvard have undergraduate degree and what i should do if i want to study at harvard?

Thank you
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all law degrees are graduate entry.....you need to have a another degree first...

the legal system is different in the us, and you cannot practice law in msia with a us law degree as you cannot sit for the clp...
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post Oct 5 2014, 06:20 PM

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what if one wants to practice in US? is that even remotely possible? (racial issues, immigration issues etc)
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post Oct 5 2014, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(arconium @ Oct 5 2014, 06:20 PM)
what if one wants to practice in US? is that even remotely possible? (racial issues, immigration issues etc)
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why do you think there will be racial issues there?...
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post Oct 5 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(myming @ Oct 5 2014, 01:08 AM)
Yup, it isn't that popular, but I am happy there smile.gif

Ahha, well, as long as you all see it through, I am sure you guys will all do well.

To be honest, I never felt confident about it, so I really can't help you here, sorry.

I plan to do accouting, which has that certification issue I mentioned earlier as I worry it might be a hassle to "port" it should I come back to work.
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Alright, um, how about, finish studying? As in finish all there is to know for the SAT's?

Ohh, right, for accounting it is a lot of work. We have different systems. It also goes the other way around, if a person has a non-US accounting degree and wants to work in the US, it is alot of work, you need to take exams and all that stuff, and then it is not guaranteed that you get to work there.
All being said, accounting jobs are so much higher pay than it is here or most of the world, why would you want to come back?
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 5 2014, 08:26 AM)
There's this mentality which makes them think they need to return asap to look after their old parents and siblings. Of course it makes more sense to stay there, earn more and bring the whole family over after a few year but they normally want to do it the other way around. I've tried to my wits end to convince my a few of my friends to stay on but they wouldn't. Maybe it's a cultural issue, I don't know.
I learned it the hard way. Wish someone told me before I blew my money in US...
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Um well, I told my mom that I will not be coming back for the longest time, only for visits and thats it. And she seems to agree with me, she said that if you are capable of staying there, stay there and don't come back, and when the time comes, she and my father will join me in the US (She asked for a warm place like Malaysia). My dad on the other hand, thinks about the same, he wants all 3 of us brothers to leave this country and never come back.
what do you mean by staying on? You mean in the US?

Yeah... But I don't intend to come back, so I should be fine. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

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post Oct 5 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(brianlzf @ Oct 5 2014, 11:29 AM)
Thanks for the reply!

I did it June/July this year, studied about a-month-and-a-half prior to the test, and all the guidance I got was from the College Confidential forum.
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So what are your choices now at the moment?

Alright, noted! Everyone seem to have similar time frames to study for the SAT's, I hope I do get at least 2100 cry.gif
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(MisterLee @ Oct 5 2014, 09:13 PM)
So what are your choices now at the moment?

Alright, noted! Everyone seem to have similar time frames to study for the SAT's, I hope I do get at least 2100  cry.gif
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If you get a 2100, you probably want to look at someplace that's ranked higher than UT
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(adk225 @ Oct 5 2014, 02:37 PM)
I'm spm candidates 2014 and i want to study law
Can someone tell me do harvard have undergraduate degree and what i should do if i want to study at harvard?

Thank you
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Hi,

Unfortunately, US colleges do not offer undergraduate degrees for law. It is recommended that you take subjects like English, public speaking, government, history, philosophy, economics, and mathematics. Because you will be competing with tens upon thousands of hopefuls just like you, whether they are American or International, it is always a good idea that you enrol into a reputable school. Since, you'd like to try Harvard, that is even more important. Although Harvard is amazingly holistic and they don't mind if your school has a relatively muted brand. The secret is, you have to stand out. What makes Harvard pick you over a thousand or more prospective students?

Note that Harvard does not just look at grades. Even with a 4.0 GPA does far from guaranteeing a seat for you in Harvard, or any other top school for that matter. There are other schools that are just as good as Harvard, so don't go dead set on one, you'll definitely regret it later on.

A word of advice though, if you want to pursue law in the US, thats great! Salaries are, if I'm not wrong, one of the highest paying in the world. So, go wild! But you should know that you can't come back to Malaysia without a set of problems in your way. So think it through and prepare accordingly. Also, you'll be working your ass off smile.gif
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post Oct 5 2014, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Oct 5 2014, 09:18 PM)
If you get a 2100, you probably want to look at someplace that's ranked higher than UT
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My first choice is NYU Stern School of Business, sir!
I am praying to all the gods available in this world that I do get in to NYU!

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