Hi
So basically if I am applying for US college after Form 5, straight after SPM I will be enrolled into a four year Liberal Arts System, whereby I spend 4 years as an undergrad, then graduating as a Bachelor of Arts & Science, then continue on to post graduate study?

Is this the usual system? Or am I any way wrong? lol, trying to clarify..

And btw, what is different in comparision to choosing UK syllabus?

So what do people usually do after their undergrad years? after graduating, going after Masters or working already?

in a nutshell,

US - 4 years undergrad
UK - 3 years undergrad

US - a lot of subjects
UK - maybe 3 or 4

US - more focus on extra curricular
UK - more focus on exam results

okay. for US, u need either SATs, ADP, or exchange program right?
but since SAT results and SPM results need to wait for results to arrive, probably won't be in time to apply for application right? SO will need to waste one year waiting for the results?

If not, do we usually use SPM trial results in the portfolio?

I heard something of a one-and-a-half-year intensive course for undergrad, anyone heard anything of it or something similar?

Haha thanks for all the great advice thus far

Well what about attending US College first? 4 years of undergrad right?

hi i have a fast question: so mostly its recommended to go for A levels here then apply for Transfer to US schools, but usually thats the HARD way to get in, why dont people apply directly after form 5?? i mean, from most of the websites they are prioritizing admissions more than transfer students am i right??

thought freshmen meant 15 year olds in the US ? hehe

does the SAT Subject Tests need to have something to do with the degree you're pursuing?

Hi I would like to share my future study plans in US, hope to get some insights:

1. Currently SPM,
2. go for AUP(INTI) or ADTP (Taylor's), (optional: get bursary for 30 free credit hours) for 1+3 programme in Engineering
3. After acquiring my Bachelor's, start working in US, and work for PR,
OR
pursue Masters in Engineering, Medicine or Law

So my concept (or misconception) is that, once I get a Bachelor's Degree from a US Uni, i can apply for Professional courses e.g. LSATS or MCAT and once i graduate from that Masters degree I am already the same as a houseman back here in UK systems.

This is because the US only recognise Masters degree as the qualification to be an actual professional in that respective field.

Meaning to say, I will have a Bachelors degree in Engineering, and CAN pursue Masters in Engineering, Law or Medicine. Thus, upon completion of the Masters, I am an actual Engineer/Law/Doctor, just without internship and registration to the respective Board of X Profession.

How true is this?

Hi, would like to know what are my options if I take A Levels vs SAM vs ADP if I want to venture into the US to study,
A levels costs 1 and half years while SAM is 1 year.
Assuming costs of Pre U is negligible, if I get a score in A levels of 4A or 3A1B or something like that, won't I still need to pay for 4 years of US Uni afterwards, or if I get a ATAR in SAM of 85 for instance, I would also need to pay for my own education in the US, if there are no scholarships available for such "Mediocre" results (sorry these are just examples, maybe they are great results but this is just quoting a scenario)

Wouldn't it be cheaper and easier if I enroll in the ADP program, give in my all, and transfer to a good school in the US, while also having a shot of entering the Ivies (however slim)
Doesn't ADP sound great in this sense?
It saves time.

I believe that we can excel in any course we go in, but I just dont get whats the point of going for A Levels or SAM, if we are NOT the 1%. You are just going to start 4 years of Uni edu when u r done with A Levels, not to mention that your peers in ADP are already starting their 3rd year.

Any comments on this please?

Even so, how about SAMs even compare to the A Levels? SAM is only 1 year, and is considered the Grade 12 of australian syllabus, does that count? That's my next option besides ADP, albeit they say the curriculum is much tougher and compact than A levels, wouldn't you say SAM saves more time?

Because weighing the SAM and A Levels, they are roughly the same in curriculum and recognition, but SAM consumes less time. Would you consider that? Why and why not?

And besides that, you mean u have not figured out what you will do AFTER your A Levels, what if they don't offer you financial aid at all? What are you going to do then, holding your results with 1A3Bs? (since the last example was too good hahaha) Are you going to enroll in a local U and be done with it?

Meanwhile ADP only costs 2 years overseas study. So my analysis is this, those with enough money to sponsor their children for 2 years of US study should go for ADP, but A Levels/SAM would get us to the Ivies if we are so determined to do so, but when it comes right down to it, would it be worth it to study A levels living the dream of one day studying at Harvard while the reality being that we could never achieve that four flat and end up studying at Curtin or Reading or something (no grudge against them whatsoever, I'm just sayin')

Because we need to face the fact that economically and intellectually speaking, sometimes we are just not cut out for that future, but of course we can bet on that slim probability that we might succeed, does that mean that we should go all out and when all else fails, we abandon our original plan of studying overseas and expanding our sights?

Do you mean A Levels do not count as a Grade 12 equivalent but merely a subsidiary course which may or may not have credits transferable to the university of your choice?

Then, do you recommend I take the SATs, then apply for the Us Unis (Ivies or any other tier 1), meanwhile focusing on my A-Levels and hope for the best? Is this what you mean? Are you saying that A Levels are not considered as a fundamental course to enter an American Uni?
I knew this, but they all say that A Levels have a higher chance to get into the more prestige uni, I think it is owing to the fact that we all start a new leaf in A Levels and most ppl keep a clean record during their college life, thus their "new" and "clean" record enables them the admission, and not the A Levels itself. Am I correct?

Yeah this is where it gets confusing, LesAffreux said that SPM IS considered as Grade 12, so which one is correct?

Which category does ADP fall under, when we enroll in ADP, we are technically US-system Students, studying a degree program and thus already graduated high school right?

What are the good unis that would accept SPM Grads, MisterLee?
I'm looking for engineering/computer science, preferably West Coast, preferably near the valley, looking for jobs in the tech line
I have taken the SATs, but its not a particular good score, I plan to retake it so SATs are no problem for me. But I have a hard time finding a good uni to apply to as many of them are either low tier or too high up. Any good recommendations?

speaking of which, how do you extend your working period in US? from what I heard you only get a F-1 Visa which lasts one year right? after that you get kicked straight back to Msia unless you are sorta "vouched for" by your boss?

what if one wants to practice in US? is that even remotely possible? (racial issues, immigration issues etc)