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mumeichan
post Apr 10 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 10 2011, 01:54 AM)
I'll be heading to the states next year, hopefully if i pass my pointer i will smile.gif

I don't think its fair to look down on those who stick to their own race, although it's not the best of what's overseas experience supposed to be, but not everyone is able to mingle around easily. language barriers, cultural barriers, many factors. What should be done is to help them out maybe? Instead of scorning them, which would make it worse.

Anyway, im hoping to apply to University of Washington. very keeeen on it biggrin.gif
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Eee, while I'm not disgusted at Malaysian who just stick to Malaysian, I know for sure that the bolded part is a very lame excuse. It's in fact an excuse born when politicians, psychological and sociological on the 20th century try to give a scientific sounding terms or explanation for every small problem.

In reality, while cultural and language barriers do exist, I do not think it's anything like a 'barrier'. It's at the most a short period of uneasiness, unless you set it as a barrier in your mind. In Malaysia, there is a huge cultural difference between many races and in many areas, Indians and Chinese do not speak the same kind of Malay that Malays use to speak among themselves. I mean the slang words and such. While we may not be very integrated, I don't think anyone see it as a big problem to make friends with or talk to members or other races, or feel particularly uncomfortable if one is invited to a cultural festival or another race. So really it isn't much harder to mix with whites or blacks.


Added on April 10, 2011, 10:40 am
QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 10 2011, 10:13 AM)
Cultureshock is a very real and alive phenomenon, even if in malaysia you speak a competent level of english, it doesn't mean you can click culturally, most malaysians don't have that strong command of english to the point of confidence. Why is it that you say that they aren't accepting of others? Could it be that they just don't know HOW to interact? and so they keep quiet and just do what they know they can do? Isn't it a defense mechanism? to be with the familiar? Like i said, of course it'd be great to get out of your comfort zone, especially in the US. But for those who do have a problem, looking down on them and shunning them is only gonna make it worse. As to studying overseas, some people value the education as it is, an education, just a degree. So they don't feel the need to have all the social interaction for them to feel that it's worthwhile eventhough i disagree with that.

Anyway, back on topic. I know that TOEFL is the main english proficiency test for the US, could IELTS serve as a substitute? my sponsors are only willing to pay for IELTS unfortunately.


Added on April 10, 2011, 10:15 am
Natalie Portman went to Yale, Emma Watson went to Brown. dunno who else lol
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Honestly I haven't really met anyone who has been culture-"shocked". And you don't need to speak English competently to be able to communicate with them. Sometimes I don't get half the things a black person is speaking is they use ebonics to the full. There are alot of people who are very poor at English and mingle around very well. There are alot alot of people who speak good English by have an accent. Alot of white have a hard time understanding what I say if I talk too fast cause my accent sounds weird to them.

And erm, some colleges do accept IELTS, most don't. Of course you should email your college. And I don't think it's too hard to persuade your sponsor to pay for your TOEFL.

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post Apr 10 2011, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 10 2011, 10:49 AM)
Well, what do you suggest is the reason malaysians stick together? They simply don't want to?

hmm it seems that practically all unis that i want to apply to do accept IELTS, thanks though smile.gif
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Then take IELTS lor... As long as the school accepts it and you're above the cut off point, I don't think it makes a difference which you take.


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post Apr 10 2011, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(latias93 @ Apr 10 2011, 01:05 PM)
Malaysians are too comfortable speaking Manglish. Not that it's bad, but I know some of them are very afraid and try very hard to keep a 'normal' English sentence while talking to foreigners instead of speaking rojak as one would do to other Malaysians. Those in the US actually have competent level of English. Being in Malaysia, sometimes seeing a mat salleh is such a big deal to us (especially when we're younger). Perhaps it's this? Something we carry forward till adulthood?
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Err no, they don't. And for casual conversations, the level of English hardly matters. Some international students write very well but have a hard time stringing sentences in speech, that doesn't matter. And honestly, does anyone not use colloquial language when they're speaking. And I guarantee you, even if someone ended every sentence with "la" it wouldn't hinder the conversation one bit, they'd just get used to it. In fact, even if you pronounce the word wrong, they'd get it, cause language is flexible. You can say fla for flour, sal-men for salmon and they'd still get you despite the large difference. If they have negative prejudices against international people, that's one thing, but if they're willing to be friendly from the beginning, language is their least concern.
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post Apr 11 2011, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(rokai88 @ Apr 11 2011, 12:23 AM)
i am going there soon, and i one of the main reasons why i am going(besides studying) is to experience new things and meet new people. regardless if youre send there by your parents or scholarships i am pretty sure they woudlnt want you to remain in your comfort zone and only sticks with malaysians. since youre there why not mixed around? so you can see more and experience.

however, i do believe that cultural difference might hinder your effort in making new friends. and i am not talking about language barriers here. for example muslims have a lot of restrictions. cannot drink, no touching man-woman, eat only halal food etc. so it would be difficult for them to participate in a lot of social activities since bar is a common hangout place. plus eating is another issues since alot of sociallizing happens during meals its already a negative point.

it also depends what level of friendship is in perspective. is it a hi-h-, bye-bye kind of friends you only meet in class? is it a only academic related (assignments, study) type of friends? or it is the friends who you spend most of the time with hanging out, shopping, movies etc? because if youre talking about the later it would require a lot of compromising from the both party? would they not hangout in bars? would they only eat at halal restaurant? since friendship is based on similarities of interest this can be a major drawback would you think so? if a definition of "fun" differ from one individual to another. maybe being friends is not fun anymore?

i am not saying this can be used as excuses. but it would require a lot compromising and understanding for both side. difficult but can be done. so MAYBE labelling them "disgusting" is a bit harsh.
anyways, i strongly feel sport is the best bonding tools. maybe its the easiest way to start making new friends smile.gif
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I'm not in for the 'disgusting' deabte but...you have a few misconceptions. I feel it's partly due to the mass media.

First, many people go to the bars on Saturday, after exams, freer weeks and such, but it's not like the bar is the de facto hanging out place. Most people hangout on campus, the dorms and local restaurants, not the bar. Not everyone drinks. The people who actually party are even rarer. No one needs to mix with that crowd if it isn't their thing. And I mean even for people who drink and party, it's not like they are doing it 24/7.

I'm not saying their all nice and good, like any place in the world, you can find saints and angels down to bastards and b****es. But there are enough friendly people around.

And just because you're friends it doesn't mean you need to hangout with them 24/7. If one likes movies, then go for movies, but one might not like football, then just skip the football game. It doesn't mean ditching Malaysian, but it means not living in a Malaysian coconut shell exclusively. Of course we're Malaysians, and we should get acquainted with the Malaysia there and be friends with them. We can promote out culture and language too and we can always invite them to our place for Malaysian festivities.

There are ALOT of Jews in US and the religious ones also follow all kinds of strict rules like Muslims. I don't see them complaining about making friends? ANy Muslim person can easily friends Americans who will go out of the way to a halal restaurant, or hangout at an ice-creame shop or drink shop or buy stuff from the halal shop to cook.

Yea it requires compromising and understanding, everything does, even here in Malaysia. It's not doing anything unusual or bizarre by being compromising. And like spunkberry said, Americans are crazy over Asian culture. Sometimes you wonder why Malaysia has so many tourist right? They just like it, seeing different things. If you tell them you're from Malaysia, the first thing they'll say it "wow cool" but they don't even know where Malaysia is. But as it goes along they'll take an interest in it.

And again, by no means I think it's all roses. Sure I've experience discrimination and such before. But I really don't see it as a hindrance, and I think having that mindset keeps one for being really open to other people.


Added on April 11, 2011, 12:53 am
QUOTE(rokai88 @ Apr 11 2011, 12:36 AM)
my point is: cultures differences MIGHT be a drawback  in making good friends as it requires a lot compomising from both party.

dont pin points on individuals. i am talking as whole here. if for example you dont abides the islamic rules anymore my arguments wouldnt be valid on you anymore.

besides don't assume all muslims are your friends smile.gif
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See, why does it require "alot" of compromising? Do you feel like you're giving up a whole lot by not eating char siew with your Malay friends? Do you think you Malays are giving up alot when they hear Chinese and Indian people speak Malay in their accents?

I'm not arguing with you about me being right and you being wrong. I'm saying that some implicit attitudes like this, feeling "alot" when there really isn't alot of compromising does make it harder to make friends. People may not be consciously aware of everything they do, but the amount of smiles, the way we smile, the tone of our voice and alot of body language comes into play. This is believe is far more of a hindrance to making friends than language or culture can ever be.

I've nothing to gain or lose by arguing here, so that's not my reason of posting, I do sincerely wish they you guys who will be spending a hell lot of money on your education get the most out of the cultural experience. That you'll make close friends from all over the world, not just US, who you'll be calling back 10 years from now. A Lot of people do come here with ideal of making friends and such but suddenly fall back to their own culture pocket, why because they really have some mental block in going out, and not everyone realizes it or even wants to admit it. I'm not free from that either.

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post Apr 11 2011, 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(rokai88 @ Apr 11 2011, 01:31 AM)
hahaha. my arguments is on culture difference in respective of muslim believer. i dont know why you made it a "malay" thing.  i see you have "somethings" againts the malays. i seriously woudlnt want to go into that. lets keep it a healthy thread smile.gif
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I'm sorry if it sounded like a 'malay thing' to you. I really didn't intend that.
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post Apr 12 2011, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Seiryu @ Apr 12 2011, 09:14 AM)

People study in America to appreciate the high standard of education offered in the respective universities, either by learning from ivy league graduate professors, indulge in cross national discussion about world politics, using state of the art equipments, or involving themselves in real life projects with established American Companies like Facebook, Google, and GM. 


Mixing with American to "learn their culture", while important, is a secondary thing.

By failing to see the difference between American education and the education back in Malaysia, you have failed to appreciate the high quality universities education in United States.  You, my dear, are the one who is wasting money studying in the United States and you are the one who is better off studying in local universities.

Seriously, you keep poking the "Malaysian groups", accusing them of not learning the American culture by sticking to their own groups.  Enlighten me, what have you learned about American culture, that is so special and unique, that those who "stick to their own groups" cannot learn?
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That parts really applies only to a very small fraction of colleges in US which have foreign students in it. And even in very good schools who have some or all of those, only a small number of students make use of these academic opportunities. I've been in a class with less than 30 people and they don't even know the lecturer's name. So I think immersion into the culture is as important as realizing one's academic goals. Even research professors know that academia is only half the story. I really don't see how it's secondary. American Education is only 'high quality' if one makes use of all the resources and making use of the resources is inseparable from building relationships with Americans. You don't learn much by just sitting in the lecture, you learn by meeting personally with he lecturer, discussing your ideas, involving yourself with research where you inevitably need to work harmoniously with others. How do you have a good discussion about politics and other social issue without getting to know American culture and how there viewpoints are shaped? By relying on sociology and anthropology textbooks about America? No one gets to use any state of the art equipment unless you're close to a professor. Otherwise you're just using normal equipment that can be found everywhere else. Google doesn't come to campus to give people a project they can do at home on their couch, they hold events, competitions and internships where you'll really need to interact and make friends with the people around you, who are mostly going to be Americans. The culture part is inseparable.

spunkberry may be harsh sometimes, but she's not poking "Malaysian groups", her point is going there and setting up a closed Malaysian village is a not something desirable. There's nothing so special about American culture, it's just their culture, something different, a different way of life people ascribe themselves too. A way of life that shapes their perspective of the world. A way of life that has produced a great nation. Do you think all their achievements today came from simply being in a land that became to be known as America? Their culture did produce some grad dreams and their culture pushed them into making those dreams a reality. That success made them what they are today. It's ingrained into their culture. There's good and bad to it, some with out Malaysian culture. Knowledge can be found in any book, but culture is what pushes the society forward. In business all depend on the culture of the company to keep its employees as a cohesive whole. We can stop being to grand and mighty about our culture. It has it good and bad. It has brought it alot of peace and very much less violence compared to many places in the world. But our economy can do much better, we can become a stronger political power and out culture is lacking in those drives. So we learn and bring back difference aspect of foreign culture that is beneficial to the field we are in. Alone it's a very small piece, but a whole of all the Malaysia who study overseas and bring back their small bit, it can create a big effect. Look at Japan, from being a totally closed country, it open up to various foreign culture that it saw was beneficial to them and adapted they way of life. Yet they still remain distinctively Japanese. We don't have to lose out identity by assimilating with Americans for a few years. Being friends with all the Malaysians you can find on campus is a totally different thing with forming a closed group with only Malaysia and being so timid about venturing out. There's a difference between having 100 best friends who are Malaysian and having only 100 friends who are all Malaysia. It's not about putting whites or blacks about anyone, it's about including them in our circle of friends.

If the greatness of American education is attending lectures, taking test and staining some bacteria red and basking in the great things one's university has but never participated in, then it's simply no different from reading a textbook quietly in one's room. Does listening to a Harvard professor and then using the latest DNA spectrometry machine automatically make a person do great things in the future?
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post Apr 24 2011, 04:31 AM

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QUOTE(latias93 @ Apr 24 2011, 03:27 AM)
Guys,I have something to ask. Can the F-1 Student Visa be used to enter multiple schools? I'm rather confused about it. I'm about to receive my I-20 form from Academy of Art University (AAU). What I want to know is, when I get interviewed at the US Embassy to apply for the Student Visa, will the Student Visa be valid only for AAU?

My application for San Diego State University (SDSU) will take a long time to process and I intend to go there and ditch AAU should I get accepted into that school. If I already have a F-1 Student Visa through an I-20 which states my course in AAU, do I have to apply for another F-1 Student Visa?

I'm unclear about this, so I would appreciate it if anyone could clarify this matter for me. I'd rather apply for an F-1 Visa for AAU first so as to not waste time. I don't intend to wait so long for SDSU to reply me (they're holding my application at the moment as my transcripts arrived late) and I don't even know for sure where I'll be accepted in or not.
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The VISA is given to you because your sponsored (I don't mean financially) by the school to stay in the US to study. In some sense, the school assumes some responsibility in letting the government know whether or not you're a person suited to be allowed to stay in the US for a long period of time.

Hence, when you apply for your VISA using an I-20 issued by AAU, it means you're applying for the US government to let you stay in US to study at AAU and you're backing up your application with the I-20 from AAU.

If you get into SDSU, then you will need an I-20 issued by SDSU. I believe you do not need to reapply for a VISA but there is some paperwork you will need to do. I also think there is some rules concerning studying in a another college(usually a community college) over summer for credits to transfer over to your 'main' school.

The VISA and Immigration page has info on this for SURE because I was thinking about a similar thing about half a year ago but I just don't know the details. And if there is anything left unclear, email/phone them. Immigration law is very important to be adhered to. Not understanding it isn't an excuse!
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post Apr 26 2011, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(latias93 @ Apr 26 2011, 12:31 AM)
Alright, thanks to everyone for your elaborate and insightful responses! I really appreciate that. I guess I'll just wait for a little while longer until SDSU finally got around to replying me (and accepting me into their school, for that matter). Also, are you guys sure that the visa processing takes only 1 week? I've always thought it took about.. more than a month? Care to share a little more detail, please? smile.gif
Ha.. that'll be the last resort. But thanks anyway!
I would suppose so. :/
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Actually it can take less than a week. Once you've completed all the paperwork and paid the fees in advance, you just need to schedule an appointment for the interview. Scheduling is as simple as clicking on a day that isn't full in your web browser. You'll have your interview early in the morning and you'll know the result on the spot. Your VISA will be ready the next business day and can be collected at WISMA MCA. However, what can happen is that you forget to do something and your information isn't complete and you are asked to come back again. Another that can happen is you're a male and you get chosen by random for the 1 month extended screening where they will research your background first and only issue you the VISA after 1 month even though you've already been approved. Hence, applying for VISA last minute is a big no-no.

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post Apr 28 2011, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE(latias93 @ Apr 28 2011, 12:27 AM)
Looks like I won't be seeing myself as a certified American (on paper) until at least 10 years or so from now!

If I'm not mistaken, F-1 visa holders are required to return to their home country within 60 days upon graduation. Unless, of course, I pursue a graduate program or I get approved for OPT. It seems that in the game design/animation industry (which I'm pursuing), there are more employment options from startup companies than big companies (which, as you pointed out, is much more difficult to get). Hopefully the job market clears by the time I graduate. LOL!
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If you;re in a research university, it's not hard to do research as your OPT.
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post Jun 30 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(strategist @ Jun 25 2011, 03:59 PM)
Is it a must to take SAT if I want to apply to US while holding A-Levels as my qualification?
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No, some universities do not require SAT/ACT/whatever standardized test scores. You have to check with the universities you are applying to.


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QUOTE(latias93 @ Jun 6 2011, 04:21 PM)
Hey guys, my F-1 visa has been approved. I've received an email from USTravelDocs saying that "Your Document is ready for pickup.".

Do I have to pick it up at the embassy, or at the Aramex courier office? (Where the Embassy instructed me to drop off my passport)

Or will they courier it back to my home?

I'm a little unsure as "Your Document is ready for pickup." is all they wrote in the email. A little uncertainty.. would appreciate it if you guys would help me clear this up.

Edit: Welp, just found out the answer on http://www.ustraveldocs.com/my/my-niv-passporttrack.asp . But I still think that "Your Document is ready for pickup." is a little too shady a description considering that they're dealing with important documents here..
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Huh? The person who tells you your visa is ready is the officer at the US embassy when you go for the interview. He will say you got the visa and you can pick it up at Wisma MCA the following day. the only expception if you are placed under a 30 day security clearance, which means you get to pick it up 30 days later.


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QUOTE(maru&box @ May 3 2011, 07:42 AM)
I was wondering if anybody had experience with big job+internship searching sites based in the US like monster.com? Any feedback on how effective it is in reaching out to people?Is this popular in m'sia too?

The idea is that:
Employers basically can actively search you up and you can also actively search them up as well for jobs,internships and even part time work.I'm more used to the idea of sites just gathering job postings into a huge database.Apparently any employer in the world can look you up if you let them.

I'm a little skeptical about this since the idea is still relatively "new" to me since I've never heard of anybody landing a job or internship among my friends this way(not yet at least) where the employer actually hired you from a websearch.

I just started by putting up my resume.I'm going to try and strengthen my profile over the coming weeks before I try mass applying for jobs smile.gif .
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Even freshman in my university can get internships. I don't think you need anything grand on your resume. And honestly, why wait for people to contact you. Even if the site works, can't you just apply for what you want?

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post Jul 4 2011, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(latias93 @ Jul 3 2011, 02:46 PM)
So many of us leaving for the States this fall! I'll be leaving on the sixth of August, what about the rest of you?

I have a little question to ask those of you who are currently studying in the States - what do you guys do during the summer break? I'm not sure wether to return to Malaysia for a couple of months or to stay there. Any advice? Internships, building my portfolio, San Diego Comic Con 2012, whatever, share some ideas on how to spend my summer next year! biggrin.gif
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I'd love to give suggestions, but don't think too much now la. You have 8 months of school and you will meet many people during that period of time. You'll probably get involved in some activities too. Those experiences will shape what you want to do for the summer. Most people begin planning their summer around late February.
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post Jul 8 2011, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(chew1991 @ Jul 7 2011, 11:53 PM)
ADTP is simple. You do your freshman & Sophomore year ( General years ) here in Malaysia, earn the credits , transfer to US so you do less years in US to graduate.
Check usnews for engineering rankings. I use it most of the time although its a lil biased towards American Us.
Since ADP covers the general years, the specific major offered depends on the unis in US rather than the one here. you can get into engineering and still consider whether to choose electrical, aerospace, chemical etc etc etc until you start applying for the US unis in your second year here.
PTPTN loan normally covers the second year only.
I20, Visa, Uni contacts, Sevis receipt, housing contract, health insurance ( if you have ), air tickets, passport, past transcripts, results and certs, birth cert. Anything else to add on?

You bring less cash on hand, when you're there , open a bank account ( you need some money to open if im nt mistaken ) and ask your parents to transfer the money to your account via wire. saves the trouble.

Which U are you going to?
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Err, birth cert and certificates don't need la I think. I never brought them over also. If you really want a copy of your birth cert and a copy of your most important certificates is sufficient.

For cash I would say 400 is more than enough. Spread it over your body and bags so you won't be screwed if you are unlucky enough to get mugged. Keep a copy of your passport and visa in each place you keep the cash. Those two are the msot important things no matter what.
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post Jul 9 2011, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(fion@gem @ Jul 8 2011, 11:03 PM)
Is it easy to open a bank account in the States ? Im quite worried. Since im going there all by myself lol.

Im going to City Tech in NY. smile.gif Cheaper fees and my aunt stays nearby the campus.
you mean 400usd ? My mom was way too worried, she said bring she will exchange USD to traveller's cheque and let me bring it over to US. :/
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Yup I mean 400 dollars. And of course, you can bring as much traveler's checks as you want, but I don't because they are expensive. If you've the money northing's stopping you from buying the luxury of loading your self up with cash, credit card or traveller's checks.

Opening a back account is very simple. Just bring your documents and go to the bank. You'll get your account and some checks in less than an hour. I think I just needed my passport and student ID. The first account I opened before I even got my student ID. Wiring money over(TT) is very simple. They will surely give you an infromation sheet when you sign up and even if your parent's know nuts about banking, you can jsut email the sheet over and let the bank staff here read it and get all the necessary information. The money shouldn't take more than 5 business day's to arrive.

I pay my rental deposit and 1st month's rent before I fly over. You can mail the check over even if this is your first time flying to the states. My school fees aren't due until the end of September. I buy books used on Amazon after I've determined what books my professor actually used. I assume your bedroom is furnished.

400 can easily pay for your taxi(let's say so cham la it cost 100), food for 10 days and a microwave oven. And please make sure you settle your health insurance before you arrive or the very minute the offices open upon landing.
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post Aug 18 2011, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(latias93 @ Aug 17 2011, 08:13 AM)
How is everyone doing?

I've just set up an account with Wells Fargo. Pretty simple process, just like mumeichan described.

Also, I just realized that most things, if not all, need SSN to sign up for - such as store membership cards, etc. It's definitely not fun not being able to receive additional discounts!

Does anyone know ANY major brands/retail outlets/ANYTHING that doesn't require a SSN to sign up? laugh.gif
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Hardly. The reason they want a SSN is because from your SSN, they can lookup your income and credit history. If you have no SSN, you wouldn't have a credit history anyway because no bank will issue you a credit card. Why, because you need a SSN to work or something like that.
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post Aug 28 2011, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(k-bkeat @ Aug 27 2011, 10:42 PM)
wow. the tax are that heavy?
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In total I get taxed 27% for my part time earnings.
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post Jun 1 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(rokai88 @ May 30 2012, 01:46 PM)
hi spunkberry, any opinions on chances of working in states after graduating? from your experience.
with the current recession should i still keep up hope?
what can we do to boost our chances?

thanks! rclxms.gif
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Generally it's very low. I don't think the recession has that big of an impact on the the employment of foreigners because the employers of foreigners are normally very big companies and there is an annual cap on the number of work visas that will be given out by the government. So really, the limit is being placed by the visa cap even with the bad economy (which isn't very bad anyway)
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post Jun 10 2012, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(chinti @ Jun 10 2012, 02:31 PM)
MPW r not accepted every where in the world except malaysia...lol~ i nv took MPW although they say must take, waste time, waste money, waste energy~
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Lol no. I got credit for that.


Added on July 1, 2012, 8:34 amSo who is coming to the US this Fall?

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post Jul 6 2012, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(rokai88 @ Jul 5 2012, 09:59 PM)
me!  rclxms.gif
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where are you going to?
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post Jul 6 2012, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(rokai88 @ Jul 6 2012, 02:40 AM)
carnegie mellon. you already in the us i assume. which uni?
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post Jul 7 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(lost_destiny @ Jul 7 2012, 07:29 AM)
I have this thought.
"If I were to study in the states, either Ivy League or go home"

Is it worth studying at whatever university you're studying now? Is it because of the experience of studying in the US or whether the university  you are at is actually really good/better than those in Malaysia?

Not that I am against studying overseas though, just that I am sceptical of universities that I've never heard of.
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It's up to you what standard you want. If you've already set your mind to IVY or not, then regardless of what other people's experiences are, you're probably not gonna be very satisfied.

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