QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 10 2011, 01:54 AM)
I'll be heading to the states next year, hopefully if i pass my pointer i will
I don't think its fair to look down on those who stick to their own race, although it's not the best of what's overseas experience supposed to be, but not everyone is able to mingle around easily. language barriers, cultural barriers, many factors. What should be done is to help them out maybe? Instead of scorning them, which would make it worse.
Anyway, im hoping to apply to University of Washington. very keeeen on it
Eee, while I'm not disgusted at Malaysian who just stick to Malaysian, I know for sure that the bolded part is a very lame excuse. It's in fact an excuse born when politicians, psychological and sociological on the 20th century try to give a scientific sounding terms or explanation for every small problem.I don't think its fair to look down on those who stick to their own race, although it's not the best of what's overseas experience supposed to be, but not everyone is able to mingle around easily. language barriers, cultural barriers, many factors. What should be done is to help them out maybe? Instead of scorning them, which would make it worse.
Anyway, im hoping to apply to University of Washington. very keeeen on it
In reality, while cultural and language barriers do exist, I do not think it's anything like a 'barrier'. It's at the most a short period of uneasiness, unless you set it as a barrier in your mind. In Malaysia, there is a huge cultural difference between many races and in many areas, Indians and Chinese do not speak the same kind of Malay that Malays use to speak among themselves. I mean the slang words and such. While we may not be very integrated, I don't think anyone see it as a big problem to make friends with or talk to members or other races, or feel particularly uncomfortable if one is invited to a cultural festival or another race. So really it isn't much harder to mix with whites or blacks.
Added on April 10, 2011, 10:40 am
QUOTE(defectivelasagna @ Apr 10 2011, 10:13 AM)
Cultureshock is a very real and alive phenomenon, even if in malaysia you speak a competent level of english, it doesn't mean you can click culturally, most malaysians don't have that strong command of english to the point of confidence. Why is it that you say that they aren't accepting of others? Could it be that they just don't know HOW to interact? and so they keep quiet and just do what they know they can do? Isn't it a defense mechanism? to be with the familiar? Like i said, of course it'd be great to get out of your comfort zone, especially in the US. But for those who do have a problem, looking down on them and shunning them is only gonna make it worse. As to studying overseas, some people value the education as it is, an education, just a degree. So they don't feel the need to have all the social interaction for them to feel that it's worthwhile eventhough i disagree with that.
Anyway, back on topic. I know that TOEFL is the main english proficiency test for the US, could IELTS serve as a substitute? my sponsors are only willing to pay for IELTS unfortunately.
Added on April 10, 2011, 10:15 am
Natalie Portman went to Yale, Emma Watson went to Brown. dunno who else lol
Honestly I haven't really met anyone who has been culture-"shocked". And you don't need to speak English competently to be able to communicate with them. Sometimes I don't get half the things a black person is speaking is they use ebonics to the full. There are alot of people who are very poor at English and mingle around very well. There are alot alot of people who speak good English by have an accent. Alot of white have a hard time understanding what I say if I talk too fast cause my accent sounds weird to them. Anyway, back on topic. I know that TOEFL is the main english proficiency test for the US, could IELTS serve as a substitute? my sponsors are only willing to pay for IELTS unfortunately.
Added on April 10, 2011, 10:15 am
Natalie Portman went to Yale, Emma Watson went to Brown. dunno who else lol
And erm, some colleges do accept IELTS, most don't. Of course you should email your college. And I don't think it's too hard to persuade your sponsor to pay for your TOEFL.
This post has been edited by mumeichan: Apr 10 2011, 10:40 AM
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