[quote=LesAffreux,Oct 7 2014, 12:41 PM]
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Thank you so much for your info

I wonder if i need to study my undergraduate degree in us if i want to study law there?

law is my first choice but i still thinking whether to study in business, invesment or law

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Technically you could still apply for a J.D Program with an undergraduate that isn't from the States. Most schools would ask you to submit your transcripts to the LSAC Credential Assembly Service to be evaluated. I'm not sure how it's gonna affect your application, but generally law schools really take into consideration your GPA and your scores on the LSAT.

Not to be a downer, but I would really recommend taking law somewhere other than the US. Just because (if I'm not mistaken) you can't practice law in Malaysia if you get your J.D in the States. I do not think Malaysia recognizes the J.D.

Also, as a previous poster said, it's incredibly hard to get residency in the States. Also, the amount of lawyers in the States is already staggering and finding employment (especially without residency) would be very, very, very difficult.

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I heard that using an overseas degree to apply for a US JD is very very hard, because of its difference with the rest of the world.

Yeah, he is right, if you intend to come back to Malaysia, don't go to the US, unless you an secure a job here or something like that.

Hmm, not necessarily hard everywhere @LesAffreux, the US is vast and there is opportunity if you find it, normally, for competitive jobs, the more unpopular states should have sufficient demand for lawyers, states like most of the midwest, North Dakota (booming like crazy right now), or Utah (really stable) should be alright. The states with the most competition are always the coasts. Although the Gulf Coast states like Texas is booming, so you might be fine there too.

Bro...an interesting question to ask.. Do you think the world financial and oil market is going for a big crash? Oil prices now has fallen to a level that will severely threatened the shale oil industry. Once the oil market crashes, it will send shockwaves throughout the world.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/et-now...ow/44127958.cms

Financial markets are hard to say and they always are. Nobody ever realizes its a bubble until it pops.
Oil on the other hand, so far it has been trading downwards of $90 a barrel, and it might reach around $80-$85 some time in the future. Might. But it is unlikely that it will crash to like $20 because no matter how bad the economy is, they still need oil to power through recoveries and soft patches. Oil is only a bit more predictable than financial markets, eg: stocks, bonds. This is because macro events in the world that are obvious harm to oil prices: more production, an oil producing country cutting production, sanctions and whatnot, are big and sometimes, only sometimes, predictable.

When the oil markets crash, it will not be necessarily bad for a countries. Countries that have oil deficits would definitely reap the rewards. Oil exporting countries of course, would bear the brunt of the collapse. I am not sure if the Malaysian budget has a large percentage tied to oil wealth, but it will certainly do some extent of damage. All in all, good for consumers, bad for oil governments.

The thing is if the oil market crash, so does American economy, which is riding on a shale boom fueled by high oil prices. Hence, North Dakota may be booming explosively now, but might be on the verge of collapse, if oil price hits new low. the shale boom took place only because oil prices was high enough.

That is not possible. The American economy is not dependant in oil investments or oil exports in any way. It is not Saudi Arabia that everything they do is directly tied to oil. Sure it will have some form of damage including lower exports, lesser oil investments due to low price, but at the end of the day, consumer spending makes up 70% of the economy, and what more is better than lesser spending on gas? High oil prices are for oil governments to enjoy, not the rest of us.

Plus, the cost of drilling would need about $80 a barrel oil to support it, it is hard to say that oil will crash that far. Since depressed oil prices are not because of horrible things happening, like the middle east suddenly exploding or something like that, it should be better for consumers for an amount of time. When I mean an amount of time, it means that low oil prices will not stay forever, low oil prices would choke supply, since nobody has the incentive to increase production, there won't be enough oil to sell to the world, and when demand outpaces supply, prices will raise once again. Simple supply and demand theory right there.

Although I can't say for sure what will happen if oil prices fall to deep, but the US has its own oil trading platform that is the WTI, which is lower than the international one we are following, the Brent. WTI: $90.24 Brent: $92.45
Since they are not allowed to export crude oil, I expect most of the damage will be to the rest of the world.

Not that I want to, lol, but I can't. Permanent residents can only sponsor spouse and immediate family under 21.

This post has been edited by spunkberry: Oct 7 2014, 11:14 PM

Yeah I know, just trying my luck

That's what I thought as well, until I did some calculations based on the statistics.

There is a scaled percentage of winning, which pretty much puts every participant from an eligible country at a 0.X to 1.X% chance of winning. Malaysia has roughly 6000-7000 applicants a year (excluding dependents) and only 70-80 might win. Based on the previous year trends, the number of Malaysians winning each year seems to be going down. Meanwhile, in the 2013 lottery, 6029 Iranians won the lottery out of 369,118 Iranian applicants. That is 1.6%. I hope this gives you the general idea of what is going on.

Countries that have had over 50,000 selected entrants in the past 5 years are not eligible to apply for the DV lottery. These countries are called "high admission countries", and as you could probably guess, such countries include Mainland China, Bangladesh, India, Philippines, and Nigeria.

Mind sharing how you got your permanent residency? And I'm guessing you're from the East Coast based on your post time, unless you're an early riser.. haha. Greetings from the Lone Star State!

Going to retake it after SPM. Aiming for a 2250 and above so I can safely apply for any of the UCs. But I don't know what I want to do yet.

EWWW TEXAS!
I'm actually in the Midwest and run on Central Time.

fuiyoh spunk...are you from one of the UTs?
Mister Lee, good point you have there! I was having this thought provoking statement running through my mind, until your comments come into the picture, and the aha moment came. Yes, depressed oil price won't stay long, as production ceased, consumer will start picking up due to cheaper prices, hence, the whole demand supply cycle will move on the uptick again , and when it happens, the oil price will spike again.

And yes, mind telling me why you hated math so much? :S haha...looks like American Govt loves STEM people, if you don't mind taking courses like mathematical finance, high chance you can get a job.

Oh, we're in the same time zone then! I'm still trying to get adjusted to being two time zones away from my girlfriend, as I just moved from California. Texas isn't actually that bad.. the gas here is a whole dollar cheaper than in Los Angeles, the Tex-Mex food is awesome, and the Southern hospitality is hard to beat! Now, as for the Midwest.. well, it's actually not too bad. I hated Nebraska though.

You probably read the conversations above wrong, actually it is me who is "from one of the UTs". Haha. Unless spunkberry is a former Longhorn. Or Roadrunner. Or <insert mascot of other UT campuses>.

Well, it is a lottery at the end and it is not supposed to be won easily. But Iran is a country in dire need of aid, I wouldn't be surprised that they would have a better chance of winning. And 369,118 quite a lot for a country that doesn't like the US all that well.

I imagined that there would be quite a lot of high admission countries around the world...

Wow you've done it before? How is it?

I am now forced to aim higher since yesterday I went on college hunting and realized I wanted even better schools. And also, I'm gonna sound naive and all but I got attracted by Princeton, but its admission rate is like 7.3%, so I'll need to aim like about your score or higher Why do I put pressure to myself

This post has been edited by MisterLee: Oct 8 2014, 05:04 PM

Wow! Where are you in Texas? Mind sharing some experiences?

Texas is pretty cool! Ignore the stereotypes of conservativeness please! Austin is the liberal oasis in Texas. And its job market is significantly better than California, unless you're in the Bay Area or Silicon Valley.

Well you have to know that the American economy is the most dynamic and the most sophisticated in the world, it is not so easy that a finger push would collapse the whole economy. I would take a lot to make them stumble even, like the 08-09 financial crisis and so on.

Are you asking me? Well, I never really liked math from the start, I mean I can do it if I want to, I think I am just discouraged. I can get high scores if I am willing to study for it, but so far that hasn't happened yet.

The US government loves STEM people, most of the international students receiving green cards are people who work in the STEM field, so if you are, you're definitely in advantage. Unlike me, I'm going for Finance and then work in Investment Banking. But I might be able to convince my employer by then

Can anyone tell me how much of a drag a bad high school report will be in application? Because my high school grades are really in critical condition.

I've been spoiled by the Midwest. Everywhere else I go within the US, I feel has attitude problems. The Southern hospitality I feel is a bit of a farce but it's nice when you remove my cynicism lol. The Midwest is actually renowned for the laidback, easy-going nature of its people... we just have a bit too much corn around

I am not from any of the UTs, but UT Austin was my second choice uni, and because of the common app, I was also going to apply to A&M. What are you? Longhorn?

Can't ignore it all the time. lol.

This post has been edited by spunkberry: Oct 8 2014, 11:00 PM