so what if a person who pretends to be God? like satan enter into a church and behaves like a innocent child then influence the whole church? he can denies God internally but he can act to love God externally.

and ya a question as a food for thought:

does God prefers a man who dont know God well but preach and talk about God or a man who knows God very well but keep all to itself?

It's easy. Just measure his/her sincerity index.

Those who knows God well understood that he/she will eventually have to tell someone, although not precisely to everyone, especially those who are not ready to accept the truth.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Mar 18 2012, 06:16 PM

LOL is there anyway to measure? i believe satan is more capable than a hypocrite. an usually a hypocrite can do wonders, i'm sure you had met one.

well, on the other side, had you see majority of christians who knows God very well and spread the gospel at the same time? i just curious to know which God prefers

if they want ppl come to know Christ, they definitely will share the gospel

i wonder, why ppl always make a claimed that were possess by satan but nver by an angel

coz satan wanna attack your belief towards God but not apply to Angel

It is in my heart's desire that I rather ALL of you in here come to know Jesus personally and be on fire with the right passion for God and the gospel.
Thanks for the encouragement but this is not about me, it's about you, for you and to build you up.

The Bible is very clear on nature of Satan. It has always been Anti God and All the things of God.
There is no truth in him.



Once you understand his nature, you will recognise immediately if the person's genuine for God or not. It can be witness by his speech and his actions. The list of actions which is for God is listed below.



If by the virtue of what you said that he produce the fruits above, he can pretend to deny God but he is actually for God.


It's difficult for a Man who doesn't know about God to preach on the things of God. It's like saying you want to do engineering work but you don't know anything about engineering. And to really understand engineering, understanding in theory is not enough, you got to get into the experience and practical side of it to really master it.

If A Man who knows about God very well, He will also know that One of God's commission is to spread the gospel of Jesus Salvation. If He keeps to himself, then He does not know God well indeed.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Mar 18 2012, 10:10 PM

Angels do not possessed people.
Angels are ministering spirit, servants of God.

Do you not know how to tell between what that is right, and what that is wrong? If you cannot, you are not ready for the truth. Learn how to differentiate right and wrong, and then your answer will be more satisfying that you no longer have a doubt to it.



Should you have two children, when one behaves accordingly, and the other does not, whom will you prefer? Should you choose like how a typical man will choose, you are also not ready for the truth.

You certainly have forgotten to make use of parables, or at least the understanding the need for parables to those who merely hears, and to those who actually listens. And should the parables failed them, it will be up to how bright the illumination of God shines so that they may see, for they have chosen not to listen. And finally will be the self-less act, which will finally save them, hence of how the work is finally complete, in the fashion of Him whom have shown us by example.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Mar 19 2012, 02:56 AM

it is not right to send someone to hell just because he has no faith in whatever god. right and wrong is subjective and christianity has no monopoly over what is called the truth. truth to u may not be truth to others. just saying

First you say it is not "right" to send someone to hell, then you say that it is subjective. You shoot yourself in the foot - Christians can just say that what is "wrong" for you is "right" for God.

granted that's your opinion about christianity and i think lots of ppl out there think the same way as well. That's why we do not force you into Christianity, but let you yourself to see His work and His power in your life and then be convinced that He exists and then accept Him in your own accord. We are merely the medium where you can reach to if you ever needed more information about this God we believe in.

follow which God bro? Islam God is just as "credible"

that's exactly what i mean, what is wrong to me is right to you guys. i have no arguments there, just pointing out what's obvious to me and the irony. if u insist that i shot myself on the foot, so be it.

This post has been edited by hotjake: Mar 19 2012, 10:42 AM

one's place in heaven or hell is subjective/dependent on whether he believes in the christian god and whatnot, no? the fact there r people who have been a good human being all their lives without a faith in the christian god plays no role in His "judgement". oh the irony of an all-loving god... which comes with a condition

This post has been edited by hotjake: Mar 19 2012, 10:49 AM

XD Now that is the reality of eating the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Mankind has become complicated. Relative morality

Hmmm ... I think you had the wrong assumption that God is only the all-loving God. He is also a righteous One. His love does not override His righteousness.

His love doesn't stop Him from allowing people who do not believe him to end up in hell, a place a "righteous" God created as a place of punishment/righteous retribution. yep, sounds righteous.

This post has been edited by hotjake: Mar 19 2012, 10:52 AM

This thread not the right place to hold this discussion/argument, should go to RWI for that. But anyway, in a nutshell - God's righteousness demands that Sin be punished. By His Love he sent his Son to take our sins and die in our place. Therefore we are able to go to Heaven because our Sin has already been punished on the cross.

happy4ever you christian meh, saw your thread you been laying around a couple of times. how you wanna hold this as a TS?