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paogiv3r
post Mar 21 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 19 2012, 08:31 PM)
Nobody is perfect brother.

But God is Big enough to love everyone, even sinners.

H4E will come back to repentance.  icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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Bullshiet, she hypocrite, spreading how she enjoyed diks in aussie, etc etc, u search back trade u can find.
Im not here to judge but she's might be looking for virgin diks?
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 21 2012, 10:24 AM)
lol, God is not forever alone. Who created that assumption?  biggrin.gif
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my interpretation from the bible smile.gif but of coz now he's no longer foreveralone, he's got back his Son and he has you all to shower him love with. see the past tense in my earlier statement

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post Mar 21 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 21 2012, 10:22 AM)


God did say repent from all Sin. That alone speaks to do good and avoid evil.
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This is opposite from wat pehkay says. Earlier in thispost he say god ant us neither do good nor evil

You claim got says do good and not evil.

Proven that what i said all is based on your guys imagination what god says.

Stand in front agung and respect becos I can see agung is there. U show me a drawing of jesus and u expect me say jesus is there? Plz la..

Also plz discuss among yourselves and come to conclusion before trying to preach the word of god. One guy say like this another say like dat
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(paogiv3r @ Mar 21 2012, 10:25 AM)
Bullshiet, she hypocrite, spreading how she enjoyed diks in aussie, etc etc, u search back trade u can find.
Im not here to judge but she's might be looking for virgin diks?
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ROFL!!!!!! dear bro, H4E is a guy and he's trolling. Please forgive that boy. He crave attention, what to do? tongue.gif laugh.gif


QUOTE(hotjake @ Mar 21 2012, 10:27 AM)
my interpretation from the bible  smile.gif
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Hi Jake,

would appreciate if you can say which scripture that gave you your interpretation.
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 21 2012, 10:28 AM)
This is opposite from wat pehkay says. Earlier in thispost he say god ant us neither do good nor evil

You claim got says do good and not evil.

Proven that what i said all is based on your guys imagination what god says.

Stand in front agung and respect becos I can see agung is there. U show me a drawing of jesus and u expect me say jesus is there? Plz la..

Also plz discuss among yourselves and come to conclusion before trying to preach the word of god. One guy say like this another say like dat
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i saw God of Prosperity statue thar, i pray pray for luck i think he was there... sort of
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 21 2012, 10:29 AM)
ROFL!!!!!! dear bro, H4E is a guy and he's trolling. Please forgive that boy. He crave attention, what to do?  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
Hi Jake,

would appreciate if you can say which scripture that gave you your interpretation.
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go back to what i wrote, it's as legit as any of your interpretation. for one, it is not a borrowed/shared interpretation
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Mar 21 2012, 10:12 AM)
think of it like this, God was the original Foreveralone guy who is perfect, that he is complete in every way. Before God created the universe there was nothing - no sun, no earth, no people, no good or evil, no pain - nothing but God who was, according to Christians, perfect. So if God was perfect and nothing but perfection existed, what motivated God to create the universe and thus bring imperfection into being? Was it because he was bored and wanted something to do? Was it because he was lonely and wanted someone to pray to him?

God created everything because of his love of man. this doesn't cut it for me, God could not love humans before he created them any more than a woman could love her children before she had conceived them. God's need to create indicates that he was dissatisfied with the fact that there were only one foreveralone around. oh and then there's this argument that He created spontaneously and without need or desire. However this would mean that the whole universe came into being without purpose or forethought? anyways, He created us, He made the rules of what is right and what is wrong. Our perception of right and wrong does not measure up to His. It is not for us to judge, just accept lo... haiz...
just my opinion. can shoot me, no problem
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Haha ... you want to hear more awesome things ....

The Bible is a romance. rclxub.gif It may sound secular and unreligious. However, if you have entered into the deep thought of the Bible, you will realize that the Bible is a romance, in the most pure and the most holy sense, of a universal couple.

1. God in Christ as the Bridegroom

The male of this couple is God Himself. Although He is a divine Person, He desires to be the male of this universal couple. This very God, after a long process, has resulted in Christ as the Bridegroom.

2. God’s Redeemed People as the Bride

The female of this couple is a corporate human being, God’s redeemed people, including all the saints of the Old Testament and the New Testament. After a long process this corporate person results in the New Jerusalem as the Bride.

3. This Romance in the Old Testament

This holy romance is repeatedly revealed throughout the Old Testament.

a. The Story of a Marriage

Immediately after the record of God’s creation, we find the story of a marriage (Gen. 2:21-25). In this marriage Adam is the type of Christ as the husband, and Eve is the type of the church as the wife. In Ephesians 5 we see the couple typified by Adam and Eve—Christ and the church. The type of Adam and Eve reveals that the persons of this universal couple must be of the same source. God created one person, Adam, and out from this person a wife came. Eve was not created separately by God; she came out of Adam. Eve was made out of a rib, a piece of bone, that came from Adam, indicating that both Adam and Eve proceeded out of the same source. In this universal couple the wife must come out of the husband. Likewise, the church must come out of Christ. The two persons of this couple must be of the same source. They also must be of one nature. Furthermore they must share one common life. Adam’s nature and life were also Eve’s. Eve had the same nature and life as Adam. The two persons of this couple were of one source, of one nature, and had the same one life. Without doubt, they also had one living. They lived together. Eve lived by Adam and with Adam, and Adam lived by Eve and with Eve.

This couple is the secret of the universe. The secret of the whole universe is that God and His chosen ones are to be one couple. Hallelujah! We, God’s chosen ones, and God are of one source, of one nature, and have one life. Now we also need to have one living. We are not living by ourselves or for ourselves; we are living with God and for God, and God is living with us and for us. Hallelujah!
b. God as the Husband and His People as the Wife

Several times in the Old Testament God referred to Himself as the Husband and to His people as His wife (Isa. 54:5; 62:5; Jer. 2:2; 3:1, 14; 31:32; Ezek. 16:8; 23:5; Hosea 2:7, 19). God was desirous of being a husband and of having His people as His wife. Many times the prophets spoke of God as the Husband and of His people as His wife. Humanly speaking, we always think of God in a religious way as the Almighty, feeling compelled to worship Him. But do you married brothers expect this from your wives? Suppose your wife thought of you as a big body, as a giant, approaching you adoringly, bowing herself, and kneeling down to worship you. What would you say? You would say, “Silly wife, I don’t need such a worshipper. I need a dear wife to embrace me and kiss me. If you will simply give me a little kiss, I will soar in the air.” Our God certainly is the Almighty God, and, as His creatures, we must worship Him. Many verses speak about worshipping God in this way. However, have you never read in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Hosea that God desires to be a husband? In ancient times God’s people built the temple and established a system of worship complete with priesthood and sacrifices. One day God intervened and spoke through Isaiah saying, “I am tired of this. I am weary with your sacrifices. I want you to love Me. I am your Husband, and you must be My wife. I want to have a marriage life. I am lonely. I need you. I need you, My chosen people, to be My wife.”

In one sense, when the Bible shows that God says "It is not good for man to be alone ... " ... it is actually saying that God was looking for a counterpart tongue.gif

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post Mar 21 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 21 2012, 10:28 AM)
This is opposite from wat pehkay says. Earlier in thispost he say god ant us neither do good nor evil

You claim got says do good and not evil.

Proven that what i said all is based on your guys imagination what god says.

Stand in front agung and respect becos I can see agung is there. U show me a drawing of jesus and u expect me say jesus is there? Plz la..

Also plz discuss among yourselves and come to conclusion before trying to preach the word of god. One guy say like this another say like dat
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Mar 21 2012, 10:30 AM)
i saw God of Prosperity statue thar, i pray pray for luck i think he was there... sort of
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What pehkey say is right, maybe his way of explanation is TLDR for you?


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post Mar 21 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Mar 21 2012, 10:31 AM)
go back to what i wrote, it's as legit as any of your interpretation. for one, it is not a borrowed/shared interpretation
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What you wrote points to your anger towards God, it didn't indicate that He's lonely.
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the reason i don want to quote is because later u guys ask me go RWI again

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post Mar 21 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 21 2012, 10:33 AM)
What pehkey say is right, maybe his way of explanation is TLDR for you?
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So u mean u r wrong? God doesnt want us do good?

Which statement in bible specific say that and is not from your imgination? Use your God 3:16 statement stuff also can
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Mar 21 2012, 10:35 AM)
the reason i don want to quite is because later u guys ask me go RWI again
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haha..go RWI for serious discussion plz
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 21 2012, 10:35 AM)
What you wrote points to your anger towards God, it didn't indicate that He's lonely.
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nah... i ain't angry. it's impossible for me to be genuinely angry towards anything/anyone fictional. it did indicate to me that He's lonely, a priori. no anger was involved in my reasoning.

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Mar 21 2012, 10:35 AM)
the reason i don want to quite is because later u guys ask me go RWI again
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I will try my best to accommodate you but let us be in control of this.

Truth to be told it's no point to get into any form of argument because it profits nobody.
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 21 2012, 10:28 AM)
This is opposite from wat pehkay says. Earlier in thispost he say god ant us neither do good nor evil

You claim got says do good and not evil.

Proven that what i said all is based on your guys imagination what god says.

Stand in front agung and respect becos I can see agung is there. U show me a drawing of jesus and u expect me say jesus is there? Plz la..

Also plz discuss among yourselves and come to conclusion before trying to preach the word of god. One guy say like this another say like dat
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Bro, this is not a good place to discuss this issues. Mainly because they're many Christians here from different denominations with different doctrine.Don't ever think "Christians" can be grouped. They're just way too many teaching that's out of the way of the real teaching.

Best way? Pick up the bible and read it up for yourself (NKJV or ESV is the better translation due to the way they translate it. KJV is usable but mostly in old english so a bit hard to understand). If you don't understand get a commentary.

Finding a pastor to guide you is the best way, that person then must be someone who expound from the scriptures itself, meaning no own thoughts put into the expounding.
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post Mar 21 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Mar 21 2012, 10:36 AM)
So u mean u r wrong? God doesnt want us do good?

Which statement in bible specific say that and is not from your imgination? Use your God 3:16 statement stuff also can
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Since when pehkay says that?

QUOTE(hotjake @ Mar 21 2012, 10:37 AM)
nah... i ain't angry. it's impossible for me to be genuinely angry towards anything/anyone fictional. it did indicate to me that He's lonely, a priori. no anger was involved in my reasoning.
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Whether your anger or dissatisfaction is genuine or of subconscious level it is still dissatisfaction non the less.

And I do appreciate your honesty. Nothing wrong IMO.
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Im not trolling, i just have an honest question here.

what is the position of saints in Christinianity?
do people consider saints as the median between them with God?

that is all, thank you
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 21 2012, 10:29 AM)
ROFL!!!!!! dear bro, H4E is a guy and he's trolling. Please forgive that boy. He crave attention, what to do?  tongue.gif  laugh.gif
Hi Jake,

would appreciate if you can say which scripture that gave you your interpretation.
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then even worst, he must be here snooping out for virgins cause most of christian girl preserve until marry
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QUOTE(JeggaSimple @ Mar 21 2012, 10:44 AM)
Im not trolling, i just have an honest question here.

what is the position of saints in Christinianity?
do people consider saints as the median between them with God?

that is all, thank you
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Catholicism acknowledges all beautified saints. different denominations interpret differently, but the essence is more often than not, the same

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Mar 21 2012, 10:41 AM)
Since when pehkay says that?
Whether your anger or dissatisfaction is genuine or of subconscious level it is still dissatisfaction non the less.

And I do appreciate your honesty. Nothing wrong IMO.
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Mar 21 2012, 09:36 AM)
Refer to my earlier post ... hmmm ... can't find it XD ... anymore I cut/paste

GOD DESIRING US NEITHER TO DO EVIL NOR TO DO GOOD

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