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post Apr 5 2012, 10:16 PM

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unknown warrior
post Apr 5 2012, 10:46 PM

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Very Rare for someone to die for a another.

Mahatma Gandhi led a revolutionary non violent protest against the British Occupation to liberate India. His legacy is remembered throughout history.
His death was revered nationwide. Being a good man that he is, his death like so many other famous good people of this world could do nothing to pay off the judgement against the sins of other. His death is unto his own and He'll definitely need to answer for his own life's action.

Every part of the world, whether it's tribal law or state law, justice demands that all crimes are vindicated through some form of punishment or sentences. On the extreme end, heavy crime required death sentences as punishment.

Criminals caught are trialled in judicial court of law and sentences are carried out by the judge in authority. These are but man created human laws which are imperfect and really depends on situations and changes as time goes.

God's justice is not of this world and the perfect requirement for punishment for sin is death. The Bible tells us that we have all sinned; we have all committed evil acts

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(Romans 3:10-18).

There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good, not even one.” “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.” “The poison of vipers is on their lips.”“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood; ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”



As a result of our sin, we deserve God's anger and judgement. The only just punishment for sins is an infinite punishment.

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(Romans 6:23)
For the wages of sin is death


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(Revelation 20:11-15).
The Dead Are Judged

Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.



We were given enough time to try for ourselves to atone our own sin through our own effort for salvation since Genesis. That's why the 10 commandments were given.

Thou Shall Not...
Thou Shall Not...

The best of Old testament had Moses, Elijah, Solomon, etc even David, a Man after God's own heart failed to adhere God's commandment perfectly.

Why then did God hand out the 10 commandments if He already knew? In his grace and patience, it's not for Him to know but so that we would know after so many generations, ages and time, we cannot.

God moves in the rhythm of time and in progression to reveal step by step a way out.

Understand that God is a God of Justice, whatever He says, he does not go back on his words to reverse out. When he decree the punishment for Sin is death, there must be punishment. no exception.

We all know about Jesus on the cross.

All of God's indignation, His Wrath fell upon Jesus, stroke after stroke of punishment were lashed out on his body. It was a ghastly sight, after watching The Passion of Christ, one can only imagine how is it like on that day, the torture tool used by the soldiers.

After reading the passage, Romans 5:6-8 below, now I truly understand and appreciate the undeserving act of His divine death.

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Romans 5:6-8

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us
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I pray to the Father that so should all of you. Remember his death which He died out of love for you during Good Friday and this coming Sunday Easter. And remember to rejoice in victory in His resurrection.

God Bless.

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SUSfghvbn
post Apr 6 2012, 11:43 AM

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Hey I got a question here
1 Corinthians 5:11
"But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering], or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. [No] you must not so much as eat with such a person."

So this chapter basically talks about paul telling the corinthian about sexual immorality. Then he goes saying the verse above.

But I thought we should eat with sinners but why is Paul saying otherwise ya ?

I know he's trying to tell corinthian not to talk or eat with another so called "Brother/Sister" who has commited adultery/incest
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post Apr 6 2012, 11:49 AM

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happy good friday everyone.
remember to attend any church tonight! smile.gif
God bless you, Jesus loves you smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(misspenguin @ Apr 6 2012, 11:49 AM)
happy good friday everyone.
remember to attend any church tonight! smile.gif
God bless you, Jesus loves you smile.gif
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i no church go..any church recomend?
SUSfghvbn
post Apr 6 2012, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Apr 6 2012, 11:53 AM)
i no church go..any church recomend?
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misspenguin
post Apr 6 2012, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Apr 6 2012, 11:53 AM)
i no church go..any church recomend?
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hmm. im sure there is a church nearby your house.
or ask your friend bring along? you may feel more comfortable with friends smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2012, 11:57 AM

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i dono anyone thr..go thr alone so kolian..

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post Apr 6 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Apr 6 2012, 11:57 AM)
i dono anyone thr..go thr alone so kolian..
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any of your friends christian go church one?
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post Apr 6 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:05 PM)
I know. But can a Christian marry a non believer?(I know yes u can, but it is encouraged by the religion?) What if she/he does. Will he/she be subjected to scorn or treated as a traitor to the religion? That's all i want to know.
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in Christianity, you are freely to choose which side you wanted to be... we cannot force you and this is your decisions and choices... but the end result you must bare with what you had chosen...

Christians only able to encourage you to stay in your faith. Because they know, when you away from God, you life will be miserable when you can't foreseen your future..

religion is not a matter, what matter is the relationship yourself and God...
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Apr 6 2012, 12:07 PM)
in Christianity, you are freely to choose which side you wanted to be... we cannot force you and this is your decisions and choices... but the end result you must bare with what you had chosen...

Christians only able to encourage you to stay in your faith. Because they know, when you away from God, you life will be miserable when you can't foreseen your future..

religion is not a matter, what matter is the relationship yourself and God...
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1 Corinthian 7:

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace.16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
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QUOTE(misspenguin @ Apr 6 2012, 12:00 PM)
any of your friends christian go church one?
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some no more go church..some oversea..
QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 6 2012, 12:10 PM)
1 Corinthian 7:

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace.16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
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tak faham la..can elaborate further?
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post Apr 6 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 6 2012, 11:43 AM)
Hey I got a question here
1 Corinthians 5:11
"But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering], or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. [No] you must not so much as eat with such a person."

So this chapter basically talks about paul telling the corinthian about sexual immorality. Then he goes saying the verse above.

But I thought we should eat with sinners but why is Paul saying otherwise ya ?

I know he's trying to tell corinthian not to talk or eat with another so called "Brother/Sister" who has commited adultery/incest
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The word, Not to associate means not to be connected in brotherhood friendship sense because it involves spiritual oneness.
Sharing your faith with sinners is different thing. You can sit with them, talk with them but you do not abide to their culture.

Think like this, when you constantly have fellowship in a crowd of people who of Faith, your faith will rise up because of the contagious influence, When you're in a crowd who are constantly negative all the time, it will effect your well being as well.

It doesn't mean you should be proud and distance yourself.

I hope this helps.



QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 6 2012, 12:10 PM)
1 Corinthian 7:

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her.13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace.16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
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This only apply for people who are already Married. Not for people who are yet to be married.

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 6 2012, 11:43 AM)
Hey I got a question here
1 Corinthians 5:11
"But now I write to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of [Christian] brother if he is known to be guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater [whose soul is devoted to any object that usurps the place of God], or is a person with a foul tongue [railing, abusing, reviling, slandering], or is a drunkard or a swindler or a robber. [No] you must not so much as eat with such a person."

So this chapter basically talks about paul telling the corinthian about sexual immorality. Then he goes saying the verse above.

But I thought we should eat with sinners but why is Paul saying otherwise ya ?

I know he's trying to tell corinthian not to talk or eat with another so called "Brother/Sister" who has commited adultery/incest
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imo the keyword is associate. the associate mean attached. christian used to be best friend among other christians (brother and sister). by associate to them, it would have some influence. in current churches that are religious, they would expel that christian off from church membership for the sake of other members after several refusal to change by the offender.

above all just my opinions.
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post Apr 6 2012, 12:52 PM

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hANd on the bible~!~~~~

Hand on the book which speaks of war~~
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post Apr 6 2012, 12:54 PM

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Day Devotion

Your existence means God approve you

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Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you


In Genesis 1,

The scripture explains God's creation of Heaven and Earth, Every Living creature and finally Man and woman.

God saw all that he had made, and the bible explicitly mentioned, "And God saw that it was good" every step of the way.

If God say It's good to him, It's means he approve it.

The meaning of approve, to speak or think favorably of.

That include you and I.


Dear Brother and Sisters,

If God approve you to be here today, it means that you have a great destiny in your Life with God.

What I'm saying, all the material providence, the blessings, the victory is already stored up just for you.

Go through the Bible and you'll see God equipping you with all powerful declaration verses that is meant to bring you up in Life.

If it isn't so, God would not say it. But Good news brothers/sisters. He approve you!


God Bless!


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 6 2012, 12:26 PM)


This only apply for people who are already Married. Not for people who are yet to be married.
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really? so far paul no expressly telling that it only refer to people who are yet to be married o. neither do paul imply that also. it would be controversial if u say that only refer to those "who are already married"

definitely there're pros and cons here, if spouse is not believer, chances it would become believer or in other hand, the believer would be influence and drift away from christianity.
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QUOTE(timetravelller @ Apr 6 2012, 12:55 PM)
really? so far paul no expressly telling that it only refer to people who are yet to be married o. neither do paul imply that also. it would be controversial if u say that only refer to  those "who are already married"

definitely there're pros and cons here, if spouse is not believer, chances it would become believer or in other hand, the believer would be influence and drift away from christianity.
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Read the scripture.

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1 Corinthian 7:12

To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife
That means you're already married. The word wife itself means already married otherwise the scripture could have use, woman to be given in marriage.

It didn't say,

if any brother is going to have a wife or given in marriage.

That is why there are 2 parts in the scripture that talks about,

2 Corinthians 6:14: Do not be unequally yoke with unbelievers and this verse.

One for before Marriage (2 Corinthians 6:14:) and One for after Marriage. (2 Corinthians 6:14)

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 6 2012, 01:00 PM)
Read the scripture.
That means you're already married.

It didn't say,

if any brother is going to have a wife or given in marriage.

That is why there are 2 parts in the scripture that talks about,

2 Corinthians 6:14: Do not be unequally yoke with unbelievers and this verse.

One for before Marriage (2 Corinthians 6:14:) and One for after Marriage. (2 Corinthians 6:14)
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but it didn't mean that the "brother" is newly converted? anyway no offending intention smile.gif enlighten me..

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