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pehkay
post Apr 6 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 03:45 PM)
I used to switch church..But many of them i went to,either has fighting,or pastor corrupting the money and so..
At the end i fed up with the church.
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Oh well ... you still go meetings?
armadasaxon
post Apr 6 2012, 03:51 PM

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No more lo..
I oso got pray win lottery la..
But u need to put in effort , then only he will help u.

U pray he make u rich,and then u help ppl better rite?
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post Apr 6 2012, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 03:37 PM)
U sure boh?

I went so many church, when im alone, the pastor sure notice there got a new lonely guy .. He will call me out and intro leh..

I nvr go to big church, as the bigger u r, u will lose the the closeness.

Small =  ez to control and do gathering and talk to each other
Big = too many things to do,where got time to notice small thing .
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i prefer gt member inside can guide me..

smal church of cos lo..

smal church many years means canot grow?
big church lose closeness..lose quality

felow bro n sis, wt ur say in this?


QUOTE(WintersuN @ Apr 6 2012, 03:40 PM)
wat u mean greedy? Im not greedy cos never strike lottery b4. I just want pray him let me strike lottery and b religiously buy the ticket every week. But he seem never care my needs sad.gif
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wintersun, i fuli understand ur feel..

ask God let me kena lotery..but God won do this kind thing.
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post Apr 6 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 03:51 PM)
No more lo..
I oso got pray win lottery la..
But u need to put in effort , then only he will help u.

U pray he make u rich,and then u help ppl better rite?
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i never pray say i help ppl better when rich.

I just help according to my able so logic if i more rich shud b help better la

I got put in effort every weeek but lottery but still no get sad.gif He is making me lose money to help ppl.

My lord my god why have u forsaken me~~ sad.gif
armadasaxon
post Apr 6 2012, 03:55 PM

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I think god grant my better than u win lottery leh.

i ask god send 1 rich man to let me build a team and go help poor ppl..he oso no give..where got give u leh..LOL
pehkay
post Apr 6 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 03:51 PM)
No more lo..
I oso got pray win lottery la..
But u need to put in effort , then only he will help u.

U pray he make u rich,and then u help ppl better rite?
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Seriously? biggrin.gif IMHO I don't think God will answer this kind of prayer .....

Also, won't the living of Person of Christ be the greatest help to ppl tongue.gif

Here is Peter's word at his best : `Silver and gold I do not possess.' ....


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post Apr 6 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Apr 6 2012, 03:53 PM)
i prefer gt member inside can guide me..

smal church of cos lo..

smal church many years means canot grow?
big church lose closeness..lose quality

felow bro n sis, wt ur say in this?
wintersun, i fuli understand ur feel..

ask God let me kena lotery..but God won do this kind thing.
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When all is silent god will listen.
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armadasaxon
post Apr 6 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Apr 6 2012, 03:56 PM)
Seriously? biggrin.gif IMHO I don't think God will answer this kind of prayer .....

Also, won't the living of Person of Christ be the greatest help to ppl tongue.gif

Here is Peter's word at his best : `Silver and gold I do not possess.' ....
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I support u..Thats y i say god ppl nvr rich..
Ask for this and i will give u..
He din say ask for more.

But he wan win lottery not for money..he juz wan to feel the awesomeness.
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post Apr 6 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 04:00 PM)
I support u..Thats y i say god ppl nvr rich..
Ask for this and i will give u..
He din say ask for more.

But he wan win lottery not for money..he juz wan to feel the awesomeness.
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u wrong liao by say god ppl never rich..

In fact christians damn rich bro!! Just look at the fuking church.. without governement support they can buy a whole damn building. The pastor, member most of them drive bmw and shit like dat doh.gif


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post Apr 6 2012, 04:28 PM

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but if christian not rich ppl wil say y ur god din bless u..

no money talk oso nobody wil listen to u.

so christian shud b rich..if not something is wrong..
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post Apr 6 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 04:00 PM)
I support u..Thats y i say god ppl nvr rich..
Ask for this and i will give u..
He din say ask for more.

But he wan win lottery not for money..he juz wan to feel the awesomeness.
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Why want to be rich so badly? its only temporary

why not help people instead , that'll be more awesome
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post Apr 6 2012, 04:37 PM

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in msia ppl can be helped 1 meh?..even the policeee cannot be trusted..good ppl always die as i know..lol..

go church say himself christian
go back say himself godlike?
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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 6 2012, 04:29 PM)
Why want to be rich so badly? its only temporary

why not help people instead , that'll be more awesome
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no money how to help ppl bro?of coz help yurself first rite.
armadasaxon
post Apr 6 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Apr 6 2012, 04:28 PM)
but if christian not rich ppl wil say y ur god din bless u..

no money talk oso nobody wil listen to u.

so christian shud b rich..if not something is wrong..
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Rich only call god bless?..Seriously wei..Rich but inside berdosa gila..

who say no money nobody listen?...thats y ppl in this country cannot be helped..all ppl think lidat..

u all go rich church, dats y got bmw and merc..u nvr c the poor churches only.
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post Apr 6 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 04:38 PM)
no money how to help ppl bro?of coz help yurself first rite.
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U how old bro?
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post Apr 6 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 6 2012, 04:38 PM)
no money how to help ppl bro?of coz help yurself first rite.
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people can be helped in many ways not only monetary means.. are you facing financial difficulty or problem with being contented?
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post Apr 6 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Apr 6 2012, 03:21 PM)
I guess I was trying to veer from this point that it is not a matter of how to deal with this brother, in which, I did predicted you will bring it upĀ   whistling.gif . Nobody was saying that we don't talk to that person. Only by the principle of Matthew, we just have to treat him as if he is an unbeliever, that's all, from the fellowship of the church. As much, that brother, in eternity, is already saved and is our brother in God's life and nature. And yes, we are all saved sinners. But it is more for the testimony of the golden lampstand.

After all, he was recovered in 2 Corinthians ... so some believers stayed in contact with him and recovered Him. He probably "woke up" after being excommunicated ... who's knows ... you cannot say that God has used this way.

Why do I get the feeling that your sentences on the church .. as if it is a physical building tongue.gif

Anyway, these are not central thing/focus ... we are too distracted by these outward things ....
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LoL, the irony is on me. I thought you meant the physical Church. Okay My Bad.

And yes God can make use of any situation to touch people's life.

But never the less, I thought you echoed the sentiment that Church should only be for Godly people and perpetual sinners who refuse to give up sin are not allowed in. This is a self righteous pride akin to the Pharisee which IMO is wrong.

When Paul said to expel the immoral brother, He meant to cast out and totally reject the sinner idea of sinful lifestyle. We don't associate with him/her in that matter. That is all.

And the idea of not to eat together or be seen together is taken in the sense of being seen in public one to one person basis. Because by that, some people may mistakenly though the other brother is heavily influence in the same manner as he.

But if he wants to eat or mingle with the a group of people, I see nothing wrong with that. Because the moment he/she tries to outspokenly talk about his sinful lifestyle, I'm sure somebody in the group will rebuke and bring him around.

There is strength in numbers of believers.




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post Apr 6 2012, 11:26 PM

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Read this news... shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21...hilippines.html
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post Apr 7 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(SummerSunshine @ Apr 6 2012, 11:26 PM)
This is the problem even Jesus did mention about

man creating their own rules.

No where did God say you should do this literally.

Jesus was the only one God accept on the cross.





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post Apr 7 2012, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Apr 6 2012, 03:54 PM)
i never pray say i help ppl better when rich.

I just help according to my able so logic if i more rich shud b help better la

I got put in effort every weeek but lottery but still no get sad.gif He is making me lose money to help ppl.

My lord my god why have u forsaken me~~ sad.gif
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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Apr 6 2012, 04:28 PM)
but if christian not rich ppl wil say y ur god din bless u..

no money talk oso nobody wil listen to u.

so christian shud b rich..if not something is wrong..
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Yes it is true that Jesus did come to give us life and give us abundantly. That would include material wealth.
Why people don't get this blessing yet is possibly because of few basic reasons.

1. They are not ready in the condition that they are. They will be destroyed by the love of money. This is character problem.
2. They still do not live according to Faith completely. You cannot believe for few moment then don't believe the next day. Inconsistent Faith.

But it's nothing difficult really. You want your prayers answered, just understand that the blood of Christ qualify you.

You are to live by Faith everyday.
Believe God will provide all your needs every day.
Believe you are save and is righteous in Christ by faith
Believe God Loves you daily.
Believe God can empower you to live away from Sin.

Do not fear just believe. Because everything that happens in your life starts when you get your mind right.

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