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unknown warrior
post Apr 3 2012, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 3 2012, 12:40 AM)
it'll be good to provide a list of cults.. I don't have it..
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http://www.watchman.org/index-of-cults-and-religions/


this is a complete list of cults and definition of religion.

The list contains everything, it doesn't mean everything inside there are cults.

As summarised from the link.

This Index contains brief definitions, descriptions or cross references on over 1,200 religious organizations and beliefs, as well as world religions (including Christianity) and related doctrines.

I don't know if there's a better list than watchman.


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post Apr 3 2012, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 3 2012, 12:44 AM)
Is illuminati real?
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organization is real but as to the conspiracy and hype attach to it, I don't really know, neither really care much about it.
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post Apr 3 2012, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 3 2012, 12:55 AM)
organization is real but as to the conspiracy and hype attach to it, I don't really know, neither really care much about it.
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Some say they worship the devil.
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post Apr 3 2012, 01:03 AM

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Central Christian Church (CCC) is a cult also
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post Apr 3 2012, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 3 2012, 12:44 AM)
Is illuminati real?
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yes, they sell their souls to the devil for wealth and fame. Hint hollywood. They pretty much own everything. Not many christians know about it as it isn't something very important. Most of the people i tell get too consumed by it and end up seeing illuminati everywhere they go. I'd rather focus on God then
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CCC is a cult???? 0.0
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post Apr 3 2012, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(thelion4ever @ Apr 3 2012, 01:03 AM)
Some say they worship the devil.
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Well no big deal, don't have to get afraid or hype about these organizations. I mean what the heck, there's even Satan's Church which is really a direct slap on the face (face palm.jpg)

What matters is that you know who you are in Christ. That's more important.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 3 2012, 01:11 AM
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post Apr 3 2012, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(fakeshadow @ Apr 3 2012, 01:07 AM)
CCC is a cult???? 0.0
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yeah. They are correct in all except one part.. If i remember correctly , they believe must baptise only considered christian.
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post Apr 3 2012, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(replymela @ Apr 3 2012, 01:13 AM)
yeah. They are correct in all except one part.. If i remember correctly , they believe must baptise only considered christian.
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Well they also claim they are the only true church in the world and salvation can only be found in their organization.

And they use manipulative controls on most of their discipleship, like pressure to evangelize and are forced to contribute a significant proportion of their income to the church.

Kinda extreme IMO.
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post Apr 3 2012, 02:05 AM

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This thread is awesome.
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post Apr 3 2012, 09:07 AM

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wow..last post at 2 am...haha...amazingly active alright.
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post Apr 3 2012, 09:21 AM

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Indeed ... I guess there are late night posters biggrin.gif
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I enjoyed this today:

Christ as the Cornerstone for God’s building (see Psalm 118). Many believers praise Christ as the Lamb of God, being filled with appreciation for what Christ has done for us on the cross for our redemption. But the Bible reveals time and time again that Christ is the stone for God’s building – He is at least nine kinds of stones for the building of God. It is so easy to enjoy Christ only as the Lamb of God, but He is also the Stone – rejected by the builders but set by God in the head of the corner! May we see the importance of Christ being the stone for God’s building!

The Bible reveals Christ in at least nine aspects as the stone, the rock, for God’s building work. Christ is the eternal rock (Isa. 26:4; Matt. 16:18), the foundation stone (Isa. 28:16; 1 Cor. 3:11), the living stone (1 Pet. 2:4), the cornerstone (v. 6; Acts 4:11; Eph. 2:20; Psa. 118:22; Isa. 28:16), the precious stone (v. 16; 1 Pet. 2:4, 6-7), the topstone (Zech. 4:7), the cleft rock (Exo. 17:6; 1 Cor. 10:4), the crushing stone (Dan. 2:34-35; Matt. 21:44b), and the stone of stumbling (Isa. 8:14; Rom. 9:33). Wow, what a Christ!

Do we experience Christ in our Christian life as the stone for God’s building in a positive way in all these aspects? What are we actually building in our life? We may have our project, our career, our family life, our business, etc – but does Christ fit in our project? Is Christ the foundation stone? Do we take Christ as the cornerstone supporting the whole building? What about the finish, the conclusion, the topstone? If our career is for God’s building, Christ will fit and He will become the cornerstone! But when we have “our own thing going on”, our own project, we may be like the Jewish builders, rejecting Christ as the stone.

In the ancient times the Jews used to build their dwellings with at least three main stones: the foundation stone (a large rock on which to put the building), the cornerstone (a strong support, equivalent to today’s columns), and the topstone (the roof, joining all the building together). We need to experience Christ as the foundation stone – especially in the times of troubles we are experiencing Christ as the foundation stone for the church. Christ is the only foundation which has been laid by God – there is no other foundation that man may lay! Christ is the rock on which we build, which can withstand the storm and the tide.

After we experience Christ as the foundation stone, we will gradually experience Christ as the cornerstone – the One who joins the building of God together. Who holds us together in the church, the building of God? It is not having the same doctrine or our preference – it is Christ as the cornerstone for God’s building! The walls may be solid, we may be constituted with the truth, but we need to be connected and joined by Christ as the cornerstone. All this is experienced and made real to us in the church life – outside of the church life, we cannot experience Christ as the stone for God’s building. Praise the Lord for the church life!


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post Apr 3 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Apr 3 2012, 09:56 AM)
I enjoyed this today:

Christ as the Cornerstone for God’s building (see Psalm 118). Many believers praise Christ as the Lamb of God, being filled with appreciation for what Christ has done for us on the cross for our redemption. But the Bible reveals time and time again that Christ is the stone for God’s building – He is at least nine kinds of stones for the building of God. It is so easy to enjoy Christ only as the Lamb of God, but He is also the Stone – rejected by the builders but set by God in the head of the corner! May we see the importance of Christ being the stone for God’s building!

The Bible reveals Christ in at least nine aspects as the stone, the rock, for God’s building work. Christ is the eternal rock (Isa. 26:4; Matt. 16:18), the foundation stone (Isa. 28:16; 1 Cor. 3:11), the living stone (1 Pet. 2:4), the cornerstone (v. 6; Acts 4:11; Eph. 2:20; Psa. 118:22; Isa. 28:16), the precious stone (v. 16; 1 Pet. 2:4, 6-7), the topstone (Zech. 4:7), the cleft rock (Exo. 17:6; 1 Cor. 10:4), the crushing stone (Dan. 2:34-35; Matt. 21:44b), and the stone of stumbling (Isa. 8:14; Rom. 9:33). Wow, what a Christ!

Do we experience Christ in our Christian life as the stone for God’s building in a positive way in all these aspects? What are we actually building in our life? We may have our project, our career, our family life, our business, etc – but does Christ fit in our project? Is Christ the foundation stone? Do we take Christ as the cornerstone supporting the whole building? What about the finish, the conclusion, the topstone? If our career is for God’s building, Christ will fit and He will become the cornerstone! But when we have “our own thing going on”, our own project, we may be like the Jewish builders, rejecting Christ as the stone.

In the ancient times the Jews used to build their dwellings with at least three main stones: the foundation stone (a large rock on which to put the building), the cornerstone (a strong support, equivalent to today’s columns), and the topstone (the roof, joining all the building together). We need to experience Christ as the foundation stone – especially in the times of troubles we are experiencing Christ as the foundation stone for the church. Christ is the only foundation which has been laid by God – there is no other foundation that man may lay! Christ is the rock on which we build, which can withstand the storm and the tide.

After we experience Christ as the foundation stone, we will gradually experience Christ as the cornerstone – the One who joins the building of God together. Who holds us together in the church, the building of God? It is not having the same doctrine or our preference – it is Christ as the cornerstone for God’s building! The walls may be solid, we may be constituted with the truth, but we need to be connected and joined by Christ as the cornerstone. All this is experienced and made real to us in the church life – outside of the church life, we cannot experience Christ as the stone for God’s building. Praise the Lord for the church life!
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Dear Friends,

The only way to let Christ be our cornerstone or foundation is to put our Christian Life into practice.
There's no other way.

When you do that as what Pehkay posted, then our lives will be strong and unshakable, even when troubles come.

*just like how wintersuN ask whether it's wrong for Christian to gamble.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 3 2012, 10:45 AM
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post Apr 3 2012, 06:57 PM

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regarding illuminati, i prefer not to bother. it's none of my business. im too bz counting my past,present n future blessings... rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 3 2012, 09:01 PM

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Is it true that if I am a guy, I cannot pray and intercede for a girl?

e.g I go to a female and lay hands on her to pray for her.
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post Apr 3 2012, 10:03 PM

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You don't have to lay hand on her when you pray. You can also pray privately for her. The father hears and rewards tongue.gif
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post Apr 4 2012, 12:14 AM

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Man is spiritually and morally bankrupt!

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Romans 3:23

for All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


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Ecclesiastes 7:20

There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins.


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1 John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.




God is basically saying everyone, literally mean every single human being on earth.

I look at my own life before knowing God.

I lied, I cheat, had murderous thoughts, watched pornography, full of pride, egoistic, really hated everybody, etc etc.

The list is long. If there are millions like me, the world would be a messed. Guess what? There are billions like me on planet earth. That is the real fact.

That's why the world is a big mess. That's is the problem with Sin.

The best part is, by Today's standard what is considered morally detestable decades ago is acceptable today.

People curse and swear as if it's nothing. People steal and cheat and say it's nothing. People sin in lust and promiscuity and says it's nothing. People mistreat and hurt others out of insecurity and thinks it's nothing.

What they don't realize is, it's nothing to them but it's something to others. Every act of sin has a cause and effect on people. It hurts people.

Hurts beget Hurts. Eye for an Eye. It's a chain effect. problem is, nobody knows how far the damage cycle last. I'll tell you, it spreads non stop. That is the truth.

Take for example, rude driver A drives carelessly to intimidate and mistreat other drivers B,C,D, etc. Those victims (B,C,D) of the bully in return, mistreat others out of disgruntled treatment (E,F,G, etc) and hence the 3rd wave of mistreated victim mistreat others. They (E,F,G,etc) go to office, emotionally disturbed, mistreat their co-workers (H,I,J) and the (H,I,J) evening come home from work mistreat their wives, kid, etc.

The list goes on and on. The pyramid effect is really wide spread and hard to be contained.

God is right. Man is spiritually and morally bankrupt . There's nothing to argue about this really.

There are people who says they're basically good and don't really believe that he/she fallen short in sin.
That's basically is self righteousness and it's a form of prideful sin.


What is really disturbing is, the bible says:

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John 3:19
This is the verdict: Light (Jesus) has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.


In the last days, Man is so corrupted and morally bankrupt, they actually love Sin rather than doing what is right.

I believe this moral decay is deeply rooted by the world's philosophy.

The believe system that are of this world basically ingrained everyone to look to self and be self-centred.

ME ME ME I I I.

Study all the religions of this world and all of them is basically teaching everyone to be self centred, self focus, self zen realization to self salvation/enlightenment, etc.

Self Effort is corrupt and stain with Sin.

How can spiritually and morally bankrupt Man alleviate themselves when they themselves are stained? You get the idea.

It's like this, if you killed someone, no matter how many good deeds you've done, you still did killed someone.

That is never going to be erased. Whatever good deeds you do, is not in the least remotely related to the murder you've done.

If your other good deeds are not even remotely related to the wrong you have done, how can your other good actions cancelled out your wrongs?

Answer is, it's never going to. You have to answer for each wrong you've done.

So if Today,

Anyone says that Man's own effort is good enough to bring him to his own salvation, to me that is like digging your own pit 10 miles deep and say you can climb out without a rope. It's a hypocritical statement.



But there is hope. Our Hope is in Jesus.

Why Jesus? Because the Man who knew no sin and is without Sin came to our world to be punished for our sins and iniquity so that we do not have to.

He is the perfect example of where to put our Hope in.

And He has done it, overcome all Man's imperfection, Flaws and sin. That is the best part.

To the point even death could not hold him and is raised from the grave.

The point is this, all the world's system of believe points to self effort and their model of hope is either dead, non existence or ever unsure.

Our model of hope Lives Today.

Hallelujah. Praise n Glory to God.


God Bless.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 4 2012, 12:14 AM
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post Apr 4 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Apr 3 2012, 09:01 PM)
Is it true that if I am a guy, I cannot pray and intercede for a girl?

e.g I go to a female and lay hands on her to pray for her.
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Nothing wrong IMO.
Just make sure you do it in public and lay your hand correctly on the head. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Apr 3 2012, 12:23 AM)
Everything is almost wrong with JW.

Their doctrine is not in line with the Bible.

They are the one who predicted the 2nd coming of Jesus on a certain date and it didn't happened.

My advise is don't go.

They are a new age cult.
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Thanks, won't be attending anyway I was just curious.

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