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 Nokia N900 V10 (Close to 200 owners), New CSSU Update 07/09/2011

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post Feb 11 2011, 11:10 PM

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sorry.. a bit off topic here

Is there a simple way to just restore 1 contact without having to jot all the details down and manually delete and add it back later?


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http://phonereport.info/source-nokia-n9-no...7-tested-on-it/

There is one part that states : Meego were highly unsatisfactory.. To me i agree.. Even when they present the phone in some conference, it was laggy on 1.5Ghz of processor
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QUOTE(gyianz @ Feb 11 2011, 11:11 PM)
http://phonereport.info/source-nokia-n9-no...7-tested-on-it/

There is one part that states : Meego were highly unsatisfactory.. To me i agree.. Even when they present the phone in some conference, it was laggy on 1.5Ghz of processor
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Crash all over?
Sounds like Jim Carreys bad joke.Even though the latest build of MeeGo (v1.1.80) for N900 don't have complete function,it doesn't crash a lot.I expect N9-01 or whatever the MeeGo device model number is to perform better.
I don't care what Elop say,I know that MeeGo engineers are very proud of their work & they will continue their work with MeeGo.

As Texrat & Stskeep pointed out,MeeGo is larger than Nokia.

What Elop said is this,since MeeGo already been delayed some times the 1st hardware design became obsolete.Nokia will release MeeGo device with updated device.
We might see the older batch of MeeGo targeted device aka N9-00 to be shipped with WP7 instead.Same thing could happened to the canceled Symbian device.

I can say this : In this year if you plan to buy a Nokia product you better buy MeeGo device over Symbian.Seems like MeeGo will have slightly better chance of continuous support over symbian device.

Perhaps you guys should not only read the articles pieced together by websites but watch the entire announcement & the presentation video.
The briefing & Q&A session covered quite a lot ground.

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guys..
can we browse others phone via Bluetooth?
i mean like android phone that can browse our folder when we connect our phone using bluetooth.
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QUOTE(vaizard @ Feb 11 2011, 11:52 PM)
guys..
can we browse others phone via Bluetooth?
i mean like android phone that can browse our folder when we connect our phone using bluetooth.
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I don't know about browsing but if you're looking to send files in N900 with explorer view,you can try petrovic.

"Elop is relying on Service Provider to help sell Symbian Phone"
Who in right mind will buy a certified death in waiting OS based phone?

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http://outerware.blogspot.com/2010/11/meeg...e-meego-11.html

Here is the short post i commented on about the phone
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 12:08 AM)
I don't know about browsing but if you're looking to send files in N900 with explorer view,you can try petrovic.

"Elop is relying on Service Provider to help sell Symbian Phone"
Who in right mind will buy a certified death in waiting OS based phone?
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its not what i mean..
actually this evenig my fren using SEx10 pair with my nokia n900 via bluetooth..
and wat amaze me is he can view my folder within his x10, and can directly download any file he wan..
i think thats cool..
huhu......
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Well Intel has said it is still committed to MeeGo, hopefully they will hire the many hundreds of staff that left Nokia yesterday.

Intel is definitely interested in the Smartphone market so we might see a phone from Intel or its partners. Maybe not so soon but in a year or two. MeeGo has a huge ecosystem considering it's not only a mobile OS.

Also we have to remember Intel wants to bring in x86 mobile CPUs and AMD also has an interest in MeeGo so its not all doom and gloom for MeeGo! smile.gif

http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2011/02/...l_and_meego.php

Although unlikely we might see an announcement by Intel in the coming Mobile Conference in Barcelona.
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Yeay.... good for us... I think Meego is much cooler OS compare to to 7tingkap
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Feb 12 2011, 10:14 AM)
Yeay.... good for us... I think Meego is much cooler OS compare to to 7tingkap
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It's not about cool factor.I think given due time & resource MeeGo's core functions & UX could be one of the best in market.
Ah well...Enough about Nokia's WP7 for me.1 day of sleepless night about this is enough.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 10:29 AM)
It's not about cool factor.I think given due time & resource MeeGo's core functions & UX could be one of the best in market.
Ah well...Enough about Nokia's WP7 for me.1 day of sleepless night about this is enough.
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This is really bad..... really bad.... mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
Why Win7 of all..... I guess we already knew it was coming when Elop took over....
WebOS looks great but the device design is a big turn off; What device to go for next? HP needs a good device designer...


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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 12 2011, 10:46 AM)
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This is really bad..... really bad....   mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
Why Win7 of all..... I guess we already knew it was coming when Elop took over....
WebOS looks great but the device design is a big turn off; What device to go for next? HP needs a good device designer...
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Nokia just made their future out of their hand.No OS under their control(Symbian phased out,MeeGo development reduced to almost nothing).If Microsoft stalled with WP7 Nokia might have to pour high amount of resource to take over the OS to develop it.Mr Elop might say Telco Operator might like the Nokia + Microsoft partnership but it's ultimately the end users who will decide their choice of device.Looking at the reception from regular users & the stock market,it's looking bad.Also Elop just leveraged Nokia's most prized stuff,the patents.With this deal Microsoft could probably make other OEM to access these pattens for FREE.After years of protracting the pattens you leveraged it to a half @$$ed OS?Nokia Maps will be used by Microsoft for free too.

I do think somehow Nokia will sell quite a number of WP7 device but I sure the figure will fell a lot shorter than what Nokia expected.

I think after few years Microsoft can attempt to buy Nokia for lower price.Already market share dropped more than 14% yesterday.

Almost all the Maemo/MeeGo leaders have resigned from Nokia.It'll be very hard to make progress with a open source OS in Nokia after this.

If Nokia want a fighting chance,they better ask Microsoft to buck up & ingrate some of the regular functions in WP7.
No copy paste,bluetooth file transfer,mass storage support,etc2.Even symbian can do all these.

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Yeah just to add on.. more than thousands of employees walked off Nokia..
And anyone here major in computing or programming?
Maybe we could homebrew our own Meego using the existing source code..
I will be very free after june...
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QUOTE(gyianz @ Feb 12 2011, 11:38 AM)
Yeah just to add on.. more than thousands of employees walked off Nokia..
And anyone here major in computing or programming?
Maybe we could homebrew our own Meego using the existing source code..
I will be very free after june...
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MeeGo development including Handset UX will continue.This much has been confirmed by people who are leading the project.
I expect 1.2 to be available for N900 in due time.

Anyway,Google already start offering job at Symbian,MeeGo or any other Nokia engineers brows.gif
Smart move Google.Strike it when your opponent is distracted.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 12:47 PM)
MeeGo development including Handset UX will continue.This much has been confirmed by people who are leading the project.
I expect 1.2 to be available for N900 in due time.

Anyway,Google already start offering job at Symbian,MeeGo or any other Nokia engineers brows.gif
Smart move Google.Strike it when your opponent is distracted.
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Maybe we would see a Meego device with Google engraved behind?
Like what happened to Nexus one..
Anyways sifu know where to change the quicklaunch menu?
for example the /etc/systemui/systemui.xml is where u change the menu for power button
Then where is the file to edit to change the menu in the menu where you connect to internet and stuffs
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QUOTE(gyianz @ Feb 12 2011, 12:20 PM)
hmm.gif
Maybe we would see a Meego device with Google engraved behind?
Like what happened to Nexus one..
Anyways sifu know where to change the quicklaunch menu?
for example the /etc/systemui/systemui.xml is where u change the menu for power button
Then where is the file to edit to change the menu in the menu where you connect to internet and stuffs
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Don't remember that...I only messed with the icons file there.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 11:16 AM)
Nokia just made their future out of their hand.No OS under their control(Symbian phased out,MeeGo development reduced to almost nothing).If Microsoft stalled with WP7 Nokia might have to pour high amount of resource to take over the OS to develop it.Mr Elop might say Telco Operator might like the Nokia + Microsoft partnership but it's ultimately the end users who will decide their choice of device.Looking at the reception from regular users & the stock market,it's looking bad.Also Elop just leveraged Nokia's most prized stuff,the patents.With this deal Microsoft could probably make other OEM to access these pattens for FREE.After years of protracting the pattens you leveraged it to a half @$$ed OS?Nokia Maps will be used by Microsoft for free too.

I do think somehow Nokia will sell quite a number of WP7 device but I sure the figure will fell a lot shorter than what Nokia expected.

I think after few years Microsoft can attempt to buy Nokia for lower price.Already market share dropped more than 14% yesterday.

Almost all the Maemo/MeeGo leaders have resigned from Nokia.It'll be very hard to make progress with a open source OS in Nokia after this.

If Nokia want a fighting chance,they better ask Microsoft to buck up & ingrate some of the regular functions in WP7.
No copy paste,bluetooth file transfer,mass storage support,etc2.Even symbian can do all these.
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Sadly, no interest in WP7 UI design or overall OS design. If need to jump ship, better go Android plus the upcoming devices will have crazy specs. Would prefer WebOS but the device outlook kills it, BUT THEN, if the choice is between WP7 device and WebOS device, I might still go for WebOS device...... wait a minute, bah, better stick to N900. tongue.gif

If only there is a better spec device able to support Maemo, and the full source code release and maintain by somebody, improves it, adds more functionality/features. It'll be something special, but then, that's too far fetch.

Not to say I dislike MS, but if they were to make a smartphone device, try making a real smartphone with real OS; Previously, I remember there is a smartphone by some unknown company planning to launch a smartphone running full Windows XP.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 12 2011, 04:58 PM)
Sadly, no interest in WP7 UI design or overall OS design. If need to jump ship, better go Android plus the upcoming devices will have crazy specs. Would prefer WebOS but the device outlook kills it, BUT THEN, if the choice is between WP7 device and WebOS device, I might still go for WebOS device...... wait a minute, bah, better stick to N900.  tongue.gif

If only there is a better spec device able to support Maemo, and the full source code release and maintain by somebody, improves it, adds more functionality/features. It'll be something special, but then, that's too far fetch.

Not to say I dislike MS, but if they were to make a smartphone device, try making a real smartphone with real OS; Previously, I remember there is a smartphone by some unknown company planning to launch a smartphone running full Windows XP.
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Eiraku love both the webOS and the device.Seems like you & me like the OS but not the device laugh.gif

Full source code release is out of question according to 1 of Nokia engineer.
Man...If only the full source code is released,I say screw you Nokia & will stick will my N900 for long2 time.There are endless things we'll able to change.Perhaps Maemo 5 can be upgraded to Maemo 6 functions.
CSSU already a big step...

Yeah,the WP7 UI looks nice with it's fancy graphics.But in term of functionality even Symbian is better.
Nokia upgrading OS? I say it's more like degrading.

This is why I dislike business oriented people to take over technology company.You have a almost complete OS in making but went ahead & leverage the entire company with another company that will definitely be more than happy to take over the Nokia.Don't give "We've low confident that MeeGo ecosystem will succeed fast enough" crap.You have 2 super large company backing the OS.Just pour some extra money to accelerate the OS development & promotion matter.
It's increasingly likely that Microsoft will attempt to take over Nokia in few years time.

Why isn't there other nerds like Larry Page & Sergey Brin to take over Nokia...At least would have taken a much better calculated risk.

I'll be looking for a Android device with physical QWERTY keyboard at MWC.If there is something I like then I'll just go ahead to buy it.
I think I had enough time being Nokia's genuine pig.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Feb 12 2011, 05:15 PM
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is Elop trying to save Nokia or saving his former employers mobile OS division ?


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:08 pmAnd going from Symbian to another mobile OS that does not even have copy&paste function is plain stupid.

Elop has successfully executed his plan, to bring Nokia down. and kill off Symbian in the process.

One less competition for Windows Phone 7.

Microsoft makes usable OS for the X86 and X64 PC platform.

Windows Mobile was a failure back in the days, is still a failure now.

The thing is some big heads in Nokia read reports about Symbian this and Symbian that and all those reports are coming from the States.

The figures in the reports only represent one country and not the entire planet.

When will people learn to see the fake blown up numbers presented by Apple.

I believe there are still tons of supporters of Symbian in Asia & Europe.


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:14 pm
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Feb 12 2011, 04:58 PM)
Sadly, no interest in WP7 UI design or overall OS design. If need to jump ship, better go Android plus the upcoming devices will have crazy specs. Would prefer WebOS but the device outlook kills it, BUT THEN, if the choice is between WP7 device and WebOS device, I might still go for WebOS device...... wait a minute, bah, better stick to N900.  tongue.gif

If only there is a better spec device able to support Maemo, and the full source code release and maintain by somebody, improves it, adds more functionality/features. It'll be something special, but then, that's too far fetch.

Not to say I dislike MS, but if they were to make a smartphone device, try making a real smartphone with real OS; Previously, I remember there is a smartphone by some unknown company planning to launch a smartphone running full Windows XP.
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Seriously, what Maemo needs is just a modern qwerty device with dual core ARM processor, some decent graphics acceleration, more RAM bigger screen with capacitive touch maybe.

on the software side, some latest fixes, more bug fixing, some parts ported over from meego, newer version of microB, flash 10.1

who needs that Windows Phone 7 crap.

i have used that rubbish before - in the form of Windows Mobile 6.5 or some crap like that.

1) multitasking ? what ?

2) performance hog

3) battery life is like shit

4) no groundbreaking apps

5) i think iOS has somewhat better interface

6) even better, no copy paste

7) web browser on that thing sucks


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:25 pm
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Feb 12 2011, 11:16 AM)
Nokia just made their future out of their hand.No OS under their control(Symbian phased out,MeeGo development reduced to almost nothing).If Microsoft stalled with WP7 Nokia might have to pour high amount of resource to take over the OS to develop it.Mr Elop might say Telco Operator might like the Nokia + Microsoft partnership but it's ultimately the end users who will decide their choice of device.Looking at the reception from regular users & the stock market,it's looking bad.Also Elop just leveraged Nokia's most prized stuff,the patents.With this deal Microsoft could probably make other OEM to access these pattens for FREE.After years of protracting the pattens you leveraged it to a half @$$ed OS?Nokia Maps will be used by Microsoft for free too.

I do think somehow Nokia will sell quite a number of WP7 device but I sure the figure will fell a lot shorter than what Nokia expected.

I think after few years Microsoft can attempt to buy Nokia for lower price.Already market share dropped more than 14% yesterday.

Almost all the Maemo/MeeGo leaders have resigned from Nokia.It'll be very hard to make progress with a open source OS in Nokia after this.

If Nokia want a fighting chance,they better ask Microsoft to buck up & ingrate some of the regular functions in WP7.
No copy paste,bluetooth file transfer,mass storage support,etc2.Even symbian can do all these.
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that line above reminds me of another OS from a fruit company.

it looks like the human civilization is crumbling. instead of upgrading we are downgrading.


Added on February 12, 2011, 9:32 pmi remember those day, migrating from pocket pc > windows mobile > symbian

it was like coming out of the stone age, now back to stone age.


Added on February 12, 2011, 10:50 pmhttp://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/02/first-analysis-of-nokia-microsoft-alliance-wow-this-is-good-for-microsoft.html

a good observation

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All this moves are meant to make money by buying their products.. which i would say fail

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